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Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:07 AM Jun 2016

I would Never Vote for Sanders Again

I once believed in Sander's bullshit. All of the nonsense about the election is massively rigged, an indictment is coming any day now, claiming that Clinton and Trump are essentially the same person. I believed it once but I have moved on from this bullshit. Sanders and his politically suicidal fans have lost all credibility. I wanted to believe he was different but he is just another egotistical politician that wants everything despite never earning it. I voted for Sanders when the caucuses came to my state. I waited in line for hours to cast my vote for the guy. It was a massive mistake. I'm not voting for this guy if he somehow steals the nomination or for any other reason. I can't stand listening to him for one more second. Sanders is everything that is wrong with politics. He's a demagogue that claims to be above the fray but really he is driven by ego and his own glory. He is willing to let this country burn if he can't have his way. Fuck that and I don't want to be part of any group that believes any of his bullshit.

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I would Never Vote for Sanders Again (Original Post) Doctor Jack Jun 2016 OP
Hillary lies about breaking govt rules that concern an FBI investigation but you trust her. Got it.. think Jun 2016 #1
And he still asks for my money? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #3
Issues still matter. America is the only nation that doesn't have universal healthcare out of think Jun 2016 #9
I should send him money to keep campaigning for important causes Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #13
Why did you support Bernie? Please do tell.... think Jun 2016 #16
His views, his claims of a positive campaign, not a big fan of clinton Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #24
"if he doesn't get what he wants" <---- This is called projection. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #64
To them, your message is like... dchill Jun 2016 #88
Howso? If Bernie had the pledged lead, I'd be calling for unity from my fellow Hillary... moriah Jun 2016 #126
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #119
Hillary has serious legal problems. She's also got electability problems. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #48
Excellent post! dchill Jun 2016 #95
It surprises each time I post or talk about this subject. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #115
"hope it is soon." dchill Jun 2016 #118
you're projecting something on him. maybe you expected him to be something different. Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #29
What has he done for people like me or for the democratic party? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #31
who is asking you to bow down and be grateful? you're just messin with our heads here Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #51
#BowDownBernie Fumesucker Jun 2016 #74
There's always a tell. MelungeonWoman Jun 2016 #147
I call bs. He is very much helping downticket federal and state liberals. merrily Jun 2016 #122
If you mean by trying to oust DWS LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #164
She needs to go, but, no, that's not what I meant. merrily Jun 2016 #168
weird reasoning NJCher Jun 2016 #129
Hillary kept 90% of down ticket money. lmbradford Jun 2016 #156
I like her better that she broke some rules, no really... the whole perfect person bit was tiring uponit7771 Jun 2016 #20
I like that she can hold her booze. grossproffit Jun 2016 #21
Could she hold my booze while I use the shitter? Then I might cut her some slack. floriduck Jun 2016 #155
So you're applauding Hillary breaking State Dept rules that have now got the FBI involved? think Jun 2016 #23
Yes, she should also drink a little bit too much a couple of times... pinch some guy on his ass uponit7771 Jun 2016 #34
Cool. Next she can take tons of money from corrupt banks and pretend it won't influence her think Jun 2016 #39
Nah, just vote for some corporations to have lawsuit preceding immunity... that's way worse no? tia uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41
Nothing like getting filthy rich taking money from banks that you did favors for as SoS think Jun 2016 #45
Yeap, make all the money she can ... just don't give them immunity for court proceedings and she's.. uponit7771 Jun 2016 #55
Awww, to be fair to Hillary, she was never perfect. merrily Jun 2016 #123
At one point I believed it too bravenak Jun 2016 #2
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #11
When? dchill Jun 2016 #78
Depends merrily Jun 2016 #91
Don't wear them, myself. dchill Jun 2016 #97
I may need them if the #BernieLostMe group make me laugh any harder. merrily Jun 2016 #103
July bravenak Jun 2016 #125
Why don't you link to those posts where you agreed so we can see the whole transformation? n/t FourScore Jun 2016 #4
Yeah, I'd to like to read his pro-Sanders posts, too. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #17
There are none... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #70
Bernie Butter posts are always bizarre. So far, not one BB can point to a series of posts JimDandy Jun 2016 #109
He's been here for years.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #112
Skilled at sarcasm, though. That has to count for something, doesn't it? merrily Jun 2016 #121
LOL JimDandy Jun 2016 #124
. merrily Jun 2016 #128
Laying a trap? dchill Jun 2016 #100
what was the catalyst for your turnaround? Hiraeth Jun 2016 #5
maybe it was all that time posting in the Hillary group without being banned, GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #140
lol .... I think I will just put it on ignore and be done with it. ~~ Hiraeth Jun 2016 #149
Oh poo .... Trajan Jun 2016 #6
I'm not saying you're a Hillary Truth-er, mozcram3 Jun 2016 #7
You use your first post to accuse others of being trolls? grossproffit Jun 2016 #14
Sanders is not saying any of this. Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #8
Aww Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #10
"claiming that Clinton and Trump are essentially the same person" dgauss Jun 2016 #12
What a great guy he is Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #19
I read through those links and your post still seems like nonsense. dgauss Jun 2016 #25
When you actually read what Bernie said in context instead of the headlines... aikoaiko Jun 2016 #93
Doctor Jack, I looked at Sanders early on also Hortensis Jun 2016 #146
Again? Are you claiming that voted for him once already? Really? bjo59 Jun 2016 #15
Clean-up on Aisle 3... AzDar Jun 2016 #18
You never did. basselope Jun 2016 #22
If YOU say so Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #26
If you give information on the subject, yes I could. basselope Jun 2016 #73
Called it. Dead to rights. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #90
Correct me if I'm wrong... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #36
I don't know Captain Jack basselope Jun 2016 #76
Nothing you mention comes from "Sanders" AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #27
The fact that your ridiculous diatribe is still on this board.... alittlelark Jun 2016 #28
File an alert Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #30
Where do you get your 'information' on Sanders from? AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #32
Not gonna do that... alittlelark Jun 2016 #37
