"On honesty and trustworthiness, she's losing by 9 points to DONALD TRUMP, a serial....liar"

[marmar]

[coffeeAM]

1. If the Democratic party care 1 iota, she has to go.

[Autumn]

2. Yet they want Bernie to drop out?

[Sheepshank]

3. Bernie supporters have been working hard to ensure that result

facts be damned, the image they are nurturing is everything.

And here you are, post after post bashing Hillary and you wonder why she has negatives? One might question who you are actually trying to help win the GE.

The will of an additional 3,000,000 people is paramount, and not your petty little posts. Why are you trying so hard to work against the Democratic process and bypass the will of the people?

[marmar]

4. Posting a Young Turks video is working against the Democratic process? Who knew?

And the "will of the people" is the will of a portion of Democratic voters. Intellectual dishonesty doesn't serve you well.

[Sheepshank]

6. yes...you search and post according to your agenda...issues that have been refuted a dozen times

You are actively attmepting to thwart the THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

You can manufacture as much outrage as you want...but your agenda is clear, regardless of what the MAJORITY of the Democrats want, you are hell bent on promoting what you absolutely know to be a losing proposition in the GE.

[marmar]

8. The PPP poll has been refuted?

I think it's been "refuted" in your mind, and that's fine. But spare me the intellectually dishonest psyops BS. It doesn't work.

[timmymoff]

5. But she's been vetted

how can this be happening? Is she responsible for her low trust numbers or is it someone else's fault? Seems it always is someone else's fault. Iraq war vote.. she was mislead etc. Never can she be held accountable for her triangulation or lack of trust. It's her turn damn it !

[Sheepshank]

9. why are you trying to hang you hat on that info, as if it were a disqualifier?

there are many more aspects to governing and Hillary apparently is scoring very well in all of those other areas, so much so she is ahead by over 3,000,000 votes and hundreds of delegates...how do you account for that?

[reddread]

16. what are her qualifiers?

Health care reform?
We cant.
we may need to reform the reforms in place.
Foreign policy experience?

Billionaire friends around the world?

what do you think makes her the best bet for the Democratic Party?

none of that lesser evil stuff, and if you only have SCOTUS

spare me.

she stands with Brock.

[Cosmic Kitten]

10. you wonder why she has negatives?

L O L

First off, this is DU...
a tiny insignificant democratic website
in a dark corner of the interweb
which has virtually no influence on
popular opinion.

At least that's what I see repeated
here time and time again.
It's frequently considered an isolated *bubble*
that bears no resemblance to the mainstream.

Second, Hillary's YUUUGE lead
in votes <sarcasm> is suspect due
to an ongoing series of primary irregularities.
(See also: Baltimore decertifies election results)

Third, nothing violates the *will of the people*
more than SUPER DELEGATES.

Super delegates ONLY purpose
is to thwart the *will of the people*.

Super delegates have always been intended
to ensure that the *Establishment* candidate
gets the nomination.

Lastly, Hillary is her own worst enemy.
The hubris, poor judgment, her
tone deafness and obliviousness to
wealth inequality is the root of the criticism
of her positions.

As Jon Stewart suggested, maybe she is
an empty shell to be filled with whatever
the *pragmatic* position du jour happens to be

Supporting Hillary is supporting a Trump presidency

[Hiraeth]

19. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

what she said !

[Orsino]

7. Well, trump's lies are still relatively inconsequential.

They hurt feelings and embarrass us, but so far we can't lay any economic collapses or war casualties at his feet.

He's probably going to get a few people killed without ever being president.

[Sheepshank]

11. You are really making the arguement for Trump, here on DU? wow.

[Orsino]

12. For a man who's never done much of anything in his life? Hardly. n/t

[Sheepshank]

14. glad to see you walking that back

he is a dangerous, egomaniacle, ignorant, buffoon and you were attempting to portray him as harmless.

[Orsino]

15. Trump's lies are relatively inconsequential because he is unaccomplished.

He has no business near any sort of political power on that basis alone. If he ever took elected office, I have no doubt he would be a danger to us all.

And yet Hillary Clinton cozies up to the very people who tried to kill our economy, and who definitely did kill hundreds of thousands. Her lies aren't just dangerous; they have already wrought terrible harm. The best I can say for her on these points is that she has been a follower instead of a leader.

What do you think needs walking back?

[Sheepshank]

17. no they are not harmless...they are picture into the mind of who would be leader. n/t

[Orsino]

20. Potentially more harmful than anyone named Clinton or Bush.

So far, he's mainly just a privileged blowhard.

[dsc]

13. really

he lied when he said he opposed the Iraq war, is that inconsequential.

[reddread]

18. Lying has become accepted practice, how much outrage can you muster?

and who is to blame?