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ABC News/Wash Post - (Romney +1) again, but Obama at 50% Approval (Original Post) TroyD Oct 2012 OP
How can they have polls? Doctor Jack Oct 2012 #1
Doesn't matter. Romney has lost. Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #4
It wasn't a rally it was a "storm relief concert" Doctor Jack Oct 2012 #7
Haha, that is awesome. Like Farm Aid, except not...!!! anneboleyn Oct 2012 #22
'Doesn't matter. Romney has lost.' TroyD Oct 2012 #12
Yes, lots of work to do and can't be complacement. Must also be optimistic. RBInMaine Oct 2012 #19
President Obama did that during his first run here in SW PA. n/t wisteria Oct 2012 #13
Did this include yesterday and last night? fugop Oct 2012 #2
wondering the same thing. woolldog Oct 2012 #3
Yep. Dumb as Gallup's been, at least they were smart enough to stop polling. fugop Oct 2012 #6
heheh woolldog Oct 2012 #8
Once again.. "likely voters?" who are curated in a screen?? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #5
+100000000 - There are a lot of African American voters that the pollsters ItsTheMediaStupid Oct 2012 #9
I am at a loss.......... 1springhill Oct 2012 #10
That's the way a polarized, two-party system works TroyD Oct 2012 #14
I don't know. gullible, greedy, hateful? n/t wisteria Oct 2012 #15
And racist? FailureToCommunicate Oct 2012 #21
There are many low info voters out there dennis4868 Oct 2012 #20
I think they just ran wiith the poll from the other day. n/t wisteria Oct 2012 #11
It was 26th to 29th. Was the polling done before the storm came in? Jennicut Oct 2012 #16
'I expect them to say Romney plus 5 right before the election' TroyD Oct 2012 #17
This is how I feel. Jennicut Oct 2012 #25
That they don't release the registered voter %s makes this much less useful.... S_E_Fudd Oct 2012 #18
How the hell is Romney leading in any poll? budkin Oct 2012 #23
That's the way a polarized, two-party system works TroyD Oct 2012 #24

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
1. How can they have polls?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:23 PM
Oct 2012

A huge portion of the country, one this is overwhelmingly democratic, haven't been reachable since early yesterday. Why would they even bother?

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
4. Doesn't matter. Romney has lost.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

National polls are all academic at this point.

I mean a rally in a high school gym with students and staff?

Oh my god he's toast.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
12. 'Doesn't matter. Romney has lost.'
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:57 PM
Oct 2012

Could you please stop saying that?

Romney hasn't lost until he is put down officially on Election Night and Obama is declared elected.

Both Barack Obama & Michelle Obama have in fact said over the past month that it's possible Obama can lose this election if people take it for granted and don't come out to vote.

So there is a week left of work to do yet.

fugop

(1,828 posts)
2. Did this include yesterday and last night?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:24 PM
Oct 2012

I mean, I'm not a big unskewer, but really. Was anyone answering pollsters on the phone in the mid-Atlantic and Northeast last night? Wish ABC/WashPo would break down where those surveyed were located.

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
3. wondering the same thing.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:33 PM
Oct 2012

Would seem to me that national (and even state polls in the northeast/virginia) are useless right now with so many people out of power

fugop

(1,828 posts)
6. Yep. Dumb as Gallup's been, at least they were smart enough to stop polling.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:37 PM
Oct 2012

Maybe this will help them hit the reset button and produce polls that suddenly make sense. "OOPS! In the two days we stopped, clearly EVERYTHING'S CHANGED!"

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
8. heheh
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:39 PM
Oct 2012

I was thinking the same thing.

More likely Gallup doesn't put out anymore polls, that way they can argue there was a sudden shift to Obama over the last week.

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
5. Once again.. "likely voters?" who are curated in a screen??
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:36 PM
Oct 2012

Because the likely voters look nothing like the people standing line for hours to vote early for the president in swing states.

ItsTheMediaStupid

(2,800 posts)
9. +100000000 - There are a lot of African American voters that the pollsters
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:48 PM
Oct 2012

Did not expect to come to the party.

Likely the same with all minorities.

I believe that when Sununu opened his pie hole and said, 'Colin Powell only endorsed Obama because he is black," it motivated a lot more than the GOP base.

1springhill

(63 posts)
10. I am at a loss..........
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 05:56 PM
Oct 2012

to explain how this thing could be tied. With all the lying, utter ridiculousness of Romney and the republican party; not to mention the improvement in the economy. What the hell is wrong with people?

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
14. That's the way a polarized, two-party system works
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:00 PM
Oct 2012

How did Bush get half the vote? (Even though he stole the election).

You could put a member of the KKK on the Republican ticket and millions of people will still vote for it. It's just the reality of the system we live in.

McCain & Palin still managed to get 46% of the vote in 2008 despite the fact that there had been 8 years of Bush, a collapsing economy and a choice for V.P. who wasn't qualified to be President.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
16. It was 26th to 29th. Was the polling done before the storm came in?
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:07 PM
Oct 2012

We were all hunkered down here on the east coast and many lost power right away. Doesn't matter anyway. Most polls are simply bouncing around the margins of error right now. Even Rasmussen the last two days, though I expect them to say Romney plus 5 right before the election. Only Gallup is the real outlier.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
17. 'I expect them to say Romney plus 5 right before the election'
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:10 PM
Oct 2012

Isn't Rasmussen likely to try and keep the numbers close in the National polls?

Would he want to risk losing his reputation as one of the best pollsters by being way off?

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
25. This is how I feel.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:57 PM
Oct 2012

Scott Rasmussen did not seem to care in 2010. So that is why I don't trust him to change his more conservative leaning voter ID model before election day. If the polling stays close, then I assume Romney is in bigger trouble because his polls skew so conservatively. I think Rasmussen went in full to support Romney. He probably did not feel so strongly toward McCain.

S_E_Fudd

(1,295 posts)
18. That they don't release the registered voter %s makes this much less useful....
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:11 PM
Oct 2012

They screen out the 5% of voters who indicate they probably will vote, but are not certain. Most of them are probably votes for the President...

Certainly makes the 1% difference meaningless...and probably puts Obama 2 or so points ahead in reality

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
24. That's the way a polarized, two-party system works
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:39 PM
Oct 2012

How did Bush get half the vote? (Even though he stole the election).

You could put a member of the KKK on the Republican ticket and millions of people will still vote for it. It's just the reality of the system we live in.

McCain & Palin still managed to get 46% of the vote in 2008 despite the fact that there had been 8 years of Bush, a collapsing economy and a choice for V.P. who wasn't qualified to be President.

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