Anyone else still like both Sanders and Clinton?

[Turin_C3PO]

Or am I alone in that? I prefer Bernie as far as policy goes but I like Clinton and have no problem supporting her this November. I believe her to be a good center-left Democrat ( with the exception of foreign policy, where I'd judge her to be center-right).

[firebrand80]

1. I've never disliked Bernie

Some of his supporters make forget that sometimes.

[ebbie15644]

2. Yes I do like them both but

Bernie more closely advocates for what I believe in. I will vote for Hillary but my heart is with Sanders. I'm also afraid she will ultimately ruin the democratic party. I think, at least by the next election, we could be headed for trouble like the repubs are now

[woodsprite]

52. I'm with you! I'll vote for her, I donated to her before Bernie

But IMO it's Bernie first. If he is not the nominee, than I will get behind her as I've been behind him this past year.

[One of the 99]

3. I like Bernie and voted for him.

But I don't hate Clinton. I don't agree with many of her positions on issues but I felt the same way about President Obama 8 years ago.

[Dr Hobbitstein]

4. Rationality is not allowed on this board.

Only black and white thinking.

In all seriousness, I agree. I like both of them and will gladly pull the lever for whomever is the nominee in the GE.

[bkkyosemite]

5. I love Bernie for what he stands for. Not Clinton because of so many issues she has stood for

and lies and deceit.

[LonePirate]

6. I voted for Bernie but I have no hesitations voting for Hillary in the GE unlike many others here.

[Armstead]

7. I like them both fine...But I don't like Clinton as Presidential candidate

[Turin_C3PO]

11. That's fair.

I'm ecstatic that Bernie has done as well as he has! A self described Democratic Socialist winning maybe 20+ States would've been unthinkable in previous cycles.

[Blanks]

56. Good point...

And I don't hear it very often.

One of the reasons that I do not support Sanders is because he is a self proclaimed Democratic Socialist, and while I have no problem with that, I don't think it'll stand up to republican scrutiny in November.

...But, he has said that he is a socialist all along and has gotten quite a bit of support despite that.

Perhaps a growing number of Americans are beginning to understand what socialism ACTUALLY is and that there is quite a bit of it in the country already.

[whatthehey]

8. Sure

Your assessment is similar to mine except my slight Sanders bias is more based on style than policy, where I like some of each candidate's positions depending on the issue, roughly equally although can't say I've gone to the extent of using an enumerated matrix.

I'd be perfectly content to see either as POTUS.

[cherokeeprogressive]

9. Never did like Clinton as a presidential candidate OR Secretary of State.

Never.

[Turin_C3PO]

12. I think Kerry's

done better as Sec of State. My number one issue with Hillary is that she's hawkish.

[Dawgs]

10. No. n/t

[Tarc]

13. I prefer Hillary, but if by some major miracle Bernie winds up the nominee

he's still miles better than anything the GOP can dredge up. I have no problem voting for either D this fall.

[BernieforPres2016]

14. Anybody who likes them both doesn't really care much about issues or honesty in government

Because they could hardly be further apart.

My guess is you know better. Yet another Hillary supporter tossing out a loyalty oath thread.

[WheelWalker]

15. What a crock of shit.

[Turin_C3PO]

16. Not at all.

Just was curious and asked a question. I disagree with your assessment of my position and I'll leave it at that.

[apnu]

23. Ah... ideological zealotry and purity tests, always helpful... not. (nt)

[FSogol]

36. Except that they voted together 93% of the time.

[bbrady42]

40. Hardly far apart at all.

I took one of those on-line 'who should you vote for' quizzes a while ago and it gave me Bernie 97%, Hillary 95%. How is that far apart?

Either one would get my vote in November.

[uponit7771]

47. sanctimonious much?

[WheelWalker]

17. I'm on board with either

[apnu]

18. I am of the same mind.

Bernie's my guy, but I can live with Clinton. Change takes time and a collective effort. One guy at the top of the White House, while symbolic, won't get 1/10th of the change we seek.

I have no problems voting for Clinton should she be the nominee in November and continue to struggle for progress and I will jawbone at her as part of that struggle.

[leftynyc]

19. I still like both

but prefer Hillary. I'll vote for whoever has the D behind their name because, to me, the biggest issue by far is the federal bench.

[Turin_C3PO]

20. The court

and making sure ACA isn't gutted are my main concerns.

[VulgarPoet]

21. Down for Bernie, never for the warhawk.

Kerry's been by leaps and bounds a better SecState-- at least he hasn't directly disobeyed the President to consult with Sidney fucking Blumenthal.

[Lizzie Poppet]

22. My view of Hillary's policy positions...

...is that she's center-right on economic and foreign policy matters, center-left on social issues (at least those of no import to Wall Street), and centrist on the rest. At least as much as her continual flip-flopping allows one to have any opinion of her positions...

Those center-right areas are a problem for me...but perhaps not as much of a problem as what I perceive to be her lack of character.

[JudyM]

25. My overall view, as well.

I wish I could believe that she will effect meaningful change in areas such as environmental and that she would not throw more money and lives at interventionism and corporate donor priorities.

[Freethinker65]

55. Agreed.

I would add that after watching several hours of her Benghazi hearing testimony, character flaws aside, I found her to be very presidential. I voted for Bernie in the Primary, but will vote Hillary in November as she will be the democratic candidate for president.

[Ryano42]

24. Absolutely...would support either enthusiastically!

As Bernie said "Hillary on her worst day is better then ANY REPUBLICAN on their best day"

I cannot understand the open warfare and genuine hatred here when the threat of a real, pure FASCIST DICTATOR that Trump is is staring us in the face.

