I'm not a NEW DEMOCRAT-are you? Some history about the NEW DEMOCRATS is needed.

An example of how, as Ralph Nader put it, the two major parties are two sides of the same corporate coin.

I worked my way through college by having a union job and going to school part time, paying my own way as I went. It took a long time, but I graduated without any debt. It saddens me to work with young people now who are going to graduate so deep in debt that they will spend most of their adult lives trying to pay it off. I've explained to some of them that when I was a kid, a third of workers were represented under union contracts. Now it's less than 8%. Also I've discussed with them that, in today's dollars, in 1968 minimum wage was approaching $12/hour. But that was for teenagers working in fast food, most Americans were doing better than that. Today a large portion of workers make less than that. Most of these young people I'm talking to are listening. I know this because they're voting for Bernie Sanders. That gives me some hope.

FDR policies are what worked for the 99% THe DLC, BLue Dog Third Way Neo-Dem policies only work for Wall Street and the 1%

The Toilet has been flushed and we will be circling the bowl for the next 4 years regardless of what happens from this point on.

None of this Third Way, Blue Dog, New Democrat poppycock for me.

This is silly gibberish that almost nobody here or anywhere that I know of is associated with - if pols aren't into it, who is?

They are "moderate, pro-growth democratic congressmen" and presumably backers of those congressmen. What do you mean by "nobody is"?

Thompson diverted it to the military-industrial-intelligence communities.

"Moderate" is another useless euphemism as you well know, Doctor J.

Jumped the shark with this one.

This just shows how out of touch some people are at this whole DLC Third Way triangulation b******* hogwash that nobody gives a flying f*** about.

In fact I automatically write off anybody who talks about this stuff as a conspiracy theorist type of person who can't be taken seriously. So do whatever you want don't expect anybody to give a care.

Nobody!

truth.

Write me off all you want-that doesn't change facts that well indoctrinated reactionaries dispute to this very day. Here's one for everyone that loves the truth, Fritz Gustave Anton Kraemer influenced US policies and policy advisors for many decades and his influence is still profoundly evident-shared with all centrist/right groups of leaders including Lansdale, Kissinger, Haig, Perle, Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld and several policies held by NEW DEMOCRATS.

For those of you who never heard of him here are some informative links beginning with a couple of his obituaries.

Fritz Kraemer (November 10, 2003 UK Telegraph)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/1446315/Fritz-Kraemer.html

Fritz Kraemer (The Guardian November 12, 2003)
http://www.theguardian.com/news/2003/nov/12/guardianobituaries.usa

Fritz G. A. Kraemer (Wikipedia)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_G._A._Kraemer

Ideology of Fritz Kraemer was at the Heart of Wartime Policy from Vietnam to the Present (Nixon Tapes.org)
http://nixontapes.org/kraemer.html

Kraemer was a member of LeCercle. Look it up for yourself-it's a real organization just like Bohemian Grove is real. Real Nazis, including war criminals, were given identities and employment as "Americans" working in "national security". This expanded to offspring and social networks over time. This is fact, not CT. It pays to be well-informed in this day and age, doesn't it?

Or just stick to your guns and kill the messengers.

Most people have the sense to avoid commenting in these silly threads. I will in the future - enjoy your desolate island.

I've recently been getting angry pushback for using the term neoliberal - as if it were a slur rather than an actual term describing economic policy

You have NO idea how very, very many of us Old School Democrats are still alive AND very active!! Here in FL we've actually formed a group called The Progressive Democratic Coalition that has been formed to go up against so many Democrats who vote RIGHT ALONG WITH so many Repubs! This is a KNOWN fact down here!

The group has been formed and went through the COMPLETE process of being formed and many counties have elected President's on down for each county!

After THEY (the Democrats here) saw that this was a genuine LEGAL coalition THEY tried everything they could to eradicate the movement! They lost their bid to shut us down and it's growing more and more as time goes by. There are monthly meetings and delegates elected to go to the DNC Convention.

WE ARE the people who are FED up with the DLC/Third Way types and getting this up and running has been met with a GREAT DEAL of OBSTRUCTION from the State Democrats down here. Obama endorsed DWS you known and he also endorsed Patrick Murphy for Rubio's Senate seat. He was a Republican until 2012! THESE two are the people Obama supports!