It disturbs you? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #42
Disturbed enough to cancel my subscription to this site alittlelark Jun 2016 #65
Funny... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #33
Im sure you do Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #38
I'll write in Sanders... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #43
I don't care Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #46
Yes... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #50
So will these posts be prohibited after June 16th? seekthetruth Jun 2016 #35
Not from Hillary supporters looking.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #40
I think your original post is mucho b.s. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #44
Is Sanders above criticism? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #49
No...nobody is... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #54
Did i ever claim to be? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #56
Here's a criticism of Sanders... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #62
He didn't play dirty in the primaries, not even once? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #75
You got softballs... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #81
I wonder how you guys would have handled the republican machine Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #84
We just dealt with months of the legendary Clinton... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #92
And what did Clinton do to Sanders that was so horrendous? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #94
McCain had the decency to correct a racist constituent... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #107
Of course not. However your post is heavy on sizzle, but where the hell is the beef? avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #60
I already posted it in this thread Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #63
Really. All I read was a lot of hot air. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #72
What an odd place for a minecraft reference Scootaloo Jun 2016 #66
Hmmm. I'm at an impasse Scootaloo Jun 2016 #47
Whatever, I'm sure you will go back to voting for Nader or Stein for president Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #53
Yep... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #58
Funny how thinking your post is dumb translates into "voting for Nader" Scootaloo Jun 2016 #61
You have a script that you're working off of? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #68
Of course not. What fuckwit would actually PAY YOU for work of this quality? Scootaloo Jun 2016 #83
How is Bernie driven by ego? What is your evidence of that? Simply that he stays in the race when so highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #52
I will never read another post by you again. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #57
Its ok, go hide in your corner and play with yourself Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #59
No... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #67
Is that quote from me? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #69
You JUST told someone to go hide in a corner three posts up... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #79
So, it wasn't a quote from me Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #89
Stop .... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #102
And you made up a quote from me and claimed that I said it Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #105
Captain Jack.... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #108
Go back and read all the responses you posted to criticism of your OP. Maedhros Jun 2016 #71
Was I supposed to be lockstep with Sanders? Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #82
You never had faith in him... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #85
Citation needed Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #87
Citation needed... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #96
Sorry, I already got the tattoo removed from my forehead Doctor Jack Jun 2016 #104
Show us your posts... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #111
this is not at all believable ibegurpard Jun 2016 #77
Uh huh. You were a very strong, unequivocal supporter. That's clear from your older posts. merrily Jun 2016 #80
And boom goes the dynamite. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #99
Exactly what every Sanders supporter was predicting (incorrectly) in February merrily Jun 2016 #116
KABOOM! Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #114
That's Doctor to you. merrily Jun 2016 #117
Come on... Buddyblazon Jun 2016 #120
"...or for any other reason." dchill Jun 2016 #86
I almost voted for him UMTerp01 Jun 2016 #98
You mad bro? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #101
Thanks for your concern. Hissyspit Jun 2016 #106
Aren't you people supposed to be fighting the Republicans? Bad Dog Jun 2016 #110
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #113
Another shit post. kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #127
Sniff snort Jun 2016 #130
Like you ever did before? hobbit709 Jun 2016 #131
Haha, I love "goodbye, cruel Bernie!" Posts. N/T actslikeacarrot Jun 2016 #132
See ya' later doc madokie Jun 2016 #133
Damn that hurts. If Bernie lost you then life as we now it ends, Right here and right fucking now. Autumn Jun 2016 #134
itt: "anyone who stops supporting Bernie never supported him the first place" forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #135
I would vote for him over any republican, without hesitation etherealtruth Jun 2016 #136
Conclusion: SmittynMo Jun 2016 #137
Your favorite group is Hillary group. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #138
Oopsie LOL! nt nc4bo Jun 2016 #145
He never said a word about an indictment or Hillary and trump being the same morningfog Jun 2016 #139
... 99Forever Jun 2016 #141
If you enjoy blatant, easily-disproved lies then you are backing the right candidate GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #142
I suppose you no longer love Justin Bieber, either.... islandmkl Jun 2016 #143
Sanders isn't saying Hillary and Trump are basically the same gollygee Jun 2016 #144
I used to like and respect Sanders Gothmog Jun 2016 #148
Nobody gives a shit what you say you would or would not do. John Poet Jun 2016 #150
How many of these threads are you going to post? Barack_America Jun 2016 #151
This is the last one I'll be reading Doctor_J Jun 2016 #162
Okay, then. LWolf Jun 2016 #152
Fascinating tale, brethren. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #153
"Sanders is everything that is wrong with politics." CrispyQ Jun 2016 #154
Cool story.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #157
I wonder why I don't believe you ever supported or voted for Bernie. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #158
Or even once, maybe? n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #159
Much profanity and simplistic logic. Herman4747 Jun 2016 #160
He used to believe in healthcare as a right, deep Pentagon budget cuts, an end to fracking, Doctor_J Jun 2016 #161
Is that why your favorite group is the Hillary group? G_j Jun 2016 #163
So sayeth the folks supporting a person facing a possible indictment. noiretextatique Jun 2016 #165
Seems like you are too easily misled. Kind of a gullible rube. immoderate Jun 2016 #166
This is funny Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #167
 

