Jeebus.. how much is Hillary spending in California?

[basselope]

The Morgan Freeman spot is on every 5 minutes.

For someone who thinks she has already won, she is certainly pour a TON of money in Los Angeles.

[onehandle]

1. It's a GE spot.

The primary is over.

[Live and Learn]

3. Then why are you here? nt

[anotherproletariat]

8. Can't speak for everyone, but I'm here to occupy the time of the Sanders people with

whom I engage. If they are wasting time here, they are less likely to spend time out in the real world spreading disinformation.

[Live and Learn]

12. But it works both ways. Shouldn't you be out helping your candidate who appears to be hiding out?

[anotherproletariat]

13. Did 6 hours of canvassing yesterday...and maxed out my primary donations.

So I'm good.

[Live and Learn]

17. Oooh, 6 hours? You must be proud. nt

[anotherproletariat]

23. That's the time it took to finish my assignment. Would you like to know my weekly schedule?

Luckily, I am able to attend college without worrying about having to work, so volunteering for campaigns is my summer activity. I have found the best way to persuade voters is to show them videos of the riots at the NV convention, plus the audio of the threatening calls made to the NV DNC chairwoman. Thanks for the help Sanders people!

[Live and Learn]

25. Ha, I work full time, take care of house and family and have been campaigning for a year.

Let me know when you catch up.

[anotherproletariat]

26. You win. Too bad about all that wasted campaign time, though.

But really, not having to work is really nice too.

[Live and Learn]

28. I can see why you like the status quo. Too bad the rest of us won't be putting up with it for much

longer. Enjoy it while you can.

[anotherproletariat]

40. No one's satisfied with a stagnant government. I just like pragmatic leaders with substantive plans.

Trust me, you want wealthy Democrats on your side.

[Live and Learn]

68. Not the onew I have seen here. I'll pass. nt

[basselope]

19. You did neither.

[anotherproletariat]

24. Glad you know all. Too bad you didn't know you were backing someone with empty promises. nt

[basselope]

30. You confuse a promise for a goal.

And yes, I know all.

[anotherproletariat]

42. Well, his goal are worthwhile, but given our system of goverment, will take long-term planning

and smart, thoughtful leaders who are willing to compromise.

[basselope]

47. But, you need to start with a goal.

The problem (and this is the mistake Obama made with Obamacare) is he STARTED from the compromise and then got pushed even further back.

Clinton isn't even willing to go THAT far. She has promised no real advances, but just to keep building on the same flawed system. She wants to "use the tools of Dodd Frank" when in reality Dodd Frank is far too weak to be useful, by the time you are "using the tools" it is already too late.

We are going to "build on Obamacare", but Obamacare is a mess creating a two tiered health care system (much like the immigration reform would have done for workers). We shouldn't just tear Obamacare up, b/c it is better than nothing, but we need to keep it in place while we work on REAL reform.

Clinton has no discernible goals.

[LuvLoogie]

50. What happened to Single-Payer in Vermont? We can't ask Bernie for an analysis;

he's "not the governor."

[basselope]

52. You can't do single payer in a single state. It will NEVER work.

Maybe California could pull it off.. MAYBE... but the problem with a single state trying single payer is that you can't control costs unless you control the vast majority of the customers. Why would a pharmaceutical company give lower rates to a single state when it can charge its gouge prices to 95% of the population?

The fun comes when you have a single negotiator for the entire US population. NOW you can dictate how much a company can get paid for a service.

Single payer will only work on a MASS scale.

[riversedge]

54. Clintons March in Hometown Memorial Day Parade-and was in CA Thrus and Fri for several

campaign stops. You look foolish saying she is hiding out.


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I see groups of Hillary supporters--with their T-shirts as she goes by.

Clintons March in Hometown Memorial Day Parade

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Presidential hopeful Hilary Clinton marched in her hometown Memorial Day parade in a suburb about 35 miles north of New York City. The Democratic candidate was accompanied Monday in Chappaqua by Bill Clinton and New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo. (May 30)




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Bill and @HillaryClinton march in the Memorial Day parade in Chappaqua










and other photos posted by others on he thread:

[grasswire]

86. wow, that last photo.

Smug and entitled. Same look of disdain on both faces.

Ugh.

[reddread]

107. deep thinking

reminds me how I dont miss Jack Handy.

[Ash_F]

6. They are going to have to listen to Morgan Freeman every 5 minutes until November?

I know he is good but come on!

[DefenseLawyer]

7. She's running general election ads in California? Really? California is in play?

If she has to spend money to win California in the general she is, as the French say, "fucked". I really don't think that's the case.

[Garrett78]

74. I'm pretty sure Obama spent money in CA. And Kerry. And Gore. And so on.

Speaking to the millions of people in that massive state is important regardless of whether or not it's solidly 'blue'. Same goes for New York. Just as Republican candidates spend time and money in Texas.

