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Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:25 PM Apr 2016

Dear Hillary Clinton Supporters--

in your heart of hearts, do you really love everything she stands for, more than what Bernie Sanders stands for?

Or are you supporting her out of political calculation, i.e. that she is "more electable"?

I'm not judging either way, I'm just curious.

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Dear Hillary Clinton Supporters-- (Original Post) Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author DesertFlower Apr 2016 #1
Same excuse we were given for voting for her instead of Obama Kelvin Mace Apr 2016 #2
Clinton. Hands down. This is a considered opinion, not some fan worship. Buzz Clik Apr 2016 #3
I have been a democrat all my adult life. So has she samrock Apr 2016 #4
i agree. i deleted my first comment DesertFlower Apr 2016 #6
This is how I feel, as well. Being from Arkansas, I have Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #14
I don't love *everything* anyone stands for radical noodle Apr 2016 #5
What are her ideas? Armstead Apr 2016 #7
Are you saying you don't know? radical noodle Apr 2016 #8
I am really just wondering which of them appeal to you... Armstead Apr 2016 #9
Okay radical noodle Apr 2016 #15
great answer. DesertFlower Apr 2016 #12
YES. fun n serious Apr 2016 #10
Bernie needs to release his tax returns... timlot Apr 2016 #11
Bernie MIGHT have an issue with his taxes. Maedhros Apr 2016 #21
Bernie Has Not Been Vetted Stallion Apr 2016 #24
You're right, Bernie has not been vetted. Arkansas Granny Apr 2016 #26
Isn't This What You Do in a Voting Booth? Stallion Apr 2016 #13
Hillary all the way because she is a TRUE JanetLovesObama Apr 2016 #16
What's so special about the Democratic Party and its wishes? Maedhros Apr 2016 #22
Why do you do that? When you ask them quesitons, you have to read the nonsense answers pdsimdars Apr 2016 #17
Haha.... quickesst Apr 2016 #20
I was drunk Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #32
I'm mature enough NOT to have to "love" everything Clinton is doing, I either like it or don't my... uponit7771 Apr 2016 #18
Bernie has made promises that he cannot deliver DrDan Apr 2016 #19
I think Bernie, unintentionally, would ... JoePhilly Apr 2016 #23
I admire Sec Clinton mcar Apr 2016 #25
I just like Hillary littlebit Apr 2016 #27
I don't "love" any politician I support... brooklynite Apr 2016 #28
More electable. More importantly, while Sanders is yelling at sky, she's Hoyt Apr 2016 #29
I must have missed the meeting where you were elected to lead the Vote Police. nt IamMab Apr 2016 #30
eh? I was just asking a question. I thought that's what discussion boards were for Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #33
Can we dispense with these "when did she stop hitting Bill" OP's upaloopa Apr 2016 #31
weird response... Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #34
For the zillionth time, empty/hollow promises aren't enough for me. ecstatic Apr 2016 #35
Senator Jeff Merkley endorsed him today Fast Walker 52 Apr 2016 #36

Response to Fast Walker 52 (Original post)

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
2. Same excuse we were given for voting for her instead of Obama
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:31 PM
Apr 2016

Personally, anyone who counts Henry Kissinger as a "friend" and "advisor" isn't qualified to for any job with people's lives at stake.

samrock

(590 posts)
4. I have been a democrat all my adult life. So has she
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:35 PM
Apr 2016

Bernie just joined within the past year to run. She was connections to democratic members of the house/senate she can use to build on to get bills passed. I will gladly vote for either in the GE, but for now I am supporting Hillary

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
6. i agree. i deleted my first comment
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:44 PM
Apr 2016

because i didn't want to get into a pissing contest with bernie supporters and that's where it was going.

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
14. This is how I feel, as well. Being from Arkansas, I have
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

been aware of Hillary's accomplishments since the 80's. She has always been a champion of human rights, especially those of women and children. Her experience as SOS has allowed her to develop relationships with world leaders that will be invaluable when she is elected.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
5. I don't love *everything* anyone stands for
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:38 PM
Apr 2016

But I like her ideas much better than Sanders' and I have liked and admired her work since Bill ran for president the first time. I have followed the things she's done for a very long time. Yes, I do know where she stands on issues and where Sanders stands on issues. I like her approach better.

This is an honest response to what I believe is an honest question and I have no desire to get in a pissing contest with Sanders supporters over it.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
9. I am really just wondering which of them appeal to you...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:53 PM
Apr 2016

I don't mean micro proposals of the kind that all candidates offer.

I mean ideas to move America in a better direction on a fundamental level.

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
15. Okay
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:14 PM
Apr 2016

While I have some general "overall best for the country" issues I also have a couple of issues that are very important to me that are smaller issues.

I vote for women's issues, racial justice issues and pre-K and K-12 education.

Creating a better economy and more good jobs by improving our infrastructure and actively encouraging manufacturing. I like the idea of the national infrastructure bank.

We have to help small communities that are devastated by job loss (coal, in particular) with training and new jobs.

Better access to capital for minorities and small communities and others who are often left behind.