think

(11,641 posts)
1. Hillary lies about breaking govt rules that concern an FBI investigation but you trust her. Got it..
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:11 AM
Jun 2016

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
3. And he still asks for my money?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:13 AM
Jun 2016

To keep campaigning? For what? For his own glory? He isn't helping downticket dems or liberal causes. He just wants big crowds to cheer his name and claim he is the savior of America.

 

think

(11,641 posts)
9. Issues still matter. America is the only nation that doesn't have universal healthcare out of
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:22 AM
Jun 2016

the top 25 wealthiest nations in the world. Tens of thousands of Americans will die or go deep in debt do to lack of access to affordable healthcare.

Bernie supporters understand that he's still fighting for important issues like that.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
13. I should send him money to keep campaigning for important causes
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:30 AM
Jun 2016

and then he get crushed at the convention? What kind of bullshit logic is his campaign running on?

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
24. His views, his claims of a positive campaign, not a big fan of clinton
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:57 AM
Jun 2016

But as soon as he started losing the negativity came out really fast, claiming that a fellow democrat isn't qualified to be president, telling everyone that the convention will be "messy", saying he will use his left over campaign funds to keep fighting clinton after the primaries instead of funding down ticket democrats, trying to oust the DNC chairwoman in the middle of a campaign, dismissing Clinton's latest foreign policy speech as scary. He really seems like he wants to let the democratic party burn if he doesn't get what he wants.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
64. "if he doesn't get what he wants" <---- This is called projection.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jun 2016


Psychological projection is a theory in psychology
in which humans defend themselves against their own unconscious
impulses or qualities by denying their existence while attributing
them to others.

For example, a person who is habitually rude may constantly accuse
other people of being rude. It incorporates blame shifting.

According to some research, the projection of one's unconscious
qualities onto others is a common process in everyday life.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

moriah

(8,311 posts)
126. Howso? If Bernie had the pledged lead, I'd be calling for unity from my fellow Hillary...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:31 AM
Jun 2016

... supporters.

He didn't, despite leading an extremely impressive campaign.

I personally am trying not to take anything he says seriously until June 21st -- giving him a full week after DC votes to come up with a way to not stand in the way of a Democratic win, not abandon the causes he believes in, and still make sure his supporters know he's still fighting for them.