Murphy actually backed Republicans for most of his life and supported Mitt Romney for POTUS. He backs the Keystone Pipeline4and OPPOSES tighter regulations on FOR-PROFIT Universities, the U.S. Department of Educations is for MORE regulations on the Universities. AND he considers himself a BILL CLINTON Democrat and moderate of fiscal issues. Has gotten many $$$$$$ from DNC to help him win.

He also voted AGAINST the Ozone Standard Implementations Act of 2016! And there's much MORE that one could find that shows that he's quite a right wing Democrat! So yea, NOT much like what I've grown up with as a Union supporting Democrat. I also don't think he supports UNIONS in the past! He may "say" he NOW supports them!

He would MOST DEFINITELY align himself with The Clinton DLC/Third Way Dems. and therefore is getting all the $$$$$ they're throwing his way and has a great deal of money to "play" with!

I WILL NOT vote for him! If THIS is what YOU WANT as YOUR voice in Congress then YOU are supporting issues that Democrats were against before THE CLINTONS began to change the Party!

I think y'all overuse silly "tags" to slander people you don't like.

It's just my opinion, no need to toss shit-fits over it.

You are making a fool of yourself.

you should do a little research.

I've been reading these ridiculous childish infantile accusations for 15 years.

The childish name calling doesn't work any longer. People like yourself have immunized people from said terms by overusing them and using them as a pejorative. So, you've been hoisted upon your own petard.

Try imagining life for those of us who live in the real world.

In addition to being a lifelong Democrat, bobthedrummer has been on DU since DU was new. He's never dumped on someone for disagreeing with him, even with those who are less than civil.

Here's an excellent example of what bobthedrummer is all about:

It's time for another Bush/Nazis thread

A pretty brave position to take in 2003, considering how 90-percent of America -- including a sizable chunk o' DU -- dropped politics to swear allegiance to Bush and Cheney.

Applying the Principles of War to Information (Commander Greg Rowe, USN via Air University Maxwell AFB 2006 pdf)

"The author examines how the accepted Principles of War apply to the use of information content in an open media environment, and the need to address public perceptions as a necessary aspect of engaging and defeating an enemy force."

http://www.au.af.mil/info-ops/iosphere/iosphere_win06_rowe.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20040329063018/http:/www.ndol.org/ndol_ci.cfm?kaid=103&subid=111&contentid=250759


DLC | New Dem Of The Week | August 5, 2002
New Dem of the Week: Hillary Rodham Clinton
U.S. Senator, New York




Go to link to see picture of Hillary standing at podium with banner reading:
www.ndol.org
Democratic Leadership Council
New Democrats Online


The Clinton Foundation now holds the DLC records.
Here's info from when they acquired them.


http://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2011/07/dlc-records-to-clinton-foundation-037215

DLC records to Clinton Foundation
By BEN SMITH 07/05/11 09:52 AM EDT




Here's the Clinton Foundation partnering with Al From to host a lecture by him about Bill Clinton and the New Democrat philosophy and principles.

https://www.clintonfoundation.org/get-involved/take-action/attend-an-event/new-democrats-and-return-power-author-al



They were definitely "into it."

Just to angrily "tag" our likely nominee with some stupid label that fits a narritive you're intent on pedaling.

I did not create the narrative.

The Clintons and From created the label and put forth their ideas under that branding. It even went global, with Tony Blair labeling himself as "New Labour" and pointing to his similarity to the Clinton "New Democrat."

The history is there, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.

back at ya. I'll assume you kicked this, too hard to determine on phone.

People are people, I understand how people want to tag those they disagree with, it makes it easier to dehumanize them/name call.

WHOOSH!!

(I know you're just attempting to make it personal since you can't counter my point in a reasonable way)

Clintons were founding members and these days it seems nearly impossible to find a New Deal Democrat. The tenets of The New Deal are openly mocked on this site.

(of the Kochs) website. They changed it a bit when the primaries started, but it used to proudly boast that it eschewed that silly old ideology thing, and was eager to work hand in hand across the aisle. And we all know what that results in. Doing what the GOP wants to do.

I won't be voting for any of these politicians, if the occasion arises. evidently there is a Senate version of this group, and "my" senator, Bill Nelson (DINO-FL), belongs to it.

http://newdemocratcoalition-kind.house.gov/

They love them some TPP.

