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"On honesty and trustworthiness, she's losing by 9 points to DONALD TRUMP, a serial....liar" (Original Post) marmar May 2016 OP
If the Democratic party care 1 iota, she has to go. coffeeAM May 2016 #1
Yet they want Bernie to drop out? Autumn May 2016 #2
Bernie supporters have been working hard to ensure that result Sheepshank May 2016 #3
Posting a Young Turks video is working against the Democratic process? Who knew? marmar May 2016 #4
yes...you search and post according to your agenda...issues that have been refuted a dozen times Sheepshank May 2016 #6
The PPP poll has been refuted? marmar May 2016 #8
But she's been vetted timmymoff May 2016 #5
why are you trying to hang you hat on that info, as if it were a disqualifier? Sheepshank May 2016 #9
what are her qualifiers? reddread May 2016 #16
you wonder why she has negatives? Cosmic Kitten May 2016 #10
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Hiraeth May 2016 #19
Well, trump's lies are still relatively inconsequential. Orsino May 2016 #7
You are really making the arguement for Trump, here on DU? wow. Sheepshank May 2016 #11
For a man who's never done much of anything in his life? Hardly. n/t Orsino May 2016 #12
glad to see you walking that back Sheepshank May 2016 #14
Trump's lies are relatively inconsequential because he is unaccomplished. Orsino May 2016 #15
no they are not harmless...they are picture into the mind of who would be leader. n/t Sheepshank May 2016 #17
Potentially more harmful than anyone named Clinton or Bush. Orsino May 2016 #20
really dsc May 2016 #13
Lying has become accepted practice, how much outrage can you muster? reddread May 2016 #18
 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
3. Bernie supporters have been working hard to ensure that result
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:24 AM
May 2016

facts be damned, the image they are nurturing is everything.

And here you are, post after post bashing Hillary and you wonder why she has negatives? One might question who you are actually trying to help win the GE.

The will of an additional 3,000,000 people is paramount, and not your petty little posts. Why are you trying so hard to work against the Democratic process and bypass the will of the people?

marmar

(77,434 posts)
4. Posting a Young Turks video is working against the Democratic process? Who knew?
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:29 AM
May 2016

And the "will of the people" is the will of a portion of Democratic voters. Intellectual dishonesty doesn't serve you well.


 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
6. yes...you search and post according to your agenda...issues that have been refuted a dozen times
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:32 AM
May 2016

You are actively attmepting to thwart the THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE.

You can manufacture as much outrage as you want...but your agenda is clear, regardless of what the MAJORITY of the Democrats want, you are hell bent on promoting what you absolutely know to be a losing proposition in the GE.

marmar

(77,434 posts)
8. The PPP poll has been refuted?
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:35 AM
May 2016

I think it's been "refuted" in your mind, and that's fine. But spare me the intellectually dishonest psyops BS. It doesn't work.





 

timmymoff

(1,947 posts)
5. But she's been vetted
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:32 AM
May 2016

how can this be happening? Is she responsible for her low trust numbers or is it someone else's fault? Seems it always is someone else's fault. Iraq war vote.. she was mislead etc. Never can she be held accountable for her triangulation or lack of trust. It's her turn damn it !

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. why are you trying to hang you hat on that info, as if it were a disqualifier?
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:36 AM
May 2016

there are many more aspects to governing and Hillary apparently is scoring very well in all of those other areas, so much so she is ahead by over 3,000,000 votes and hundreds of delegates...how do you account for that?

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
16. what are her qualifiers?
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:13 AM
May 2016

Health care reform?
We cant.
we may need to reform the reforms in place.
Foreign policy experience?

Billionaire friends around the world?

what do you think makes her the best bet for the Democratic Party?

none of that lesser evil stuff, and if you only have SCOTUS

spare me.

she stands with Brock.

Cosmic Kitten

(3,498 posts)
10. you wonder why she has negatives?
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:44 AM
May 2016

L O L

First off, this is DU...
a tiny insignificant democratic website
in a dark corner of the interweb
which has virtually no influence on
popular opinion.

At least that's what I see repeated
here time and time again.
It's frequently considered an isolated *bubble*
that bears no resemblance to the mainstream.

Second, Hillary's YUUUGE lead
in votes <sarcasm> is suspect due
to an ongoing series of primary irregularities.
(See also: Baltimore decertifies election results)

Third, nothing violates the *will of the people*
more than SUPER DELEGATES.

Super delegates ONLY purpose
is to thwart the *will of the people*.

Super delegates have always been intended
to ensure that the *Establishment* candidate
gets the nomination.

Lastly, Hillary is her own worst enemy.
The hubris, poor judgment, her
tone deafness and obliviousness to
wealth inequality is the root of the criticism
of her positions.

As Jon Stewart suggested, maybe she is
an empty shell to be filled with whatever
the *pragmatic* position du jour happens to be

Supporting Hillary is supporting a Trump presidency

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
7. Well, trump's lies are still relatively inconsequential.
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:33 AM
May 2016

They hurt feelings and embarrass us, but so far we can't lay any economic collapses or war casualties at his feet.

He's probably going to get a few people killed without ever being president.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
14. glad to see you walking that back
Fri May 13, 2016, 10:51 AM
May 2016

he is a dangerous, egomaniacle, ignorant, buffoon and you were attempting to portray him as harmless.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. Trump's lies are relatively inconsequential because he is unaccomplished.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:09 AM
May 2016

He has no business near any sort of political power on that basis alone. If he ever took elected office, I have no doubt he would be a danger to us all.

And yet Hillary Clinton cozies up to the very people who tried to kill our economy, and who definitely did kill hundreds of thousands. Her lies aren't just dangerous; they have already wrought terrible harm. The best I can say for her on these points is that she has been a follower instead of a leader.

What do you think needs walking back?

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
20. Potentially more harmful than anyone named Clinton or Bush.
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:19 AM
May 2016

So far, he's mainly just a privileged blowhard.

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