Response to Doctor Jack (Reply #24)

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
48. Hillary has serious legal problems. She's also got electability problems.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:17 AM
Jun 2016

There may be only a small possibility but you can not say there is none, ie that she will not be the nominee.

Until that becomes certain one way or another -- Bernie is continuing because WE want him to continue.
We will continue to make a case until the convention, that he is in better position to defeat Trump.

None of us know at this point when or how the FBI will throw in their monkeywrench. Legal precedent says: many people have been convicted, even jailed, for lesser national security offenses that what we already know she's done.

Even if the FBI declines to recommend indictment? that won't be the end of it. She'll either be destroyed in the election by Trump, or paralyzed by investigation and obstruction if she makes it into the WH.

Superdelegates know this.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
115. It surprises each time I post or talk about this subject.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jun 2016

When I look at basic established facts, plus the pov of intelligence professionals/ others knowledgeable about national security, it surprises me how legitimately DIRE it seems for her;

then my brain does a double-take:
waitaminnit, thas IMPOSSIBLE nevergonnahappen that never happens in America

then brain goes back to actual facts and precedents.
like brain ping pong. time will tell. hope it is soon.

 

Voice for Peace

(13,141 posts)
29. you're projecting something on him. maybe you expected him to be something different.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:01 AM
Jun 2016

This is SO NOT about his ego!! yowza

If the "establishment" wasn't so blind, he'd be doing a huge amount for the party. He's doing this to make a difference for people who have no voice. He's shown it's possible to run for president without corporate sponsorship. He has never deceived anybody in this primary. But he has inspired so many. And furthermore, he's still inspiring us. I hope you'll take another look.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
122. I call bs. He is very much helping downticket federal and state liberals.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:24 AM
Jun 2016

If you were actually reading the emails you claim to be receiving from him you'd know better.

lmbradford

(517 posts)
156. Hillary kept 90% of down ticket money.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 11:04 AM
Jun 2016

Bernie is sharing 50/50 with down ticket Dems just not establishment Dems.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
20. I like her better that she broke some rules, no really... the whole perfect person bit was tiring
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:45 AM
Jun 2016
 

think

(11,641 posts)
23. So you're applauding Hillary breaking State Dept rules that have now got the FBI involved?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:57 AM
Jun 2016

That's warped...

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
34. Yes, she should also drink a little bit too much a couple of times... pinch some guy on his ass
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:08 AM
Jun 2016

... and throw some shit and damn into her stump speech.

Just to drive the hate to a fever pitch

 

think

(11,641 posts)
39. Cool. Next she can take tons of money from corrupt banks and pretend it won't influence her
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:10 AM
Jun 2016

That'll be a hoot. Oh wait....

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
41. Nah, just vote for some corporations to have lawsuit preceding immunity... that's way worse no? tia
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jun 2016
 

think

(11,641 posts)
45. Nothing like getting filthy rich taking money from banks that you did favors for as SoS
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:16 AM
Jun 2016

Now that's the way to bend some rules!

Hillary Helps a Bank—and Then It Funnels Millions to the Clintons

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/07/hillary-helps-a-bankand-then-it-pays-bill-15-million-in-speaking-fees/400067/

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
55. Yeap, make all the money she can ... just don't give them immunity for court proceedings and she's..
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:19 AM
Jun 2016

... golden no?

Oh at this

The Wall Street Journal’s


Full stop on anything after that

Response to bravenak (Reply #2)

JimDandy

(7,318 posts)
109. Bernie Butter posts are always bizarre. So far, not one BB can point to a series of posts
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:53 AM
Jun 2016

that show their supposed transformation. Amazingly, they rise out of cloth, whole.

It takes a special kind of person to believe that simply their saying "I was a Bernie supporter but now support Hillary" should be accepted as the truth.



 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
112. He's been here for years....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:56 AM
Jun 2016

A simple link to a post showing his support would be simple...

If it actually existed.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
121. Skilled at sarcasm, though. That has to count for something, doesn't it?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:19 AM
Jun 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1312588

Here's the drill: I am just a good Democrat and a lover of Justice. So, of course I defended Hillary against all the insane, rabid, inhuman attacks of the Bernie supporter turds. And I never once unequivocally praised Bernie or, heaven forfend, said he was superior to Hillary in an minute way because......look, a squirrel!

Stop accusing me of dissembling, you evil, vicious Bernie supporter! #BernieLostMe because of people like you!