Some have even touted Trump is better on some issues than Hillary...are they insane?

Trump is an UNKNOWN, UNPREDICTABLE egomaniac who spouts gibberish and hubris and I would gladly, gratefully take either of our candidates and I will work hard for either one when the time comes.

I've said it before here and I will continue to:

"Only a fool fights in a burning house"

- Kang

[vi5]

26. Will probably vote for her....

...but I don't like, nor do I trust Hillary Clinton. Never have, and barring some major seismic change in her policies or approach to politics, I likely never will.

[JSup]

27. I'm not sure I can answer...

...with truth (to myself). As of right now, no; I like Clinton and my respect for Sanders has turned into disgust. I'm pretty sure I'll feel differently later once the tribalism has ended, and my rational mind reasserts itself (I always have in the past), but I can't say for sure.

[Turin_C3PO]

38. I feel you on that one.

My most intense primary was 2008. I loved Obama and hated Hillary throughout that primary season. I thought I could never like her again,but once Obama sealed the deal I admired the way she worked her ass for him and by August I had already forgotten any animosity that I had had toward Hillary.

[MoonRiver]

28. Not anymore.

[Cobalt Violet]

29. Not me.

[JohnnyRingo]

30. Both good democrats.

There are people however who think there's only one democrat in the whole country, and he's an independent. That's odd.

[Adrahil]

31. I still like both...... If just barely.

As the campaign wore on, Bernie has started to piss me off. But i know it's just the intensity of the primaries and th edude I like is still in there.

[TheBlackAdder]

32. Me, for different reasons which will remain private.

[Mz Pip]

33. Sure, I like them both.

We haven't voted yet. I haven't made a choice, yet. Trying to wade through the speculations, conspiracy theories, innuendos and outright made up shit.

I will support either candidate in the general election.

If I stayed home and pouted and threw a hissy fit every time my preferred candidate did not win the primary I would have voted in few, if any general elections.

This election is about keeping the Republican out of the White House. The thought that Donald could appoint Ted Cruz to the Supreme Court is motivation enough to vote.

[CentralCoaster]

34. Clinton is gifted in ways not fit for the presidency. She has a gift of gab, a good bullshitter.

And, as such, she could really do a lot heading a service organization or similar public good post, provided she had keepers making sure that she wasn't personally profiting from it.

I know it's a mixed complement, but she does have that skill set.

It's just not one that I want representing our nation, it's too dishonest.

[BootinUp]

35. I am disappointed to some degree

with Bernie's explanation for continuing his campaign. I think he could have made a convincing argument for continuing instead of the one we got. But putting that aside, I still appreciate having his voice there on the issues, and I hope this all ends well so we will be a strong unified party going into the general election.

Do I still like them both? Yes.

[Nye Bevan]

37. I did like Sanders, but the games he is trying to play with the superdelegates is changing that.

Naked hypocrisy, grasping to win in any way he can regardless of the will of the voters, is not really a likable trait.

[nemo137]

39. If we're playing the anecdata game, most of my IRL friends like both

I think social media distorts the view of this. I voted for Bernie in the IL primary, but I decided at the last minute, and have no compunctions voting for Hillary in the GE.

[oberliner]

41. I like both Sanders and Clinton

And have since the outset (even though they both have flaws).

It has been unfortunate seeing all the nastiness between supporters of each candidate.

[Demsrule86]

42. I used to like Bernie

I voted for him in Ohio...but now I can't stand him.

[Turin_C3PO]

43. That might change

once the heat of the primaries are over. That's my experience anyway.

[CanonRay]

44. Both my wife and I still like both

and are having a hard time deciding who to vote for (Oregon)

[LanternWaste]

45. I'd be rather pleased with either.

I'd be rather pleased with either.

[bigwillq]

46. Like Bernie. Dislike Hillary (nt)

[LexVegas]

48. Love Hillary. Can't stand Bernie. nt

[Turin_C3PO]

49. Maybe that'll change

after the primary? Like I said upthread, during the 08 primary season I thought Clinton to be the devil lol I was such a huge Obama supporter. But after the primaries when she and him united, I quickly forgot my previous animosity.

[LexVegas]

50. It could. Depends on how hard he works campaigning for her. nt

[Surya Gayatri]

58. That's my final litmus test as well. To regain anything like my original level

of respect, the Bern's going to have to prove his Democratic Party bone fides by enthusiastically endorsing and working for Hillary in the GE.

That said, I'd vote for him over a Repub. any time.

[tularetom]

53. I still like Sanders, never did like Clinton

And I still don't.

[The Second Stone]

54. They are both great people. My distaste is for some of his supporters

who a pushing the Fox News garbage.

Bernie is a very weird man. http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/05/bernie_sanders_electability_argument_is_still_a_myth.html

I get where he is coming from on this stuff, but it is weird and makes him very vulnerable to a sustained and pointed attack by an opponent in a general.

[auntpurl]

57. I want Hillary, but I would have run to the voting booth like my butt was on fire

to vote for Bernie in November if he'd been the nominee*. As much as I'm not a huge fan of his, he is about a brillion times better than any GOP.

*(Metaphorically. I vote by mail because I live overseas.)

[Ryano42]

59. If this were nominated I would support it over Drumpf!

Half Eaten Tuna Sandwich 2016!



Also it's harder for the sandwich to press THE Button. (and it has better judgment than Herr OrangeFuhrer!)