2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSurvey USA Poll of NC: Romney 50% Obama 45%
SUSA had a good poll out tonight from Ohio (49-46 for Obama), but also have a not so good poll out for NC:
In North Carolina, Romney Poised to Come From Behind To Drag 15 Electoral Votes From Blue Column to Red: Early voters in North Carolina favor Barack Obama, who has a lead"banked" heading into the final week of campaigning, according to a SurveyUSA poll conducted exclusively for WRAL-TV in Raleigh. But: Election-Day voters will go for Mitt Romney in sufficient
numbers that it appears Romney will outperform Obama, 50% to 45%, when all votes are counted. Obama leads among those who have already voted, by mail or in person, but among voters who plan to vote on Election Day, Romney leads 2:1. All of Romney's advantage comes from men, where he leads by 9 points. The contest is tied among women. White voters 2:1 favor Romney. The
contest is close because African Americans vote 10:1 for Obama. Romney leads narrowly in greater Charlotte and in southern and Coastal NC. Romney leads decisively in greater Greensboro. Romney leads among the educated and the less educated.
http://www.wral.com/asset/news/state/nccapitol/2012/10/30/11719832/1351636612-WRAL_News_poll_results.pdf
Looks like early voters are breaking 56-43 for Obama among those who have voted in person. I'm still not ready to write-off NC as if we can keep up our early voting and get new voters to the polls as well, we have a fighting chance.
***I will be interested in seeing PPP's new poll of NC this week when it comes out. PPP is based in NC and got their start polling the state.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)abumbyanyothername
(2,711 posts)but it is the last 15 of my 347 EVs for Obama. (The next ones to topple would be AZ.)
Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)so they are worried.
BraKez2
(279 posts)Maximumnegro
(1,134 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)they're Southern pro-war Baptists who hate gays and oppose choice. Remember, NC is the land of Virginia Foxx. Laugh away.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)to let white males have the vote?
Alekei_Firebird
(320 posts)Obama barely won NC in a landslide year in 2008, so it was always gonna be an uphill climb. Best thing to do is to keep fighting and distract the Romney campaign. If we can win there, then marvelous. If not, it was to be expected.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)O won America by 7%. He won NC by .03%. He's probably winning NC if he's winning in a landslide which I don't rule out at this point.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)IMPOSSIBLE, this difference between Pres Obama and Romney is 1 pts. Ofcourse I see Obama winning by 50k votes.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)If Pres obama looses it will be between 0.5pts. Today Pres Obama has 19.2% lead on Romney on early votes and my simulation says Pres Obama winning by 50k-100k votes. Yes NC is very close but 5 its is 200k votes loss, IMPOSSIBLE...
LisaL
(44,973 posts)WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)A loss is a loss.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Many DUers are convinced NC is "turning blue" and that it's a given for Obama this year. It's not.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)But at least a couple of very recent polls said it's evenly split right now.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)drag them there
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Thrill
(19,178 posts)I think Pres Obama will win the state by 3-4 points. I think people also underestimate Gary Johnson here. I think he'll get at 1% of the vote
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)I forgot about Johnson.
oswaldactedalone
(3,491 posts)by .3 points but not 3-4. Robme could win by that much. It's an uphill battle but the Obama campaign has fought the good fight in NC one way or the other.