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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 08:08 AM Jun 2016

Obama, Clinton, Following Sanders' Lead on Expanding Social Security

Sanders campaign jumps on Obama's push to expand Social Security
Athena Jones
CNN

"I applaud President Obama for making it clear that it is time to expand Social Security benefits," Sanders said in a statement. "Millions of seniors, disabled veterans and people with disabilities are falling further and further behind on $10,000 or $11,000 a year Social Security," he added.

Sanders has long been advocating for an increase in benefits, a position that Hillary Clinton adopted earlier this year when she tweeted to Sanders, "I won't cut Social Security. As always, I'll defend it and expand it."

While campaigning in 2008, then-Sen. Obama often spoke about the need to strengthen and stabilize Social Security by raising the amount of income that is taxed, thereby providing more money for the program. He later agreed to a GOP-backed proposal to reduce benefits by changing how they are calculated as part of efforts to reach a so-called "grand bargain" on the budget. He abandoned that plan after failing to reach such a deal with congressional Republicans.

At a stop in Elkhart, Indiana, on Wednesday, where he touted his administration's economic policies, the President spoke not just of strengthening the program upon which millions of older citizens rely but of expanding it.

Although Sanders is unlikely to clinch the Democratic nomination, in recent months he has said he wants to have a large influence on the party's platform at its national convention in July, and Social Security is certain to be among the policies discussed.


Score one for progressives. Thanks Bernie.


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Obama, Clinton, Following Sanders' Lead on Expanding Social Security (Original Post) portlander23 Jun 2016 OP
That's a good thing. Obama or Hillary is more likely to get it done than Bernie. nt Jitter65 Jun 2016 #1
History shows that promises made by the corporate wing of the party during primaries can't be trust CentralMass Jun 2016 #2
That should be scripture. nt stillwaiting Jun 2016 #14
No, they've both talked about "expanding" Social Security for years. Sanders has been... George II Jun 2016 #3
Yes, I do recall that Obama had included Chained CPI in his budget proposal. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #4
Getting things done CentralMass Jun 2016 #7
Articles on President Obama and Hillary on SS. CentralMass Jun 2016 #13
Clinton is, of course, following his lead until she wins the nomination. BillZBubb Jun 2016 #5
4 years is a short period of time... timlot Jun 2016 #8
That is the 3rd way. Austerity for all except the 1% ers. nc4bo Jun 2016 #11
Quit crediting Bernie for something he's got nothing to do with. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #6
Just saying is all portlander23 Jun 2016 #10
Recent examples .. CentralMass Jun 2016 #12
But who do we actually trust to work their ass off in an attempt nc4bo Jun 2016 #9
And I TOTALLY believe campaign rhetoric. Skwmom Jun 2016 #15
So now they come out with "me too!". sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #16
For seniors: 100% medical, nutrition, housing, transit, and living allowance. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #17
That was Clinton's way before Sanders took ownership. seabeyond Jun 2016 #18

George II

(67,782 posts)
3. No, they've both talked about "expanding" Social Security for years. Sanders has been...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:28 AM
Jun 2016

....in a position to do something for 25+ years, what has he accomplished?

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
4. Yes, I do recall that Obama had included Chained CPI in his budget proposal.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:31 AM
Jun 2016

Not sure how that equates to "expanding" though, but it's something I guess.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. Getting things done
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9624560.html

This article discusses the many accomplishments of Bernie during his tenure as a Congressman and more recently as Senator. I'll put one passage about his efforts on saving SS up front and quote some more of his other accomplishments working for the people. The article has much more then I quoted.

^

In addition to concrete accomplishments like these, Bernie Sanders has used his time in Congress to significantly shift the political debate. Social Security is a good example: During 2009 and 2010, insiders in both parties were talking about cutting Social Security benefits.

In response, Sanders formed the Defend Social Security Caucus in the Senate and helped form a grassroots coalition of senior citizens, veterans, the disabled, women, and labor groups to oppose these proposed “bipartisan” cuts.

Those efforts helped dramatically change the political momentum. When Sanders offered an amendment opposing Social Security cuts in 2013 it passed the Senate by acclamation"

LOU ROCCO VIA GETTY IMAGES
As he has so many times in recent months, Barney Frank had some harsh things to say about Bernie Sanders — this time in a recent interview with Slate.com. Frank has endorsed Hillary Clinton (a fact neither he nor Slate interviewer Isaac Chotiner saw fit to mention), and has written several nasty, petty, and personal attacks on Bernie Sanders in his capacity as a Clinton surrogate.

He stayed true to form in his Slate interview, arguing that Bernie Sanders got little done on Capitol Hill. That’s become classic Clinton spin. She and her surrogates love to claim that Bernie Sanders is just a talker, while Clinton and her allies — despite her “centrist” leanings — are “progressives who get things done.”

Here’s the truth: Hillary Clinton got very little done during her eight years in the United States Senate, while Bernie Sanders amassed an impressive record of accomplishments in both the House and Senate.

Sanders began racking up legislative accomplishments in the House of Representatives, where a 2005 analysis of legislative data revealed that he had passed more amendments in the House than any other Member of Congress over a ten-year period. In 2005, Rolling Stone called him the “amendment king.”

