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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:22 PM Oct 2012

Obama’s Star Fades With Young Voters But Still Shines Brighter Than Romney’s

A poll released Monday shows that President Obama has shed much of the star power that electrified college campuses in 2008.

The poll from the Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning & Engagement (CIRCLE) shows Obama leading Mitt Romney 52 percent to 35 percent among people aged 18 to 29 years old who are “extremely likely to vote.” (Being “extremely likely to vote” was CIRCLE’s likely voter screen.)

That’s a much smaller margin than the 34-point gap that separated Obama from Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) among the age group four years ago. It’s also a sharp dip in support: Obama claimed 66 percent of the age group in 2008. A poll from Pew Research Center on Monday showed Obama leading Romney among 18- to 29-year-olds by a comparable spread, 56 percent to 35 percent.

Peter Levine, director at CIRCLE, said Obama can overcome the decline but it could still be an ominous sign to his campaign.

“I think if you are an Obama supporter, you need to be a little concerned,” Levine told TPM via email. “His comparatively weak position is already factored into national polls, so it’s not a revelation of an unknown problem for the Democrats. But it puts a specific number on the problem. Obama is running about 14 points behind where he was in November 2008 among youth.”

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http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/10/poll-obama-romney-young-voters.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

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Obama’s Star Fades With Young Voters But Still Shines Brighter Than Romney’s (Original Post) DonViejo Oct 2012 OP
"Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning & Engagement" WHO???? progressivebydesign Oct 2012 #1
If you are directing this sentence to me... DonViejo Oct 2012 #4
Yeah well Transformers 2 still made a sh*tload of money Maximumnegro Oct 2012 #2
Actually Transformers is a great film metaphor for Romney: blue-kite Oct 2012 #5
I have two words for this guy and they rhyme with pull and hit. tanyev Oct 2012 #3
It doesn't matter how many times warrior1 Oct 2012 #6
I always like to go directly to the source on these polls and skip the third party interpretation... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #7
tripe MjolnirTime Oct 2012 #8
The young expected too much. laureloak Oct 2012 #9
Sorry, I'm going to have to Trash this thread..I've Cha Oct 2012 #10
2008 was a very unique year. Jennicut Oct 2012 #11

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
1. "Center for Information and Research on Civic Learning & Engagement" WHO????
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:27 PM
Oct 2012

I just don't get these articles... at all.

I LOOK at the crowds on the campuses where the President is speaking this year, and they are larger and more fired up than ever.

I've also never got the point of posting negative stuff all the time on here...

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
4. If you are directing this sentence to me...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:04 PM
Oct 2012
I've also never got the point of posting negative stuff all the time on here...


Here are some of the OP's I've made today

Trump hits a new low after Sandy
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251190982

Romney’s lax regulation may have fueled meningitis outbreak
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014284358

As governor, Mitt Romney failed Massachusetts when disaster struck
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=post&forum=1251&pid=191866


As a rule, I post only from sources I trust with the information they publish. I'm sorry if you find these posts negative.

Maximumnegro

(1,134 posts)
2. Yeah well Transformers 2 still made a sh*tload of money
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:29 PM
Oct 2012

and the first one was definitely not the equivalent of the first African American winning the presidency.

blue-kite

(432 posts)
5. Actually Transformers is a great film metaphor for Romney:
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 08:42 PM
Oct 2012

- An ability to transform from one thing to another, seamlessly, without breaking stride of smirking.
- Being completely heartless and devoid of passion... basically an empty shell of a man.
- Lots of money but still no class.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
7. I always like to go directly to the source on these polls and skip the third party interpretation...
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:11 PM
Oct 2012
YOUNG VOTERS AND THE HORSERACE: 52.1% Obama v. 35.1% Romney

QUOTES:

"CIRCLE today released a groundbreaking poll of young people’s views of the election. The survey, commissioned by the Youth Education Fund, is unique in that it polled 1,695 youth (ages 18-29) in June/July and 1,109 of the same youth between October 12 and 23. Surveying the same people twice provides powerful evidence of change over time.

With just 8 days until the election, CIRCLE’s new youth poll, commissioned by the Youth Engagement Fund, shows the following:

* The proportion saying they are extremely likely to vote has risen 9.9 points, from 44.7% to 54.6%. Two-thirds (67.3%) of young adults are “very” or “extremely” likely to vote, up 7.1 percentage points since June/July.

* The proportion who are paying attention to the election has also risen, from 56.1% to 71%.

* If the election were held today, Obama would win the youth vote by 52.1% to 35.1% among those registered voters who are 'extremely likely to vote.'

Candidate Support

If the election were held today, Obama would win the youth vote by 17 percentage points (52.1% to 35.1%) among those who are registered to vote and “extremely likely to vote,” which was our screen for likely voters. Support for Obama rose more than 7 points among likely voters: up from 44.4% in July. In contrast, a majority (59.7%) said they were either disappointed or angry with Romney – and only 9.4% said they admired him.

Support for Romney is down slightly from 36.9% to 35.1% among likely, registered voters (within the margin of error). Almost 32% think that Ryan is a good choice for VP, but 34% think he is a bad choice (19.5% “very bad”) and 32.5% have no opinion of him. The proportion open to voting for either candidate was 8.8%. Based on an average of national polls, about 5 percent of all likely voters are considered undecided. This slightly higher undecided rate is mainly due to the existence of first-time voters (those 18 to 21)."


The rest of the article also seems pretty positive to me. 2008 was 2008....old history. This is now, and the President leads decisively in this important age group.

Cha

(297,240 posts)
10. Sorry, I'm going to have to Trash this thread..I've
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oct 2012

seen too much evidence to the contrary to give any credit to this.

Jennicut

(25,415 posts)
11. 2008 was a very unique year.
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012

Bush was a terrible President and Obama was a very different kind of candidate. People are more realistic now, I think. Which is a good thing. Many of us never bought into the whole right wing crap about him being a "messiah". Enthusiasm will naturally be different this year but the 18 to 29 year olds and even those under 45 still favor the President over Romney by a pretty substantive margin.

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