Myron Buchholz
http://buchholzforcongress.org

I hear you!

us who live here in FL are going to have TWO, not ONE Right Wing Democrat! I've been to many rallies throughout my time here in Florida during elections and one thing I've always noticed, for the MOST part, is the BILL NELSON ALWAYS tries to be there to support WHOEVER it is. Especially during Primaries and Presidential Elections. I have wished many times he would have a strong opponent to run against him!

Obama threw his support in for DWS and Patrick Murphy, a Repub until 2012! He supported Mitt Romney for POTUS then turned around and said he got fed up with THE TEA PARTY!

I can't vote for Tim Canova because it's the 18th District and not mine. As usual here in MY County it will be a Repub. and the one that's really a piece of work "car salesman" Vern Buchanan!

I do realize that Alan Grayson has been dogged by some bad press, some that actually are not true but very few believe this, I WILL vote for him. He has been outspoken and most see him negatively, but he has worked to get legislation passed to help the of us who aren't included in the Greed that's taken over this Party.

I think Patrick Murphy and Bill Nelson will be really Super Buddies all the while giving the "appearance" of being something other than DINO's. I actually am worried that Murphy will lean even MORE TO THE RIGHT! Given that he voted AGAINST regulations of the For-Profit Universities and the Ozone Bill very recently. Also is in FAVOR of Keystone Pipeline unless he's recently changed his mind. He's gotten lots of money from Goldman Sachs and other PACS and is heavily funded with lots of cash on hand. He's the "darling" favorite and I fear he will get elected because he's been hand picked by DWS and Democratic Congress Critters.

But, the Democratic insiders will make sure they get ALL the help needed so they deliver for Hillary. I've not had much respect for Bill Nelson ever.

Bob Graham may not have been as liberal as some of the Democrats back during his time, but he DID fight for us here in FL AND has been trying for quite a few years to get the 28 pages released for ALL to see. I felt he was a good Governor and Senator... but I think once again he's been shut down.

This DEM2 person is trying to bait everyone here by his rather silly retorts to anyone who disagrees with him. I'm not going to take the bait as the arguments are rather silly at best. But, it is what it is and I've been in the trenches for decades and have seen this before. Only this time so many here can't see certain handwriting on the wall.

Nuff said!

daughter. She is quite a DINO.

Grayson - really - I don't care enough about bad press to vote for a DINO like Murphy. Not even part of my thought process, really. I care about the issues which affect me and everyone else. And I trust Grayson to represent me more than I would even begin to trust Murphy, who is a New Democrat. Shiny new.

Actually, I think overlooked your Graham's comment because I only brought him up because of what I remember about him. My husband and I have lived here since the 70's (revealing my age LOL) and HE was born in Tampa which makes him a native of FL. Some ARE left anyway. Only reference THAT because it verifies just how long I've been in the trenches as an activist and have lots of memories about MANY politicians.

MY HOW FLORIDA HAS CHANGED! Not that it was ever a bastion of liberalism in the way that I am, but I recall times when I wrote to BOB Graham and he always replied and tried to explain the reasons why he voted for certain legislation. One of my pet peeves way, way back was WHY did we send so much money to Israel because by the 80's they certainly had established themselves and had become very able top defend themselves from the Palestinians by that time. Regardless of what upheaval there is between them in that region. Now, under Netanyahu my feelings about how he runs the country has upset me quite a bit. He's quite the WAR HAWK, but this this issue isn't why I'm replying.

Back to the subject at hand and how I've seen the evolution of the Democratic Party of today and what's it's become is very DISTRESSING to say the least. I understand that we always must accept changes in society and remember the struggles of the past and how "we the people" had to stand up and fight for out rights. Women and people pop color couldn't vote, abortion was a back alley way of life, civil rights was a horrible fight that's NEVER gone away... and so many more issues that need not be listed.

But, it was THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY who I felt was more open to the rights and causes of the ordinary person. This has changed dramatically for me now and it's THIS election that has shined a very BRIGHT NEON light on what it's become. What's more, it's now seems THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY I knew has become one that has astounded me because it seems they would rather WE SHUT UP AND SIT DOWN and do as they want!

In no way is Bernie Sanders who they've made him out to be. They've done a DAMN GOOD job and have gone out of their way to make him seem like some ridiculous radical mad scientist and have completely ignored how very much he's always aligned himself with Democrats and fought for our issues from WAY back.