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But as Politifact notes: “In comparison, Hillary Clinton passed zero roll call amendments during her tenure as a senator from New York from 2001-09.”

Readers who have been subjected to Barney Frank’s unsubstantiated trash talk should note this, also from Politifact: “Out of 419 amendments Sanders sponsored over his 25 years in Congress, 90 passed, 21 of them by roll call votes.”

Where has been Barney Frank been for 25 years? For Mr. Frank, and any other readers who might be unfamiliar with the Sanders record, here are some examples of his many accomplishments:

When Sanders was Chairman of the Senate Veterans Committee, it was learned that veterans were not receiving the medical care they needed in a timely fashion. Long waiting lists at the Veterans Administration led to a national scandal.

In response, Sanders built a strong coalition of veterans’ groups to back a comprehensive $21 billion bill that allowed the VA to hire more doctors and nurses, increase its operational staff, and ensure that veterans get the care they need. Republicans blocked that bill, but Sanders did not give up. Instead, Sanders worked with Republican Senator John McCain on a compromise deal that passed the Senate 93-3.

“It wasn’t a perfect bill,” Sanders says of the VA deal. “I would have written it differently, and John (McCain) would have written it differently.”

“But we got it done,” Sanders adds.

McCain agrees. “Negotiating with Bernie was not a usual experience, because he is very passionate and he and I are both very strong-willed people and we spend a lot of time banging our fists on the table and having the occasional four-letter word,” McCain told The Huffington Post. “But at the end of the day, Bernie was result-oriented.”

We’ll repeat that last phrase for Mr. Frank’s benefit: “Results-oriented.”

Frank told Slate that Bernie Sanders “has been in Congress for 25 years with little to show for it in terms of his accomplishments.”

Really? The VA has hired over 14,000 new doctors, nurses, and medical staff a result of Sanders’ work on that bill alone, and the backlog in disability claims has been reduced by nearly 90 percent.

“The Amendment King”

In 2002, Sanders introduced an amendment in the House that blocked the Bush Administration from implementing a rule allowing companies to cut the pensions of older workers by as much as 50 percent.

“Little to show”? That amendment protected the pensions of countless American workers. And, through compromise and negotiation, Sanders eventually passed another amendment that helped 130,000 IBM workers regain $320 million in pension benefits.

Sanders fought to control prescription drug prices long before many of his colleagues realized there was a problem. Unlike his opponents, many of whom seem to prefer talk to action, Sanders actually did something about it. How’s this for action? In 1999 he was the first member of Congress to take constituents across the border to Canada to buy low-cost prescription drugs.

Many of these constituents were breast cancer patients who were able to purchase their medications in Canada for almost one-tenth the price being charged in the United States.

As a member of Congress, Sanders introduced legislation to allow consumers to receive free credit reports and free credit scores. When Republicans refused to go along Sanders compromised and got a deal done.

“Little to show”? Today everyone in America can get their credit reports free of charge once a year, thanks to Sanders’ efforts.

Senate Action

Once in the Senate, the Sanders record of accomplishment continued. During the debate over the Affordable Care Act, Sen. Sanders worked with Rep. Jim Clyburn and won a deal which dramatically increased access to community health centers.

“Little to show”? These centers provide primary medical care, dental care, low-cost prescription drugs and mental health counseling to more than 24 million Americans.

After the Postal Service announced it was closing 15,000 post offices, Sanders rallied an ad hoc group of more than two dozen senators and reached a compromise: these post offices would stay open, but with reduced hours. That wasn’t what Sanders wanted, but the alternative was much worse.

In 2009, when milk prices plummeted, Sanders was able to win $350 million in additional aid for struggling dairy farmers many of whom were on the brink of bankruptcy. Very few experts on Capitol Hill thought that this amendment had a chance to pass the Senate. Many thought this amendment was pie-in-the-sky. But not only did it pass the Senate, it became law.

The provisions Sen. Sanders added to a 2009 climate change bill, and his efforts in support of that bill, led to $3.2 billion in energy efficiency grants to reduce greenhouse gas emissions that cause global warming. The program has made more than 86,000 buildings energy efficient, installed more than 9,500 solar energy systems, and created thousands of good-paying jobs.

In addition to concrete accomplishments like these, Bernie Sanders has used his time in Congress to significantly shift the political debate. Social Security is a good example: During 2009 and 2010, insiders in both parties were talking about cutting Social Security benefits.

In response, Sanders formed the Defend Social Security Caucus in the Senate and helped form a grassroots coalition of senior citizens, veterans, the disabled, women, and labor groups to oppose these proposed “bipartisan” cuts.

Those efforts helped dramatically change the political momentum. When Sanders offered an amendment opposing Social Security cuts in 2013 it passed the Senate by acclamation

"Here’s the truth: Hillary Clinton got very little done during her eight years in the United States Senate, while Bernie Sanders amassed an impressive record of accomplishments in both the House and Senate."

