2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSantorum ready to say 'told you so' when Romney loses
Conservatives are sharpening the proverbial knives for establishment Republicans once a Romney loss is official on election night.
BlueDemKev
(3,003 posts)...Obama would have kicked his sniveling little ass to the moon.
brooklynite
(94,585 posts)I went up to New Hampshire to see the entire field; Santorum was actually the best candidate they had. He's nuts, but he can speak conherently about his nutty positions, and isn't afraid to engage with people who disagree with him.
still_one
(92,204 posts)Marsala
(2,090 posts)An amusing thought, but I don't think that Santorum will be able to convert that status into anything in 2016. My guess is the nominee will be either Paul Ryan or Jeb Bush.
still_one
(92,204 posts)johnlucas
(1,250 posts)He can run if he wants to but he's going nowhere in 2016.
He joined this sinking ship called Mitt Romney & he will go down WITH that ship.
All they got is Jeb Bush unless some yet-unknown wonderboy shows up before then.
And even then they'll lose.
The Republican Party is finished in its current state.
Took long enough, didn't it?
John Lucas
LiberalFighter
(50,942 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I thought people were kidding until I went to that place who shall not be named and saw all their pre-debate gloating about how smart he was...and how he was going to kick Joe's fanny.
Ztolkins
(429 posts)He is a Bush.
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)He's all they got & they'll be spending the next few years pumping him up to be the party's standard bearer for 2016.
They were already doing an image makeover on Dubya the past couple of years & that sets up Jeb for the future.
There could be some unknown that pops up before then & pushes Jeb out of his spot.
But until that happens pretty much we're gonna be looking at yet another Clinton vs. Bush election.
Hillary vs. Jeb.
Yep he's a Bush & hopefully that will work against him.
Hillary has been redeemed by her time with Obama.
If she doesn't run it'll be a surprise to me.
She'll finally have her chance to fulfill her girlhood dream of being the 1st female President.
2016 is the best time to go for it & should Obama's 2nd term go much better than his first, she'll be a shoo-in.
But who really knows how the future will turn out?
John Lucas
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,719 posts)Or Gingrich, or Pawlenty, or Bachmann, or Cain, or Perry, or Paul. None of the occupants of the GOP clown car would have had a snowball's chance in hell.
mjjoe
(260 posts)From what I've read, he is now busy making money in corporate America and has indicated (at least for now) that he's done with elected office.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)He is supposed to not be able to take a government position but got himself in a good position.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)had the populist thing going for him...and he seemed very sincere. Geez, if you compare him to Money Boo Boo - he's the polar opposite on the sincerity scale.
If he just said, I think this personally - but would never impose on the masses....
blue-kite
(432 posts)core.
Very dangerous individual.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Freddie
(9,267 posts)"The only reason we lost is because we didn't nominate a True Conservative!" Mitt will be as welcome as GWB at the next convention. As for Ricky-poo I was hoping his 15 minutes would finally be up, but being from PA he never really goes away.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I think whoever the GOP candidate in 2012 is a throw away candidate.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Probably handily. Thank goodness most Republicans are stupid.
Chipper Chat
(9,679 posts)Rudy Giuliani (even with his liberal tendecies)
Jeb Bush (his name being the hold-back)
Colin Powell (but he's uh, uh, bl***)
Mitch Daniels (despite his neocon streak)
johnlucas
(1,250 posts)Jon Huntsman was the only one of this year's list of Republican candidates that remotely posed a threat to Obama.
But he didn't fit in a party that unleashed the bigots on the public stage instead of keeping them in cages like they used to.
He would have given Obama the greatest challenge out of this bunch but he still wouldn't have won.
At best he would have TRULY made it close.
(not like the "too close to call" bullshit the media's putting out to deny this coming Obama Landslide)
Besides he was part of the Obama Administration himself.
Hard to run against something you was once a part of. Especially this soon.
John Lucas
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)because of Obama. The Huntsmans apparently hate Romney. And remember a Huntsman was considered Harry Reid's source for Romney's tax records. AND Huntsman was part of the Obama administration before resigning to run. I honestly don't think Huntsman was in to really be pres but to stop Romney. There is some serious bad blood there. Huntsman's daughter wrote some Huffpo(?) articles hinting at the tax stuff way back when as well...
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)and they were making fun of him - McCain calling him an asshole, and he walked in and they all got quiet.
This is a true look inside McCain..out of all politicians, he seems to take things far less personal. i.e. his big Romney endorsement. Bet he was promised the farm for that one.
Justice
(7,188 posts)davidpdx
(22,000 posts)But he would have been more successful than Romney. Huntsman is the one Republican at the beginning of the election season that I was watching on that side to see if he gained any traction. Given he had foreign policy experience and experience as a governor he is much more qualified than Romney. On foreign policy Romney is clueless.
flamingdem
(39,313 posts)BUT he is a Mormon too
Kurska
(5,739 posts)Not all mormons are bad.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)He seems to be a genuine "moderate" and could and would stand up to the extremists. Romney I have no confidence that he will if elected and, frankly, have no idea about how he will govern.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,168 posts)Only 9 more days, and then he can let loose on Mittens.
LiberalFighter
(50,942 posts)Go for it!
NCLefty
(3,678 posts)Every genius brainiac pol and pundit will use it for their own advantage.
Justice
(7,188 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Phillyindy
(406 posts)justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)when he pivoted to "Moderate Mitt"
Phillyindy
(406 posts)...that's exactly why he lost, because he didn't stick to his conservative principles.
bushisanidiot
(8,064 posts)that party is in complete shambles, no thanks to their tea party extremists.
i cannot WAIT to rub it in their faces when they lose AGAIN.
RomneyLies
(3,333 posts)No Republican will be renominated for their position if they compromise one bit.
Prepare for a repeat of the Federalist Party within the next ten years. If you don't know what happened to the Federalists, Wikipedia it.