[DefenseLawyer]

95. Show me.

I'm "pretty sure" you're wrong.

[Garrett78]

96. The Obama campaign spent more than $5.5 million in CA in 2008.

Link: http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/map/ad.spending/

You seriously think a candidate, regardless of party, isn't going to spend time and money in the most populous state in the US?!? Seriously?!?

[DefenseLawyer]

104. The 2008 California Primary was in February, part of "Super Tuesday"

Your handy CNN graph (which was linked to the Wikipedia page you obviously referenced) shows total spending from January 2007 to November 2008. If you had bothered to look you would see that there were actually no ads at all after the primary. Feel free to head back to Wikipedia and try again.

[HerbChestnut]

11. A GE spot a week before the CA primary? Sure...

Plus CA is a safely blue state in GE's. Why spend millions advertising there when that money can be used in swing states where it will likely have more of an impact on the outcome of the election. No, the message of the ad may seem like it's for a general election, but it's clearly aimed at helping Hillary in the primary.

[hootinholler]

44. A GE spot that originally ran in Feb.

She was that far ahead even back then that she only produced GE ads, or something.

[brush]

103. Why are Sanders supporters worried about Clinton spending money on TV ads?

Isn't that what you do in a campaign if you have the money?

[basselope]

16. And she feels the need to spend GE money in CALIFORNIA????

[Garrett78]

75. You don't think other Dem candidates have spent time and money in California?

You don't think Obama, Kerry, Gore or B. Clinton campaigned in California, the most populous state in the US?

Solidly blue or not, the candidates are going to campaign in California and New York and Washington and Oregon and so on. As well as Texas and Georgia and South Carolina and so on.

[basselope]

97. They didn't.

I haven't seen a presidential general election ad in California in the 20+ years i have lived here. Not one.

In fact, it has been a joke told at fundraisers. They are taking our money, but we don't even get to see the fruits.

Obama did spend over 5 million California, but that was in the PRIMARY.. not the general election.

McCain spent 50K (again, for the primary).

Now in 2012.... Obama spent nothing in California.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13829729-ad-spending-tops-583-million?lite

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13832916-state-by-state-ad-spending-updated-team-obama-leads-in-three-states-oh-va-co?lite

So.. no, democrats don't spend money in California for general elections.

[LanternWaste]

84. No doubt, you'll provide us with the precise amount the campaigns should spend in CA

No doubt, you'll provide us with the precise amount the campaigns should spend in CA and a measure of how those figures were arrived at, yes?

Or are question marks and cowered implications the most effective tool you have to communicate with?

[basselope]

99. Obama spent 0.

http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/12/13832916-state-by-state-ad-spending-updated-team-obama-leads-in-three-states-oh-va-co?lite


So 0 seems like the correct number for a democrat to spend in California for the GENERAL ELECTION.

[Loudestlib]

31. CA is purple now?

[Garrett78]

78. Because candidates only campaign in swing states, right?

[morningfog]

92. Telling that HIllary is already concerned about CA in the GE.

[msanthrope]

2. GE spot. Primary is over. nt

[basselope]

18. So California is in play in the GE??

[pmorlan1]

27. They said the same thing about Kentucky

[frylock]

46. A GE spot a week before the primary?

Please.

[davidlynch]

51. Wow Hillary's team is afraid she'll lose California to Trump? n/t

[msanthrope]

57. 50 state strategy. nt

[morningfog]

93. Yet, not a dollar spent in many of the states she recently lost to Bernie.

That angle doesn't hold up.

[JoePhilly]

4. Dead thread warning!!

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. I have no idea

but makes sense, go hard for Los Angeles.. we are ignored (blissfully so) in San Diego. But they are both going hard for CA, this is not a GE spot.

[hootinholler]

9. Is it this one?

[basselope]

20. Yeah... it's such a bad ad too.

[hootinholler]

34. That was made in Februrary

Yet people are claiming she's running it as a GE ad, when the ad is trying to make her look like someone else. Damn who just slipped my mind.

[1monster]

22. That is a really bad ad! Surely she can do better?

It has about as much excitement and passion as milk toast.

[Renew Deal]

81. How did Bernie's "exciting" NY ad work out for him?

A double digit loss

[senz]

55. Wow, what a phony, dishonest ad.

I think people can see right through it.

[passiveporcupine]

61. A little revised history there.

She couldn't pass the bar in DC, so she went back to Arkansas to marry Bill. It wasn't until he was governor that her legal profession started looking up.

But we don't want to talk about those things. It was Bill who helped Hillary move up, and without him, she would not be where she is today.