More pre-K programs, especially for children whose parents work and for those at risk (and there are so many at risk right now). The best investment we can make is in the youngest children when they are most affected by a good learning environment.

Leveling the playing field of the schools. There should not be poor schools and wealthy schools. Teachers should be supported and valued. Children with disabilities should get more help, not just tested to the point where they cry. Teachers should have a say in what happens in their schools and classrooms.

Getting rid of the most odious voter ID laws and implementing automatic voter registration.

Defending a woman's right to choose and supporting Planned Parenthood.

Sorry this took so long, as I'm doing something else at the same time.








 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
10. YES.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:54 PM
Apr 2016

Best and most qualified EVER. She has been the MOST transparent. All taxes disclosed.. Taxes are important Hillary released back to 92. I hate LIARS and people who HIDE truths about themselves. Everything about Hillary is out and then some.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
11. Bernie needs to release his tax returns...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 07:58 PM
Apr 2016

Somethings fishy is going on. Sanders supporters are working overtime on DU to excuse it, but he and Jane are hiding something. Going to be a sad day when they find out the emperor has no cloths.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
21. Bernie MIGHT have an issue with his taxes.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:38 PM
Apr 2016

But Hillary has demonstrated time and again how corrupt she is.

Interesting where your concern lies.

/ignore list.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
24. Bernie Has Not Been Vetted
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:47 PM
Apr 2016

its funny but Clinton is the ONLY transparent candidate releasing all of the Clinton Income tax returns (with Schedules) since 1992-NOBODY ELSE HAS-yet she's allegedly the one hiding something. After reading the outrageously uninformed comments from Sanders supporters about common business/estate concepts like "flow through" corps, "pour over" trusts" and private foundations its no wonder why no one wants to release any tax returns. All it does is invite the stupid comments of the uninformed usually based on articles coming from right-wing websites like the Washington Examiner or Washington Free Beacon. None of these issues raise an eyebrow from informed practitioners in these areas

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
26. You're right, Bernie has not been vetted.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:57 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know if he could hold up to the kind of scrutiny that the rw has focused on Hillary for the last 20+ years.

Stallion

(6,476 posts)
13. Isn't This What You Do in a Voting Booth?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:05 PM
Apr 2016

where she has millions more votes and thrashing Sanders among registered Democrats

 

JanetLovesObama

(548 posts)
16. Hillary all the way because she is a TRUE
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:17 PM
Apr 2016

Democrat. Sanders is not a Democrat and neither are most of his supporters. He cannot be trusted to fulfill the wishes of the Democratic Party.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
22. What's so special about the Democratic Party and its wishes?
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:40 PM
Apr 2016

Especially when it has shown that it wishes to side with Wall Street and the MIC.

You can go to the ignore list with the other "Party before principle" posters.

/bye.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
17. Why do you do that? When you ask them quesitons, you have to read the nonsense answers
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:19 PM
Apr 2016

they come up with. It hurts the rational mind. Ouch!

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
20. Haha....
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

B*******. You know as well as I do that every one of those answers were logical, common sense statements from rational people. I think you're pissed off because they were.

uponit7771

(90,347 posts)
18. I'm mature enough NOT to have to "love" everything Clinton is doing, I either like it or don't my...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:20 PM
Apr 2016

... passion towards my vote is on top of a good decision not the start of one.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
23. I think Bernie, unintentionally, would ...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:44 PM
Apr 2016

... get very little done.

His supporters demand no compromises be made.

They, like the GOP, prefer the government do nothing if it won't do exactly what they want.

The founders of this country set up a form of government which pretty much forces compromises in which almost no one gets everything they want.

And the GOP would happily allow Bernie to do nothing. And his angriest supporters here would cheer him for doing nothing too.

mcar

(42,334 posts)
25. I admire Sec Clinton
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 08:56 PM
Apr 2016

For her many accomplishments and her intelligence and warmth.

I support her candidacy. I do not agree with everything she has said and done because I am a grown up and I know no one is perfect.

BTW, I feel the same way about President Obama. Love him, admire him, think he's the best president in my lifetime. Haven't agreed with everything he's done.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
29. More electable. More importantly, while Sanders is yelling at sky, she's
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:07 PM
Apr 2016

more likely to get things done.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
31. Can we dispense with these "when did she stop hitting Bill" OP's
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 09:17 PM
Apr 2016

Everyday one of these gotcha OP's.

Look you are losing so we don't want to pay your games.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
34. weird response...
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:41 PM
Apr 2016

I just wanted to know since sometimes I get the impression that people support Hillary more out of expediency

ecstatic

(32,710 posts)
35. For the zillionth time, empty/hollow promises aren't enough for me.
Wed Apr 13, 2016, 10:49 PM
Apr 2016

I look at Bernie and see a lifelong politician who hasn't accomplished anything other than great YouTube soundbytes.

And now at nearly 80 years old, he wants to try to lead the nation...but when asked questions, he's testy and clearly clueless on how to implement his platform.

Not a single one of his colleagues has endorsed him.

So why on earth should I support him?

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