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2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Progressive Case For Hillary Clinton Isn’t Much of a Case At All
The Progressive Case For Hillary Clinton Isnt Much of a Case At All
A recent argument for Clinton from the left fails to convince.
BY Douglas Williams
(In These Times) In a recent issue of In These Times, Sady Doyle made A Progressive Case for Hillary Clinton. That such a case could be made might come as a surprise to many progressives, considering that Hillary Clinton has, for instance, derided single-payer healthcare as something that will never, ever come to pass, and has poohed-poohed calls for free public higher education by stating that students need more skin in the game.
Still, its worth asking: Does Doyles case hold up under scrutiny? Lets take a look.
Has sexism influenced assessments of Hillary Clinton?
Doyle spends the first third of her piece arguing that it is impossible to analyze Clintonher policies, her career path, her hairwithout understanding how gender bias operates, and that as progressives, it is our duty to resist these stereotypes, and, if we are journalists, to help our readers understand how gender bias operates at an unconscious level.
It is true that we all have biases, and it is undoubtedly true that there are many, many people who have made sexist statements about Hillary Clintons candidacyits been a central trope of the Rights attempt to discredit her for more than two decades now.
But aside from the fact that pointing out and condemning such sexism, while important, does not constitute a progressive case for Clinton, there are two problems with this argument.
The first issue is with the research cited. Doyle references a 2010 study from Yale School of Management professors Tyler Okimoto and Victoria Brescoll which found that women who seek to gain political power can elicit negative reactions due to their deviation from the expectation that women exhibit more communal traits, such as warmth and comfort. But a 2013 methodological study by Kathleen Dolan found that surveys and experiments that ask people about support for female politicians in the abstract or about hypothetical candidateslike the study that Doyle cites, which constructed fictional state senatorsdo not get at the question of the role that gender plays in vote choice. ....................(more)
http://inthesetimes.com/article/19118/the-progressive-case-for-hillary-clinton-isnt-much-of-a-case-at-all
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The Progressive Case For Hillary Clinton Isn’t Much of a Case At All (Original Post)
marmar
May 2016
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marmar
(77,091 posts)3. So glad you like us blacks.
I know I'll sleep much better tonight.
farleftlib
(2,125 posts)4. You obviously haven't read TPP or an analysis of what it does
The TPP makes it easier to offshore jobs and pushes down wages for jobs that remain here.
https://www.citizen.org/documents/analysis-tpp-text-november-2015.pdf
FarPoint
(12,444 posts)2. My decision remains clear....
I support Hillary Clinton for President...she has my vote. That said as a Progressive.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)5. Progressive? My tushie
Ferd Berfel
(3,687 posts)7. She's not a progressive.
Calling her a progressive is like a false flag opperation
jwirr
(39,215 posts)9. A must read for all of us. She is not a progressive.
Sparkly
(24,149 posts)10. First paragraph shows this is not a serious critique.
It mischaracterizes her positions on universal healthcare and on public higher education.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)11. who is this Sady Doyle twerp anyway?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251944119
it's like the Marcottbots saying making fun of Kenny G is a call to unpack cisheteronormativity on the left
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/02/bernie_bros_stop_this_meme_your_dumb_joke_about_hillarys_music_taste_isnt_funny_its_predictably_sexist/
http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/your-pop-culture-sanders-vs-clinton-memes-are-sexist-and-unfunny-8130819
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/users/2016/02/the_bernie_vs_hillary_meme_is_weird_ceaseless_and_kind_of_sexist_just_like.html
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/theres-a-new-bernie-or-hillary-meme-but-is-it-sexist-stereot
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/279562/hillary-clinton-bernie-bro-sexism/
I think my brain popped somewhere around "situates Bernie's dominance in masculine subcultures and products"
it's like the Marcottbots saying making fun of Kenny G is a call to unpack cisheteronormativity on the left
http://www.salon.com/2016/02/02/bernie_bros_stop_this_meme_your_dumb_joke_about_hillarys_music_taste_isnt_funny_its_predictably_sexist/
http://www.houstonpress.com/arts/your-pop-culture-sanders-vs-clinton-memes-are-sexist-and-unfunny-8130819
http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/users/2016/02/the_bernie_vs_hillary_meme_is_weird_ceaseless_and_kind_of_sexist_just_like.html
http://www.buzzfeed.com/ryanhatesthis/theres-a-new-bernie-or-hillary-meme-but-is-it-sexist-stereot
http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/279562/hillary-clinton-bernie-bro-sexism/
I think my brain popped somewhere around "situates Bernie's dominance in masculine subcultures and products"