I can recall the time when BARNEY FRANK was a pariah and the likes of Paul Wellstone were viewed as radicals. No one will ever know the "truth" about the air plane crash, which actually happened on my birthday.

This Democratic Party even turned against those like Russ Feingold. A time when Barbara Boxer & Nancy Pelosi were those we chose to help fight The Democratic fight. Patrick Leahy always seemed to speak out loudly and who can ever forget Robert Byrd? These are just a few of the names who at one time would have EAGERLY embraced "a Bernie Sanders" and saw him as one to restore rights that so many of us have lost. Bernie Sanders is in fact less radical than Barney Frank once was!

Demographically I'M supposed to be a true Hillary supporter, a white older woman! Ain't no way! I wonder how many here know that Gloria Steinem was very much against Hillary Clinton?

I've been tempted many times to ask the age of these rabid Hillary supporters but have decided it doesn't matter anymore, just as TRUTH and FACTS no longer seem to matter. OKAY, I've ranted on for way too long, might have something to do with the fact that I won't feel comfortable doing so after tomorrow.

I'll still stand and fight the fight of "WE THE PEOPLE" as I always have... Bernie has rejuvenated so many of us who thought we would NEVER see any Senator fight for us again like he has. So I leave you with this...
AND also...

just some feelings that linger on.

I wondered why they were promoting what I called a nonsense fairy tale that one can be liberal and conservative at the same time on political and economic policy. It is the oxymoron equivalent of that other obfuscating phrase this group tried to sell beginning around 2010 along with that both parties are the same, let's have one party dialog promoted on all political discussion sites considered to lean liberal.

New Deal, liberal FDR-JFK-LBJ Dem. here.

I need NO galvanizing, aggrandizing or legitimacy to stake my claim: I speak for myself.

I have been forged in the fires of stolen campaigns, tempered in the echoes of unfair elections and sharpened by the blood of those who had their votes cast out.

I don't ask if the Democratic party will accept me.

I ask if the Democratic party is *ready* for me?

counties, Bernie Sanders won 71 of them in April. Thanks for your "input".

Awkward, as I repeated his campaign promise to put Main Street ahead of Wall Street.



Even my Republican neighbors expected him to follow up on that promise. As most of us work for a living, none I know like Wall Street better. Down the road, a bit, the neighborhoods are filled with trust fund babies, though.

forgive him a little. The body of his tenure is pretty exceptional, something we wont see again for 4 yrs

Detailing how we went from the party of the working people to the party of the money people.

I guess it is worth repeating. Good book anyway, I am currently reading it.

What Ever Happened to the Party of the People?' for an excellent narrative of the Democratic Party's conservative transition since the 1980s.

proud of him, but also wish others here would read it too. I'm sure they don't dare. An eye-opener non-the-less.

I currently am reading it and at the Bill Clinton part of the book.

Maybe I'll form my own party with blackjack and hookers, in fact forget the party.

Proud FDR dem. Pro Union, pro life, pro woman, pro single payer, free education. Pro clean energy.

FDR Liberal Democrat here, now and forever ...

New Democrats are Quislings ... GOP Wolves in DLC Clothing ...

There is a price to pay for their fraud ...

It's sickening to me to see how this site has changed so much - from utterly rejecting the Republican-lite policies of the new triangulating Dems to cheering them on and being so willing to chip away at the legacy of FDR

No thanks, I like the party much better now

Long after segregation which we addressed, not the fuck the middle clas party of today with all its lies.

No one is advocating a return to segregation in the Democratic party. But some of us are advocating a Democratic party that would have never sold out American workers by outsourcing their jobs with NAFTA and TPP-like trade agreements (such as the Clintons and Obama have advocated). We'd like to return to a time when Democrats didn't tell union members one thing and Wall Street contributors something else. We're advocating that education and healthcare should be public goods. We're advocating basic social justice, and that includes eliminating unfair treatment, from the police, employers, government officials, in the military etc., based on racism and other forms of discrimination.

National Level in a more Conservative environment (their ideas, not mine)...

Even a lot of lefties threw their hands up and said, "we have to try something..."

That's the environment Clintonism was born in... not 'solely' New Democrat, or DLC but 'Pragmatic'...

A more negative way to think of it is starting out left and triangulating your way out from there.

