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NWCorona

(8,541 posts)
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:53 AM Jun 2016

Another poll shows Sanders, Clinton even in California

"Less than a week before California voters head to the polls on Tuesday, the Democratic race between Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders is effectively tied in the state, according to the results of the latest Field Poll released Thursday, as reported by local media outlets, including the Sacramento Bee and San Francisco Chronicle.
Clinton leads Sanders 45 percent to 43 percent, with 12 percent undecided or unreported. In the last survey in April, Clinton led Sanders by 6 points — 47 percent to 41 percent. The results in the latest Field survey mirror those of the NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll out Wednesday evening, which showed Clinton with a lead of 49 percent to 47 percent.
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Sanders has devoted most of his resources to winning California, holding multiple events in the state in recent weeks as he looks to bolster his case with superdelegates at the Democratic National Convention. Both Hillary and Bill Clinton will return to the state carrying the largest delegate prize in the days leading up to the Tuesday vote.

While Sanders holds a double-digit advantage over those expressing no party preference (54 percent to 40 percent), Clinton leads by a slightly smaller margin among the nearly 8 in 10 likely Democratic primary voters who identified as Democrats (49 percent to 40 percent).
As has been the case in nearly every state and national poll, Sanders holds wide advantages with voters under the age of 40 and fwith irst-time voters, while Clinton leads among voters older than 40. Clinton and Sanders are within the margin of error among white, non-Hispanic voters (where Clinton leads 44 percent to 43 percent) and among Latino voters (Clinton 46 percent, Sanders 42 percent). Among African-American voters, Clinton leads by 21 points — 57 percent to 36 percent. But among Asian-Americans, Sanders leads 47 percent to 34 percent. In all instances, Sanders has either cut into Clinton's advantage with all groups or, as is the case with non-Hispanic white support, Clinton's level of support has slightly dipped.

Sanders voters indicated a higher level of enthusiasm for their candidate compared with Clinton voters, with 65 percent of those backing the Vermont senator saying they are enthusiastic about their choice compared with 45 percent who said the same of Clinton. And while Sanders' favorability numbers have largely held steady over the past several months in the survey, Clinton's image rating has dropped to 64 percent favorable in the latest survey, down 6 points from April.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/poll-california-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders-223810#ixzz4AQj4QySU

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Another poll shows Sanders, Clinton even in California (Original Post) NWCorona Jun 2016 OP
And California, like all other jurisdictions, MineralMan Jun 2016 #1
And he's not even competing in NJ firebrand80 Jun 2016 #3
Really? I didn't know that's how it works. NWCorona Jun 2016 #4
I'm quite certain that you do know. MineralMan Jun 2016 #7
Fair enough 😀 NWCorona Jun 2016 #9
Yup, he needs something in the 70% range to be a real threat, and he won't get that. But... thesquanderer Jun 2016 #6
Optics. frylock Jun 2016 #10
Optics don't trump delegates. MineralMan Jun 2016 #13
You know what does trump delegates? frylock Jun 2016 #14
Yah...whatever you say. You let me know when that happens, OK? MineralMan Jun 2016 #15
Oh, you'll hear all about it. frylock Jun 2016 #16
doesn't matter, hillary has won beachbum bob Jun 2016 #2
Keep telling yourself that. NWCorona Jun 2016 #5
Unless you have a flux capacitor and a DeLorean, she has not "won." lagomorph777 Jun 2016 #12
HRC can't afford any loss in Ca Skink Jun 2016 #8
Why not? taught_me_patience Jun 2016 #11
Look like its going to be close but that doesn't help Bernie. DCBob Jun 2016 #17
Don't worry--someone will unskew it soon enough!!! n/t QC Jun 2016 #18
How many polls have overstated Sanders support so far? reddread Jun 2016 #19
has anyone a quick answer? reddread Jun 2016 #21
None that I can find GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #24
She's going to do in CA like she did in KY LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #20
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MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
1. And California, like all other jurisdictions,
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jun 2016

allocates its pledged delegates proportionally to the election results. Both candidates will win some delegates. A tie does not help Bernie Sanders overcome Clinton's pledged delegate lead in any way. Even a small percentage win will not help him win a majority of pledged delegates nationwide. That's how the primary system works.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
3. And he's not even competing in NJ
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:58 AM
Jun 2016

Which kinda proves that he knows that it's all symbolic at this point

thesquanderer

(11,986 posts)
6. Yup, he needs something in the 70% range to be a real threat, and he won't get that. But...
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 10:09 AM
Jun 2016

...any win at all better positions him for his hail mary pass at the super delegates. And even that would probably require a lot more bad news for Hillary between now and the convention.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
13. Optics don't trump delegates.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:55 AM
Jun 2016

Never have. Never will. The only thing anyone needs to look at is the count of pledged delegates. That's what will decide the nomination, and nothing else.

If optics were how we elected people, we wouldn't need to vote.

But, we do vote. Most states already have voted. The pledged delegate count so far can be found at:

http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/D

You can look just at pledged delegates there or look at the totals with super delegates. It's your choice.

That site is the first place I'll go in the mornings of June 8 and June 15. It's the first place I go after every primary.

The numbers tell the story. How things "look" is a different matter. I have two pairs of glasses. One for close viewing and one for distant viewing. Those are my optics.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
2. doesn't matter, hillary has won
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 09:57 AM
Jun 2016

its only interest is to the media and sanders keep conning more money


its over

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. Unless you have a flux capacitor and a DeLorean, she has not "won."
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jun 2016

“It's tough to make predictions, especially about the future.” - Yogi Berra

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
17. Look like its going to be close but that doesn't help Bernie.
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:20 PM
Jun 2016

He needs a massive blowout in CA plus massive blowouts in the other remaining states. Its simply not going to happen.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
19. How many polls have overstated Sanders support so far?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:38 PM
Jun 2016

I would love to know.
(excluding exit polls, thanks!)

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
21. has anyone a quick answer?
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jun 2016

seems like a complicated question to research, but maybe someone has insight?
thanks!

LoverOfLiberty

(1,438 posts)
20. She's going to do in CA like she did in KY
Thu Jun 2, 2016, 12:52 PM
Jun 2016

Let her large lead slip while she's focused on the general, but swoop in at the last minute to eke out a win and deny Sanders his last gasp moral victory.

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