But we all know most people don't know her history and won't bother to look it up to verify things said in ads.

[hootinholler]

64. Well, I guess the Watergate Committee took a lot of time

I bet it was great training in how to effectively stonewall.

[LoverOfLiberty]

83. what motivates you Clinton haters

I just don't get it. She didn't pass the bar the first time she took it? BFD

BTW, your post is sexist.

[valerief]

85. I have a feeling you're young, because you have no idea what sexist means. nt

[LoverOfLiberty]

87. When you credit a woman's accomplishments to her husband

then yeah, its sexist.

And thanks, I'd like to think I'm young at heart.

[valerief]

105. Nope, because IN SOME CASES it's true. When you say any woman can't have accomplishments

without her husband, THAT'S sexist, but that's not what was said.

[LoverOfLiberty]

106. Wrong again!

How can it be that a Democratic website is so smitten with a candidate that his supporters defend sexism?

Unbelievable!

[valerief]

109. Oh, so young. You don't know what real sexism is. nt

[LoverOfLiberty]

110. Attacking the youth, even though I'm not

very unbecoming.

Methinks I hit a nerve.

[passiveporcupine]

88. Oh Christ...everything anyone says about Clinton is sexist

because she is a woman.

But...I will address the rest of your post, even if there is no point in addressing that absurdity.

She didn't try to pass the bar exam again. She just ran to a safe haven. And yes, it was because she was married to a governor, and then a President that she became well known enough to be where she is today. Not because she was his 'wife'...she could have been the husband and his wife could have been the governor and the president...it was because her 'spouse' was someone important and famous that she is where she is today. If their sexes were reversed, and she were the governor and the president and I said that about Bill, would that have been sexist? Yeah...I thought so.

Everyone knows Bill is a better politician than Hillary. She even admits that herself. He has something she does not have, and that's a way of connecting with people (not all people...he sure never connected with me).

Now, go back to your safe group and talk about how sexist we Bernie women are. Yeah...I'm a woman. I am not a sexist and I don't say sexist things about other women...sometimes being a woman is just the truth of a situation.

[LoverOfLiberty]

91. Your post is bunk top to bottom

Who are you to ascribe motives? Who are you to say she is only where she is at today because of her husband? What makes you think Bill is better than Hillary and what does it matter anyway?

Just because you are a woman doesn't mean you cannot be sexist.

Safe space....geez. Grow up.

[passiveporcupine]

94. Who needs to grow up?

I think maybe it's all the Hill supporters who are having a fit every time someone says they don't like Hillary, or they don't think she is presidential.

We have a right to our opinion, just as you do to think our "rights" are bunk.


Let me give you a hint about things being sexist. If you switch the sexes in a statement that someone says is sexist, and it then is no longer considered sexist...it was sexist to say it was sexist in the first place, just because it was about a woman.

[Renew Deal]

79. That's a good ad

[yallerdawg]

10. It's probably just a "girl thing!"

[Henhouse]

36. Nods at Y Dawg....they just don't get it...nt

[Metric System]

14. Optics. I'm sure she'd like to win CA on the same night she becomes the presumptive nominee.

[LexVegas]

15. She has moved on to the general. Hurts, huh? nt

[basselope]

21. And she fears California is in play in the GE?

Wow. She's even weaker than I thought.

[LexVegas]

32. Imagine how weak Bernie is. Couldnt beat her.

[basselope]

35. Its amazing what happens when you keep people from voting.

[randome]

77. Or, as Bud Abbott kept saying: "Third base."

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[frylock]

48. Look how weak the OKC Thunder look.

[tularetom]

29. Times like this I'm glad I dumped the dish

I would have done an Elvis about the third time I saw that stupid fucking ad.

[Brother Buzz]

33. They started running last week during Jeopardy! in my market

The Sanders' campaign had been running ads during Jeopardy! for the previous ten days, then they switched. I wonder if the Clinton campaign got a deal on the vacated time spot.

[basselope]

37. It doesn't work that way.

[Brother Buzz]

38. How does it work?

[basselope]

43. The rates are set.

Since Jeopardy is a syndicated show you don't "buy time during Jeopardy" the way you would "Big Bang Theory" or a regular network show.

You just buy into a market at the general rate and your ads are distributed accordingly.

It's all based on CPM and what your budget is. If you set a higher budget for your ads, you are more likely to show up on higher rated programs.

They don't offer "discounts" on vacated spots. Sometimes, if they don't have enough ads at the general going rate to fill spots at a particular CPM, they will drop down to people who bought into a lower bracket, but that doesn't often happen in California markets.

Its very structured and simple. You can call whatever market you are interested in and ask for a rate sheet.

[Brother Buzz]

45. All I know is Sanders ads were replaced with Clinton ads

I thought it was noteworthy.