This proved very effective in the beginning era of the 24hr news cycle and instant data feedback (polling).


But fast forward the the present: The multiplication of the media has led to a massive fracturing of the media. Like taking a hammer to a lens, or a crystal each tiny piece not focuses on the world. Often, that view can be warped, or distorted.

Media and public opinion have sped up even more. Who needs political parties when you can share your instant opinion on DU, Free Republic, Facebook, or Twitter? Also, political parties now cannot control access to cash $$$. Obama '08, '12, Dean '04 and even Sanders '16 have shown how powerful 'crowdsourcing' campaigns can be.

Big Data continues to make the world of poltics more binary. With the 2000 and 2010 censuses, reapportionment has led to a level of gerrymandering never experienced before in our history. Literally if you want a Mickey Mouse shaped district centered on Orlando that X% majority Republican, the software can make it so. Consequently, in Congress and as a country we have become more and more polarized. No one has to speak, or persuade as they don't need that side to get elected.

There, quite literally, is NO MIDDLE THERE anymore. Welcome to the world of binary politics...

I've been aware of the faces behind the NEW DEMOCRATS from day one, and I've always known we were not on the same page.

The word "liberal" was used in an effective derogatory way in 1988 by HW Bush against Dukakis. They had the Democratic party completely on the run by the end of the 80's. Why do you think the word "progressive" is used for the last 25 years and not "liberal."
The original progressive movement was in the early 1900's. Probably most national Democratic politicians have been influenced by the effects of Reaganism, since the easy recipe for GOPers to win elections was the call the Democratic opponent "a tax and spend liberal", with an emphasis on tax-- with the not too subtle meaning that the Democrat was going to take your money.

Reagan ended the liberalism that started with FDR. Progressives have been waiting for the counter movement for a long time. Bernie is trying to get if off the ground.

Keep this thread alive, add to it.

Forces that torture and murder organizers?

They and their masters get $$$$$$ and that is all that matters.

http://www.ushistory.org/us/49f.asp

I'd add the NEW DEMOCRATS as Radicalized Roosevelt Critics at this point of US history-would you?

and they are not democrats.
H will only continue it.,

Their policies have been devastating to the Democratic Party and to the country at large. Telecommunications Act, NAFTA, Crime Bill, deregulation of Wall Street and more. What a ridiculous legacy.

And the more rightward they go, the crazier the Republicans get. Witness Trump and the rest of those jokers.

We need to drift way back towards the Progressive roots our Party had in the mid-1900's, the day's of FDR and those after him. The Democratic Party held majorities in both houses for the large majority of those years and passed so much meaningful legislation, including regarding Social Security and Medicare.

No NEW DEMOCRATS for me, and if our candidate or candidates are one, they should get back to being Progressive if they want to beat Donald Trump.

JFK Continued the New Deal as the New Frontier

The peaceful exploration of space was the best thing to happen to jobs in history. At its peak, 400,000 Americans were employed in the Apollo Project.



Imagine if President Kennedy had lived, where the nation would be today? I believe, if we could figure out how to the moon and back, we could face any problem on earth and solve it -- from ending hunger, poverty and ignorance to creating a lasting peace.

Problems today's GOP considers intractable (see Poppy Bush inaugural "More will than Wallet" such as joblessness, poverty, crime, would be tackled, instead of ignored, like they've done with public education. And the treasures accumulated since would be used to make life better for everybody on earth instead of sitting in a secret Swiss bank account.

But, no. The conservatives killed the New Deal after LBJ and the Great Society. For the space program, it started with Nixon. Instead, they gave the store away to War Inc, who sank the national treasure into the "Money trumps peace" crowd.

Instead of neoliberalism and all its attendant AUSTERITY, We the People need -- and DESERVE -- this kind of Big Think today in the worst of ways.

Frank Zeidler (Wikipedia page)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Zeidler

I WILL NEVER BE OR SUPPORT A "NEW DEMOCRAT", THAT'S WHERE I'M COMING FROM TODAY.

What kind of a Democrat are you?