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
140. maybe it was all that time posting in the Hillary group without being banned,
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:23 AM
Jun 2016

or maybe it was reading their own Hillary Bro style posts like this one that convinced them:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512008969

mozcram3

(1 post)
7. I'm not saying you're a Hillary Truth-er,
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:19 AM
Jun 2016

But your words sound like you are.
Of the three voices in the race, Bernie is the only one who comes close to saying what he means.
Some folks, like Clinton's hired trolls, say things which are on their face ridiculous, and they take on reality just by virtue just by being said and repeated.
What you say feels right to you, but looking at the total picture, U.S. politics, his career and those of Hillary and Trump, you are far wrong. Perhaps you'll recant when you are feeling better.

 

Silver_Witch

(1,820 posts)
8. Sanders is not saying any of this.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:20 AM
Jun 2016

Sanders has never said the election is massively rigged. DNC has done much to be sure he remained in the "unknown" and did nothing to help his campaign. Sanders has never said anything about an indictment coming...some of his more rigged supporters seem to think it...however, there is not truth to your statement or theirs.

I am thinking you are imposing others beliefs on Sanders.

dgauss

(882 posts)
12. "claiming that Clinton and Trump are essentially the same person"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jun 2016

I don't remember Sanders saying anything like that, in fact he's said the opposite.

He's just another egotistical politician, a demagogue, he's everything that's wrong with politics?

I hope your diagnostic skills are better with your patients.

dgauss

(882 posts)
25. I read through those links and your post still seems like nonsense.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 01:59 AM
Jun 2016

Perhaps the most reprehensible Sanders quote, to Clinton supporters anyways, that I found was in the last link:

“Right now, our goal is to win the Democratic nomination,” Sanders said.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
93. When you actually read what Bernie said in context instead of the headlines...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:42 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:09 AM - Edit history (1)


...there is nothing wrong or anti-Democratic Party or even Anti-Hillary in any of them.

He told he would fight to the end and that's what he is doing.

I know it's shocking to see a liberal hippy keep fighting for votes and delegates even though he can't win. We are so used to liberal being wimpy, folding up their tent, and kissing ass or disappearing.

This primary will end and I hope you realize that Bernie is fighting for an agenda - more liberal agenda than HRC can provide.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
146. Doctor Jack, I looked at Sanders early on also
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:46 AM
Jun 2016

with clear eyes and ended up not buying, too many concerns. Doing the homework up front would probably save a lot of emotional wear and tear.

Btw, did Sanders himself ever say Hillary would be indicted, or just benignly accept the boost to his campaign from others saying it? I think that was mostly a passionate delusion of the Hillary derangement syndrome folk and adopted in some overly partisan ecstasy by GD-P.

No sensible person should ever have believed it. The "indictment" promise was first made to whomp up the conservative base over 20 years ago--you know, the mean idiots on the far right?--and it worked so well that over the years literally dozens of promises for as many fake crimes have been tossed like red meat to keep them worked up.

Here's a quick clue: Any time "Judicial Watch" is involved, suspect phony -gates and lawsuits funded by ultraconservative billionaires to stop the Democrats.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
26. If YOU say so
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:00 AM
Jun 2016

If you could, let me know how much I love my wife or if its time for me to get a new house.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
73. If you give information on the subject, yes I could.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:31 AM
Jun 2016

However, since so much of your post was obvious lies, the rest of it being lies was not hard to discern.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
36. Correct me if I'm wrong...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:09 AM
Jun 2016

But I think Captain Jack here has claimed he was a Bernie supporter several times. I'm calling bullshit. But I'm pretty sure he's made this claim before.

 

basselope

(2,565 posts)
76. I don't know Captain Jack
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:32 AM
Jun 2016

But I know most of his post is made up BS.. so it was pretty safe to assume the title was as well.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
27. Nothing you mention comes from "Sanders"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:00 AM
Jun 2016

And nothing you just said rises above the level of 'rant'.

So I will disregard it as mumbo jumbo.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
28. The fact that your ridiculous diatribe is still on this board....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:00 AM
Jun 2016

and survived alerts... is all I need to know.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
30. File an alert
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:02 AM
Jun 2016

Make a really good case for why this is so egregious that it needs to be deleted immediately.

alittlelark

(18,890 posts)
37. Not gonna do that...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:10 AM
Jun 2016

... this is a deep and disturbing shift.

