2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumGravis Marketing: IOWA Obama +4 (Obama 50, Romney 46)
Friday, October 26, 2012
President Obama currently leads Governor Romney by 4 percentage points in Iowa, 50 to 46 percent.
Governor Romney leads President Obama with independent voters by a margin of 48 to 36 percent. Both candidates received more than 90 percent support from members of their own party.
There is a wide gender gap in this survey. Romney leads by 18 percent among men while President Obama leads by 23 percent with women.
Gravis Marketing conducted an automated survey of 517 likely voters in Iowa October 24, 2012. The margin of error for the survey is +/-4.3% and higher for subgroups.
http://www.gravispolls.com/2012/10/iowa-public-opinion-poll-shows-obama.html
scheming daemons
(25,487 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Jennicut
(25,415 posts)Gravis thinks other pollsters will have Obama up in Iowa and they picked a number. 4 sounded good to them I guess. At least it will bump Obama's average up in IA in RCP. The right wingers that frequent the site will see Obama with 2.3% average lead there and then hopefully go cry.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)I mean the result is fine, but I still don't trust them.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021579317
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)aaaaaa5a
(4,667 posts)The path to 270
Option #1-Ohio+Wisconsin+Iowa
Option #2-Ohio+Wisconsin+Nevada
Obama leads in all 4.
abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)PA, MI, WI, NV, NH, IA and CO . . . .
And that makes OH (and VA and FL and NC) irrelevant.
Arkana
(24,347 posts)fugop
(1,828 posts)Seems to me this fly-by-night huckster must be getting nervous about being outed as a fraud. His last couple polls seems much better for Obama. He still sucks, but since people like Nate are using him in their averages, I'll take it.
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)The pollsters don't want to look biased so they need to be as accurate as possible on election day. This poll, and others, may be an early sign of pollsters not wanting to show their agenda.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)Gravis is trying to keep it with their margin of error, which is huge.
thrown all the Republican Pollsters out whether they are positive or not. They have no credibility to me now. I'm looking at all the Democratic and Independent Pollsters. I also don't trust likely voters models either. I think people are going to vote.
I also think this country is divided. I don't believe swing voters at all. I believe voters reflects the values of the people they vote for. I think they are all interest groups. Some issues are just more important than others to different groups. You can make Polls get the results that you want. Pollsters are bias too.
reflection
(6,286 posts)If he is posting pro-Obama numbers now, it's only to take the heat off. I don't want to come across as a scold, but please don't post any Gravis numbers here. You could bust out some old D&D multi-sided dice and roll them all at once to come up with an equally valid number.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)So his model will treat that poll at more like Obama +7.
TexasCPA
(527 posts)Con artist trying to win our trust.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)with nothing about 'early voting' stats, etc. This is why I don't buy Gravis. I can't believe that Romney is up by 8 and other polls don't show that, too. But that will be the poll the media will harp about.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)They'll put out a horseshit poll, and then quickly try to cover their ass with another poll.