No, I'm not a "New Democrat". I want to vote for FDR. And if it hadn't been for Vietnam, LBJ would have been considered a progressive icon, voting rights, civil rights, war on poverty. Whenever I engage Clinton's supporters in debate, they seem incapable of processing any of this. They charge that Bernie Sanders isn't a "real Democrat". I always answer that in terms of policies, he is closer to being what a Democrat should be than the Clintons or Obama. I voted for Bill Clinton twice. I voted for Al Gore and John Kerry, and I voted for Obama in 2008. By 2012 the fog lifted and I began to realize that I can't keep voting for the lesser evil, because when we do, it becomes progressively more evil each time. Bernie or Bust.

I'm a New Deal, Great Society Democrat. Not a "New" Democrat (or warmed over Republican), never will be.

a neo-liberal.

And no matter what label it's wearing, DLC, "New Democrat," "Third Way," "Centrist," or any other label, it's neo-liberalism: destructive to the 99%, destructive to the Democratic Party, the nation, and the planet.

For that I make not a single apology and I will give my support and vote accordingly. I will never sacrifice the core FDR Democratic principles of the Greatest President in the history of this Nation. Neoliberals will not change my mind, nor will the skeery skeery boogyman driving the clown car.

I long for the liberal, progressive party.

There was nothing wrong with the Original Democrats that necessitated the existence or creation of New Democrats.

Chan790, OD for life!

Hell yeah!

http://www.ndp.ca/platform

No way, not me.

will NEVER UNDERSTAND any of it! Those of us who have been Democrats BEFORE they came along have been trying for years to open people's eyes.

BUT, now so many Congress Critters rolled over and decided NOT TO FIGHT for us or THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY that used to be!

then you're probably not a real Democrat at all, even if you've voted a straight Democratic ticket your entire life

eom

with a healthy dose of Farmer-Laborite thrown in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minnesota_Farmer%E2%80%93Labor_Party

If I were a millennial, there wouldn't anything worth joining. Crazy repubs and corrupt dems -- who needs that?

not we, the people senz...

posted counterattacks in defense of that great President and his leadership. Not so much anymore...

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In the fullest Phillip K. Dick context

his economic policies are "so mainstream" he'd be considered a moderate Republican in the 1980s.

Didn't care much for them in the '80s either.

To beat the repugs we only had to become repugs.

Turned 21. However, I campaigned for JFK in 1960, when I was just 15 years old.

Now, Bernie Sanders is a new Democrat, just since 2015.

You know what the DLC was about, what New Dems are about, and what triangulation is.

Fact: I have been a registered Democrat, active in third-party organization, since 1966.

Fact: Bernie Sanders has been a Democrat since 2015.

Who is the new Democrat?

Facts, not labels.

Since its founding in 1828 by Andrew Jackson, a slave-holding, Native American land stealing, former U.S. Army General who shot several people in duels, killing one, the Democratic Party has always had a progressive/liberal wing, a conservative wing and a majority center.

Democrats.

Making the liberal coalition bigger is the only way to pass more liberal policy. Stop attacking the liberal coalition.

When they were doing Welfare Reform because there was some fraud in the system it seemed so cruel to hurt the 90% who legitimately needed help.

We knew the optimistic language about NAFTA was misleading. They said they'd be raising wages in other countries and bringing their environmental standards up to ours. They called those against NAFTA old fashioned, lacking understanding of the global economy.

They also pretended privatization of government services would reduce corruption and make them more efficient. The opposite has happened and I hope we can de-privatize military services and our prison system and our for-profit healthcare system.

I am more of a New Deal Democrat and was hoping we would push for FDR's Second Bill of Rights. And strengthen union power after Reagan had crushed it.

I voted for President Obama instead of Hillary last time because during the campaign he sounded like he would support our unions, push for Medicare for All, and bring us out of the Bush Wars.

I thought the Bush Crash provided a great opportunity to push for Medicare for All because at least then people devastated by financial losses and the ailing economy would not have to face medical bankruptcies. And I was between jobs at the time and went out there with protesters, as we'd been advised, to "make him do it" calling for single payer.

I voted for Bernie in our primary because we need much more dramatic change than New Democrats have offered. We need radical action on climate change. We need Medicare for All quickly because we have needed it since NAFTA and with climate change bringing in more problems.

I remember hating that "New Democrat" term at the time. Making a show of reducing the size of government to appease Republicans just fit into their propaganda that government was bad. Instead of going New Deal and showing how our taxes could benefit all of us with universal healthcare, stronger public education and free public universities and government services accountable to the people, not private profit. And stronger unions to support unions to protect us against the income inequality that pro-corporate policies create.