Sanders began racking up legislative accomplishments in the House of Representatives, where a 2005 analysis of legislative data revealed that he had passed more amendments in the House than any other Member of Congress over a ten-year period. In 2005, Rolling Stone called him the “amendment king.”

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
13. Articles on President Obama and Hillary on SS.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jun 2016
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/your-money/the-potential-effect-of-obamas-social-security-proposal.html

Budget Negotiating Chip Has Big Downside for Old and Poor
The Potential Effect of Obama’s Social Security Proposal

esident Obama has put Social Security on the table in an attempt to reach a bipartisan agreement on the federal budget deficit, a move that would hit the program’s beneficiaries when they are at their most vulnerable.

The president has proposed slowing the rate at which benefits increase over time, a change that would ultimately hit the oldest of the old, often single women, many of whom have probably exhausted any other savings. Many members of this group also face higher health costs, have little hope of working again and often live without the support of a life partner.

But advocates for retirees say that what is perhaps the most frustrating about all of this is that Social Security, which is self-financed through payroll taxes, does not contribute to the deficit. Yet it is being lassoed into the broader debate.

“With people facing an increasingly insecure retirement, this is no time to say, ‘Let’s cut Social Security,’ ” said Joan Entmacher, vice president for family economic security at the National Women’s Law Center. “It’s even more disturbing to be having a discussion about how much to cut benefits for people who already struggle to make ends meet — while some lawmakers insist that we can’t ask the wealthiest Americans and large corporations to pay more

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_56b3f533e4b01d80b245c04e

Why Progressive Groups Have A Problem With Clinton On Social Security
They are insisting on a red-line pledge not to cut benefits — and say her assurances fall short of that.
Preserving and expanding the New Deal Program has become a progressive litmus test, but Hillary Clinton will not rule out any and all Social Security benefit cuts.
Hillary Clinton refuses to rule out any and all benefit cuts to Social Security, angering leading progressive groups that have not endorsed a candidate in the Democratic primary — and prompting a new challenge from Bernie Sanders.

The issue has arisen as Clinton and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), her remaining rival for the Democratic presidential nomination, debate who has stronger progressive bona fides and progressive groups call for a red-line pledge not to cut benefits. "

BillZBubb

(10,650 posts)
5. Clinton is, of course, following his lead until she wins the nomination.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:46 AM
Jun 2016

Then Social Security will be back on the table in order to "save it." Same for TPP, Keystone etc. etc.

 

timlot

(456 posts)
8. 4 years is a short period of time...
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jun 2016

I'm sure she want to be re-elected and going back on the promises made in the primary would be a sure way of making sure that does not happen.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
11. That is the 3rd way. Austerity for all except the 1% ers.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:12 AM
Jun 2016

Death by a thousand cuts instead of the one big hack.

This is how they differ from the other party.

Stuff gets done just on a much slower scale, same owners.

That is how they roll.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
12. Recent examples ..
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 10:16 AM
Jun 2016

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/9624560.html

"Bernie Sanders has used his time in Congress to significantly shift the political debate. Social Security is a good example: During 2009 and 2010, insiders in both parties were talking about cutting Social Security benefits.

"In response, Sanders formed the Defend Social Security Caucus in the Senate and helped form a grassroots coalition of senior citizens, veterans, the disabled, women, and labor groups to oppose these proposed “bipartisan” cuts.

Those efforts helped dramatically change the political momentum. When Sanders offered an amendment opposing Social Security cuts in 2013 it passed the Senate by acclamation:

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/259264-warren-sanders-team-up-on-bill-to-hike-social-security-checks
Sanders, Warren introduce bill to hike Social Security checks

Sens. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) are teaming up on a bill that would hand Social Security recipients a $580 check and pay for it by trimming tax perks for corporate executives.

The progressive duo unveiled new legislation Thursday that would cut checks for millions of Americans that rely on Social Security benefits, weeks after the Obama administration announced there would be no cost-of-living increase to payments in 2016

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"At the very least, we must do everything we can to make sure that every senior citizen and disabled veteran in this country receives a fair cost-of-living adjustment to keep up with the skyrocketing cost of prescription drugs and health care."

Sanders has made expanding Social Security one of the signature issues of his presidential campaign, and has repeatedly called for taxing the wealthy to pay for an expansion of benefits.

Under his bill with Warren, Americans who receive benefits from Social Security, veterans benefits or equivalent state or local programs would receive a one-time payment. The pair noted that the check would equal 3.9 percent of existing benefits, the same percentage that CEO pay rose in 2014.

The senators want to pay for the supplemental payment by killing a tax code provision that allows companies to deduct a portion of executive salary, so long as it is “performance based.”

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
9. But who do we actually trust to work their ass off in an attempt
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 09:52 AM
Jun 2016

To make it so?

Really, really easy answer boys and girls.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. So now they come out with "me too!".
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 04:47 PM
Jun 2016

Obama is at the end of his term and won't be able to do
anything anymore.

HRC wants to get Bernie supporters on her side, but with
her the typical answer should be "cannot be trusted".

Alex4Martinez

(2,193 posts)
17. For seniors: 100% medical, nutrition, housing, transit, and living allowance.
Sun Jun 5, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

Other countries do it, so should we.

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