[basselope]

49. You buy in blocks.

Not really noteworthy, just shows that she is scared of the California market and felt the need to pour LOTS of money in.

[Brother Buzz]

53. The same block a state assembly candidate can afford to purchase?

[basselope]

56. Yeah, its a set CPM.

And then your ads are spread accordingly.

[Henhouse]

39. Hill had 30mil on hand on May 1st and BS had 6mil....could be simple as that..nt.

[jeff47]

59. Any money she doesn't spend in the primary she can spend in the general.

So...your claim is Clinton is terrible with money?

[onecaliberal]

41. Haven't seen even one in the heavy latino area of central california.

Bernie is running a great ad here though.

[riversedge]

58. Clinton going on air w new TV ads in California starting Fri: Morgan Freeman & Dolores Huerta

Clinton going on air w new TV ads in California starting Fri: Morgan Freeman & Dolores Huerta
Good. good and grand


Liz Kreutz ‏@ABCLiz 11h11 hours ago

Clinton camp going on air w new TV ads in California starting Friday, per an aide. (One features Morgan Freeman, the other Dolores Huerta)

[passiveporcupine]

60. She's getting nervous and is ramping up her California presence right now

She is spending a week in Cali, instead of her planned NJ events.

I think the polls are showing Bernie catching up to her.

[ucrdem]

62. Less than Bernie.

And he's still losing.

[basselope]

63. LMAO!

Guess you don't follow polls very carefully.

[jamese777]

65. Carefully follow the polls...

where people actually go to vote.

Democratic primaries cumulative popular vote as of May 30th
Hillary Clinton: 13,220,201 (55.4%)
Bernie Sanders: 10,196,828 (42.7%)

Clinton over Sanders by 3,023,373

Hillary Clinton: 1,770 pledged delegates
Bernie Sanders: 1,500 pledged delegates

[grossproffit]

66. Zing!

[basselope]

67. Those aren't polls, silly.

[jamese777]

69. People go to "the polls"

to vote. It was a play on words that went right over your head.

"play on words"
A word or turn of phrase with a double meaning, a pun or other humorous use of language.

[basselope]

70. No.

Just a very poorly executed attempt at .. something.

You seem to be confusing past and future..

[jamese777]

71. The Very Recent Past

Last Tuesday, May 24 in Washington state over 785,000 people voted in the Democratic Primary.
Hillary Clinton got 52.4% of the vote and Bernie Sanders got 47.6%.
http://results.vote.wa.gov/results/current/President-Democratic-Party.html

Now I will readily admit to not being able to know the outcome of future elections. But I will put 785,000 actual voters from a week ago up against any public opinion polling sample of between 800 and 1500 people.
There are nine primaries or caucuses remaining, let's see how this all plays out in real time!

[basselope]

73. LMAO!!!!

You mean the primary that about 10% of the people participate in b/c they know it doesn't count?!?!?

That's some funny stuff you peddle.

[randome]

80. As funny as you counting people who didn't vote.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

[jamese777]

90. Voters

200,000 people voted in the Washington caucuses while 785,000 people voted in the Washington state Democratic Primary.

[basselope]

101. Couldn't.

Fixed it for you.

[jamese777]

89. Soon

we'll all know who will have the last laugh. Time will tell!

And in the present...like today:
Hoover Institution Golden State Poll: Clinton +13 Over Sanders; Harris, Sanchez Lead Senate Field
Tuesday, May 31, 2016
Hoover Institution, Stanford University

STANFORD, CA: With California’s June 7 primary only a week away, a new Hoover Institution Golden State Poll finds Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump with large leads in their respective primaries but cautionary signs lay ahead and good news for Democratic U.S. Senate hopefuls Kamala Harris and Loretta Sanchez.

Hoover’s Golden State Poll, administered by the survey research firm YouGov and designed in conjunction with Stanford University’s Bill Lane Center for the American West, finds Clinton holding a 13-point lead over U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders (51 percent to 38 percent).
http://www.hoover.org/press-releases/hoover-institution-golden-state-poll-clinton-13-over-sanders-harris-sanchez-lead

[basselope]

100. LOL.

I get the last laugh, because there is 0 chance of Hillary becoming president.

[NCTraveler]

72. Because a win in Cali would be excellent momentum for her. nt.

[Renew Deal]

76. lol

[Gothmog]

82. I love that ad

[basselope]

102. Kinda a typical ad for her.. says nothing of value.

[Octafish]

98. It must be all the overflowing stadia.

I'd post a picture, but I couldn't find one.

[reddread]

108. this weekend those pictures will be everywhere

I just havent figured out what giant crowd causing event she will stand in front of?

maybe a Bernie rally, or the protesters can be filmed from behind and chromakeyed?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

111. SMH