2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumElection year sexism against Hillary Clinton brought me closer to my mother
Election year sexism against Hillary Clinton brought me closer to my motherLaura Bogart Monday 18 April 2016 12.07 EDT
For years I thought of my mother as a pathetic figure who had turned her back on feminism until I saw the scorn heaped upon Clinton and realized my mom was a victim of her time
But I wasnt ready for the Republican frontrunner to crack wise about blood coming out of a woman reporters orifices, and gain in popularity. And I certainly wasnt ready to see lefties I respected arguing that anyone whod served as a senator for eight years, and as secretary of state for four years, could somehow be unqualified to be president.
Seeing journalists chide Clinton for shouting too much when her male opponents on both sides would give Foghorn Leghorn a run for his money makes me understand why someone like my mother might be too afraid to step out of the kitchen, and into a bolder life.
This understanding crystallized during the debates: fingers pointed, repeatedly, toward Clintons face; the curt way shes called the secretary; the booing and the constant talking over her and the fact that she has to stand there, calmly, and take it, lest she be too shrill makes me ache with rage.
I remember the boss who told me to be more positive (AKA smile more) during a job performance review (the rest of my work exceeded standards) and the ex-boyfriend who said, in a not-kind way, that I want too much in life. I felt a sudden, inchoate longing for my mother.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/apr/18/hillary-clinton-sexism-brought-me-closer-to-my-mother
boston bean
(36,221 posts)athena
(4,187 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)People should realize the garbage Hillary has to endure to run for President.
After all, its the ultimate boy's club eh?
And the way our own mothers and daughters are treated as well.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)mcar
(42,307 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)farleftlib
(2,125 posts)OMG this is priceless. Especially this:
the curt way shes called the secretary; the booing and the constant talking over her and the fact that she has to stand there, calmly, and take it, lest she be too shrill makes me ache with rage.
The booing comes when she takes cheap shots and lies, which she does quite a bit. And her being
talked over is a hoot. She talks and talk and talks for quite a long time after she's been told
her time is up and she has to turn the floor over to Sanders. She just keeps going and going...
Poor Hill. She's so put upon. Wait till Trump starts in on her.
So which is it? Is she tough? Or is she a shrinking violet being picked on by the meanie mens?
The story changes from day to day.
gabeana
(3,166 posts)play the sexist card
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)Are you saying Hillary Clinton doesn't experiance sexism? Or that she should be quiet about it when she does?
gabeana
(3,166 posts)That example used was ridicules, waving the finger that is sexist,
that is the card the Hill crowd plays, at least it is consistent,
Has she faced sexism of course she has, but come on from Bernie, no I don't think so
gabeana
(3,166 posts)pro Hillary article,to justify criticism of Hillary as sexist, saying lefty's are sexist because Bernie mannerism of waving his fingers
the sexism canard is not going to end when she is President (yes I think she will win) from this group any valid criticism will regarded as sexism
remember when Bill lied to the nation, waved his finger I did not have sexual relations with that women damn the sexist, oh wait many Clinton supporters, among them Hillary were bashing Monica
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)It's very Clintonesque to be on both sides of every issue. Whatever serves their
needs that day they'll do and the next day do the exact opposite and say they
were never on the other side. Par for the course.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)The Onion?
Maru Kitteh
(28,340 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)It's unfortunately the way we do politics.
But whatever the case men are subjected to it too.
gabeana
(3,166 posts)n Oct. 23, Hillary Clinton opened a new front against Sen. Bernie Sanders: She framed him as a sexist. Clinton took a phrase Sanders had routinely used in talking about gun violencethat shouting wouldnt solve the problemand suggested that he had aimed it at her because when women talk, some people think were shouting.
Several journalists called out Clinton for this smear. But she refuses to withdraw it. Instead, her campaign officials and supporters have escalated the attack. And now, Clinton is adding a new dimension to the controversy
The next day, Clinton sat down for an interview in New Hampshire. Josh McElveen of WMUR asked her about Sanders: Do you believe that hes attacking you based solely on your gender? Clinton replied: When I heard him say that people should stop shouting about guns, I didnt think I was shouting. I thought I was making a very strong case. And Im not going to be silenced. McElveen followed up: But as far as the implication that Bernie Sanders is sexistyou wouldnt go that far? Clinton shrugged, smiled, and sidestepped the question. I said what I had to say about it, she concluded.
That day, Bloomberg Politics published an article in which Sanders campaign manager, Jeff Weaver, joked that Clinton would make a great vice president for Sanders. Weaver offered to interview her for the job. As Jonathan Chait has pointed out, thats a standard put-down among candidates: Clinton said the same thing about Barack Obama in 2008. But when Weaver tried it on Clinton, her supporters erupted. Christine Quinn, a Clinton backer, accused the Sanders campaign of sexism. Quinn pointed at Sanders himself: Im stunned that a man like Bernie Sanders, who has clearly committed his life to making the country a better place, would get sucked into this very dangerous rhetoric, which perpetuates sexist and misogynistic stereotypes.
So you see why many of us can't take some of you Hillary supporters seriously on this issue it is part of her campaign stratrgy