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Pledged delegate ESTIMATE based on tonight's results: (Original Post) George II Apr 2016 OP
293, not 393. 52 not 62. onenote Apr 2016 #1
Based upon the math... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #2
Because the super delegates are going to overturn the will of the voters? mythology Apr 2016 #4
Didn't post that.... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #13
The SDs, as I've been saying for months, won't be relevant this year. Garrett78 Apr 2016 #5
fun but predictable jcgoldie Apr 2016 #7
math... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #12
That is correct. TheDormouse Apr 2016 #15
right jcgoldie Apr 2016 #19
But he's been using things like this as a fundraiser tool. George II Apr 2016 #20
Clinton has about 55% of the selected delegates already, you don't think she'll get 35% of the rest? George II Apr 2016 #10
math.... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #11
So what? leftynyc Apr 2016 #16
'so what?'... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #22
Yawn leftynyc Apr 2016 #23
LOL... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #24
Why? Stuckinthebush Apr 2016 #14
again... HumanityExperiment Apr 2016 #21
Are you not counting Super Delegates in states that haven't voted? Renew Deal Apr 2016 #3
Not counting superdelegates at all. George II Apr 2016 #6
Bernie would need 64.5% of remaining delegates to reach 2,026z morningfog Apr 2016 #8
Why are the NY delegates included here, when they have not yet been awarded due to fraud ViseGrip Apr 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author nolawarlock Apr 2016 #17
So basically it works like this .... nolawarlock Apr 2016 #18
 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
2. Based upon the math...
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:19 PM
Apr 2016

and following trends, HRC won't reach the needed total of delegates to win outright before the convention...

comes down to SDs at convention... this should be fun to watch

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
4. Because the super delegates are going to overturn the will of the voters?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:22 PM
Apr 2016

I could have sworn Sanders supporters were adamantly against that when they thought Sanders would win the pledged delegates.

There is a 0% chance that the super delegates are going to overturn the will of the voters.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
13. Didn't post that....
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:09 AM
Apr 2016

HRC won't reach the required delegate total to earn nomination before the convention, again MATH... SDs don't mean squat until the convention when they actually vote until then the don't matter... so the path to the convention for Bernie is WIDE open and you know this too.... power at the convention is yet to play outso let's see which platform planks get set in shall we?

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
5. The SDs, as I've been saying for months, won't be relevant this year.
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:24 PM
Apr 2016

If one candidate has won something like 2175 pledged delegates and the other has won something like 1875 pledged delegates, the super delegation is a mere formality.

jcgoldie

(11,639 posts)
7. fun but predictable
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:26 PM
Apr 2016

No suspense here. Convention being "contested" after Sanders gets blown out in the voting is a dumbass argument.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
12. math...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:05 AM
Apr 2016

HRC won't have enough delegates based upon proportional outome trends so far to reach the required total before the convention

George II

(67,782 posts)
10. Clinton has about 55% of the selected delegates already, you don't think she'll get 35% of the rest?
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:29 PM
Apr 2016

I don't know what trends you're following, but Sanders will have to win EVERY remaining primary by an AVERAGE of 30%. Up until now he's only won one by that much, his home state of Vermont.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
11. math....
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:02 AM
Apr 2016

HRC won't have enough delegates before convention based upon proportional outcome trends and you KNOW this

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
16. So what?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 05:11 AM
Apr 2016

Unless you're asking the superdelegates to go against the majority of Democratic voters and force a loser candidate on us, I have no idea what your repetitive "she wont win with just pledged" means. Wasn't it the Bernie supporters who were whining incessantly about the superdelegates early on - using the idiotic assumption they would overturn the majority candidate to rob Bernie of the nomination? Why, yes, it was.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
22. 'so what?'...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:57 AM
Apr 2016

issues, forcing DEM party to maintain focus and discussion on the DEM platform and planks that the candidate will need to talk about throughout the GE

HRC and her supporters do NOT want to continue that discussion hence the continued whining about Bernie to 'stop' or 'suspend'...

SDs and the reason they are even in existence isn't up for debate, they were created to prevent candidates like Bernie from succeeding should the primary be close, it gives the establishment the ability to counter populism, to prevent another 'Jimmy Carter'

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
24. LOL...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 09:30 AM
Apr 2016

'screed'... first time I've seen a reply concerning my point about pushing issues within DEM primary a 'screed'...

but good to know where HRC supporters have their placed their priorities

thx, have a day!

Stuckinthebush

(10,847 posts)
14. Why?
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 01:33 AM
Apr 2016

You do know how this works, right?

They call each state.

Then the state reports its total votes - pledged and unpledged

Then they call the next state

Hillary wins way before they get to,Wyoming.

 

HumanityExperiment

(1,442 posts)
21. again...
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 08:53 AM
Apr 2016

your 'scenario' occurs at the convention, not before SD have no factor UNTIL the 'call each state'

the point, which you clearly avoid, is that Bernie staying in the race through to convention forces HRC and her supporters to continue to focus on the DEM platform and force HRC to issues she and her supporters do NOT want to continue to address and keep in the forefront

 

ViseGrip

(3,133 posts)
9. Why are the NY delegates included here, when they have not yet been awarded due to fraud
Tue Apr 26, 2016, 11:28 PM
Apr 2016

and audits?

Response to George II (Original post)

nolawarlock

(1,729 posts)
18. So basically it works like this ....
Wed Apr 27, 2016, 06:24 AM
Apr 2016

She needs 35.6% of the remaining delegates to reach 2026, which isn't all that out of the realm of possibility. And Bernie needs over 64% of the remaining delegates just to be equal with her. I like her odds.

As for the supers, not gonna happen. Bernie should have spent as much time schmoozing them as he did the voters, especially since he's disparaged democrats for so many years and even said that he couldn't run as one because of the things he's said, all the while holding his nose and caucusing with them because, at the end of the day, the Republicans certainly wouldn't have had him. More than that, the terrible treatment, abuse, threats, and intimidation tactics that the supers have gotten from Bernie supports across social media has probably nailed the super delegate coffin shut. They aren't going to go for Johnny come lately Democrst over one of the most recognizable faces in the entire party. Not gonna happen.

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