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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:03 AM Oct 2012

The No Agenda Myth



By BILL KELLER
Published: October 28, 2012

I feel a rising tide of ennui. America is in the last, numbing days of an excruciating slog to Election Day and some of my tribe — the jaded scribes, the blogging sages and caffeinated cable chatterers — have run out of patience, poor babies. Searching for the source of their malaise, beyond the dubious science of the polls and the mean spirits of the campaigns and the emptiness of the slogans and our own limited attention spans, those of my ilk have come up with this high-minded diagnosis: the candidates have No Agenda.

They say: “It’s a good time to follow the candidates if you like elections about nothing.” And: “Obama’s greatest weakness is that his proposals for the future are nonexistent.” And: “The president did not lay out a second-term agenda ... And that is where he is the weakest.” And: “People say, I want to vote for him, but he hasn’t told me what he’s going to do.” And, by the way: “You don’t get that from Mitt Romney, either.” I’ve heard it countless times and, truth be told, probably said it myself once or twice. No Agenda!

When President Obama’s campaign last week issued a 20-page booklet of its intentions, it was dismissed in my own newspaper for containing “no new proposals,” and in The Wall Street Journal as a “glossy” pitch to critics who say “Mr. Obama hasn’t fully explained what he hopes to accomplish if re-elected.” Romney has made the ostensible lack of an Obama agenda the heart of his closing argument. That’s shrewd politics. The No Agenda meme works nicely for Romney. If Obama has no agenda then he is, by default, the candidate of the status quo, and the status quo is a painfully slow recovery, a hovering debt crisis and a worrisome world. Obama’s retort is that Romney is trying to hide his agenda — dressing a pack of wolves in sheep’s clothing.

But Romney, with or without an agenda, is the candidate who has not presided over a time of national anxiety, and therefore he is the de facto candidate of change. Or as the new slogan has it, “Big Change.”

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LovePeacock

(225 posts)
1. The corporate-owned media is the reason why we have unsubstantial elections.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:09 AM
Oct 2012

So, really, they all need to shut the fuck up.

All they do is report on the bullshit stories, and then all they do is whine about the bullshit stories.

No one wants facts or figures or statistics or reality anymore.

We live in a post-truth America, and people can thank the corporations (mostly owned by conservatives) for that fact.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
3. Yeah
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:25 AM
Oct 2012

and the moment somebody starts giving facts, figures, numbers, etc. the pundits start complaining that they are too "wonkish" and fall asleep. They get all hot and bothered, however, when one candidate shows up at a debate, lies about all of their past policy positions, and steamrolls the opponent and the moderator.

 

LovePeacock

(225 posts)
5. Conservatives want people to be stupid for a very simple reason.
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:30 AM
Oct 2012

When you're stupid, if someone starts spouting democratic positions that are detailed, the dumbasses fall asleep. This is why conservative positions resonate with so many of the morons who live across this country.

Remember how they felt about healthcare? "Goddamn, this fucking bill is hundreds of pages long! Holy shit! A major piece of legislation like this should be one fucking sentence on a post-it note with a coffee stain in the corner."

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
2. We already know what has been on President Obama's agenda since he was elected in 2008
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:22 AM
Oct 2012

It's now 4 years later and some stuff has been done and some stuff hasn't. Shouldn't be too much of a stretch for us to deduce that he will continue working on the things he didn't get done during his first four (VERY) heady years in office. Did voters demand a whole raft of new promises and agenda when Bush ran for re-election in 2004? I pretty much assumed that, if re-elected, Bush's second term would be pretty much as miserable as the first one and that he'd continue on with and/or expand most of his policies at the time. Of course, we had no clue that he had designs on Social Security until he was safely re-(s)elected as he never actually campaigned on it but IMHO the burden should be on somebody challenging an incumbent to produce an acceptable alternative agenda. We already know where President Obama stands on the issues and what his agenda is likely to be during a second term. We know very little about what Romney's actual agenda is or even whether his agenda would be his own or if the Republicans in the House would essentially be making it for him.

 

LovePeacock

(225 posts)
4. Nah. I know exactly what Rmoney's agenda is. It's the same agenda all conservatives
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:26 AM
Oct 2012

have had since 19-fucking-80.

Exploit social issues like gay marriage and abortion in order to get elected.

Then, once elected, say "fuck the social issues" and just start cutting taxes and deregulating industries so rich cocksuckers can profit even more.

There are two types of people who make up the conservative party at this point: rich people and stupid people; and the former simply uses the latter to get elected, and then the former takes care of themselves (but the stupid people don't realize it because, well, they're fucking stupid).

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
7. I had a rwing friend ...
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:52 AM
Oct 2012

repeat this narrative to me, while we were watching football yesterday; &quot President) Obama has no plan for the future!"

I said, "What are you talking about ... The President has been very clear as to what he plans to do when he is re-elected." Then I ticked off several policy points that President Obama has advanced.

My friend, then, said, "Yeah ... But he hasn't said anything new!"

So I said, "Look at this as a football game. If you are winning at half-time, you don't have to CHANGE your game plan ... you don't have to come up with something new ... what you are doing is working; so, you just go into the locker room and lie out plans to tighten up those areas where you can improve."

Mind you ... This friend is a fox (non)watching (but quotes hannity and cavato, word for word), small business owning (a business that survived on stimulus spending, after nearly having to shutter his business in 2008), (President) Obama-hater.

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