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Vote2016

(1,198 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 05:35 PM May 2016

"Neoliberal" - favoring international trade agreements to benefit the corporate sector globally,

"Neoliberal" - favoring international trade agreements to benefit the corporate sector globally, deregulation of the banking and financial sectors, and reductions in government spending in order to enhance the role of the private sector in the economy (as with the movement toward private prisons).

"The Clinton Administration embraced neoliberalism by pursuing international trade agreements that would benefit the corporate sector globally (normalization of trade with China for example). Domestically, Clinton fostered such neoliberal reforms as the corporate takeover of health care in the form of the HMO, the reduction of welfare subsidies, and the implementation of 'Workfare'."

"The high rate (compared to Europe) of incarceration in the U.S. – specifically 1 in 37 American adults is in the prison system – heavily promoted by the Clinton administration, is the neoliberal U.S. policy tool for keeping unemployment statistics low, while stimulating economic growth through the maintenance of a contemporary slave population and the promotion of prison construction and 'militarized policing.'"

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"Neoliberal" - favoring international trade agreements to benefit the corporate sector globally, (Original Post) Vote2016 May 2016 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #1
Is there a candidate who advocates for "state ownership of the means of production"? I sorta like Attorney in Texas May 2016 #2
You got the cart before the horse nolabels May 2016 #13
Falsehood fallacy. LWolf May 2016 #3
Touché. nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2016 #4
lol Attorney in Texas May 2016 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #8
You're not lying? Baobab May 2016 #11
I haven't lost anything, LWolf May 2016 #14
Neoliberalism is massive privatization AgingAmerican May 2016 #6
Neoliberalism is global trade agreements, Wall Street and banking deregulation, privatization of Attorney in Texas May 2016 #7
you betcha, thats why she can't be for free anything. Baobab May 2016 #9
Of the whole world, no less. Baobab May 2016 #10
It is essentially extractive colonialism AgingAmerican May 2016 #15
Neoliberal basically believe in corporate feudalism AZ Progressive May 2016 #12

Response to Vote2016 (Original post)

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
2. Is there a candidate who advocates for "state ownership of the means of production"? I sorta like
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:05 PM
May 2016

the sound of that - which candidate is in favor of that policy?

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
13. You got the cart before the horse
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:06 PM
May 2016

The corporate agenda (which they have already accomplished) is for the business to own the government.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
3. Falsehood fallacy.
Sun May 22, 2016, 06:21 PM
May 2016
Perhaps the simplest form of fallacy is bare-faced lying, where the speaker deliberately tells something that is untrue, perhaps in the hope that the other person will not notice.

http://changingminds.org/disciplines/argument/fallacies/a_falsehood.htm

You are a terrible fencer.

Response to LWolf (Reply #3)

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
11. You're not lying?
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:47 PM
May 2016

Well, then you're not a neoliberal,

You dont know anything about neoliberalism if you're not lying now.

This is the most important time to lie.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
14. I haven't lost anything,
Sun May 22, 2016, 08:28 PM
May 2016

but thanks for your concern.

I don't know any "Betnie," but I do know that the candidate I support is not a Marxist, no matter what falsehood you want to promote.

Is that another spelling error, or are you deliberately calling Noam Chomsky "Chimsky?"

I like Chomsky and Klein more than any neo-liberal, and you are delusional.

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2016/apr/15/neoliberalism-ideology-problem-george-monbiot
http://www.britannica.com/topic/neoliberalism
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
7. Neoliberalism is global trade agreements, Wall Street and banking deregulation, privatization of
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:30 PM
May 2016

prisons and health care through HMOs.

Sound familiar?

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
9. you betcha, thats why she can't be for free anything.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:38 PM
May 2016

Its a theft from corporations of the low end customers. For example, people who cant afford regular insurance might be ble to afford a plan that shipped sick people overseas for care, similarly with education, instead of colleges increasingly unemployed people should be able to pay 2/3 as much and get e-courses. Also global services privatization will allow infrastructure projects to be done by the lowest bidding forms from around the globe, increasing profits dramatically. Either that or import doctors, nurses, teachers and construction workers from developing countries under the "Mode Four" provisions of IT A s
This is actually been the plan and negotiations have been going on for 15 years.

Read the links in the grey text below this text- in my profile text

Baobab

(4,667 posts)
10. Of the whole world, no less.
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

Google "progressive lliberalisation" its huge.. One Way! Global!

No return. Its like a six year old's approach to the future. We rich people will sneakily sign an agreement to give away YOUR rights forever, to each other, forever, ha ha. Fooled ya!

Seriously. Thats as good of an outline as any. Basically they say "money is everything"

AZ Progressive

(3,411 posts)
12. Neoliberal basically believe in corporate feudalism
Sun May 22, 2016, 07:48 PM
May 2016

Where the big corporations have power over all of society.

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