I have a choice to make - thank you for making it so clear for me.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
42. It disturbs you?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:13 AM
Jun 2016

You must lead a sheltered life if this has pushed you over some kind of edge. I wonder, how disturbed would you be if we replaced sanders name in my original post with hillarys? Or would that be perfectly respectful?

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
38. Im sure you do
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:10 AM
Jun 2016

Say you wont vote for hillary and its some kind of noble cause. Say you wont for sanders and you are a lying son of a bitch.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
40. Not from Hillary supporters looking....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:12 AM
Jun 2016

to try to bash BS supporters like Captain Jack here. He is the new DU.

The DU that used to be is officially dead.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
62. Here's a criticism of Sanders...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:25 AM
Jun 2016

I wished he had gotten dirty. Not like the milquetoast, made up dirty you guys claim.

But the actual dirt Drumpf the Orange is about to bombard us with.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
81. You got softballs...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jun 2016

My thin skinned friend.

Fast pitch is about to be upon us. Will you be able to keep it together?

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
84. I wonder how you guys would have handled the republican machine
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:38 AM
Jun 2016

If you think my criticism is so severe that your colleagues come out en masse and threaten to banish little ol' me to the realm of the "ignored" then I think your heads would quite literally explode once the GOP actually went after him.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
92. We just dealt with months of the legendary Clinton...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jun 2016

Slime Machine. I dealt with it 8 years ago and the republicans looked like amateurs after watching the Slime Machine go after Obama in the primaries. Race baiting and all.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
94. And what did Clinton do to Sanders that was so horrendous?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:42 AM
Jun 2016

If it is worse that the way the republicans treated obama, it must be bad

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
107. McCain had the decency to correct a racist constituent...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:51 AM
Jun 2016

on national tv. Never seen that from Hillary.

Let's see the memes coming out of the Hillary camp about sanders.

Crazy
Radical
Unhinged
Old
Possibly going senile
Fringe
Communist
Never accomplished anything in office
Angry
Paranoid
Never took part in the civil rights movement

We could go on here. But my guess is I've just jogged your memory, Captain Jack.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
63. I already posted it in this thread
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:27 AM
Jun 2016

But I wonder, do you have any grievances with Sanders, even one thing or is he flawless so far?

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
53. Whatever, I'm sure you will go back to voting for Nader or Stein for president
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:19 AM
Jun 2016

No big loss for the dems

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
61. Funny how thinking your post is dumb translates into "voting for Nader"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:25 AM
Jun 2016

You should stick to the flash cards, my friend. Going off-script works poorly for you.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
68. You have a script that you're working off of?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jun 2016

I have never heard of such a thing but clearly this is something that you are familiar with. Are you accusing me of being paid to be here...since 2011...to undermine Bernie Sanders? That seems quite paranoid, even for a Sanders supporter.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
83. Of course not. What fuckwit would actually PAY YOU for work of this quality?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:37 AM
Jun 2016

And undermining Bernie? Nah, he's lost. What's there to undermine? I think you're trying to incite hatred.

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
52. How is Bernie driven by ego? What is your evidence of that? Simply that he stays in the race when so
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:18 AM
Jun 2016

many of us WANT him to stay in? That doesn't seem like ego to me. That seems like he is corresponding to the wishes of many, many, many voters. Like me, for instance. I want him to stay in as long as possible.

So, how is that ego?

I think you're upset with him staying in alright, but there must be other reasons than that. And they have more to do with you and your own personal feelings than they do about the standards of Bernie Sanders.

We want him to stay in. In my opinion, we need him to stay in, and I'm sticking with that until I see good reason to drop it, probably at least till the convention.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
59. Its ok, go hide in your corner and play with yourself
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:23 AM
Jun 2016

Anyone that criticizes Sanders must never be seen or heard from again!

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
67. No...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:29 AM
Jun 2016

You want to be nasty and venomous to folks. How could you blame someone for silencing you when they can at the click of the button?

"Im going to insult you, call you names, and tell you how stupid you are and how you don't matter. You're a coward if you don't sit there and take my verbal abuse.".

Personally, I find it amusing. No way I'm putting you on ignore.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
79. You JUST told someone to go hide in a corner three posts up...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:33 AM
Jun 2016

because they said they were putting you on ignore.

Captain Jack, pretty hard not to look up a few posts.

Don't get mad, Captain Jack. Get even.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
89. So, it wasn't a quote from me
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:41 AM
Jun 2016

Maybe don't put it in quotation marks then. Just a little tip for you, buddy.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
102. Stop ....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:45 AM
Jun 2016

You look silly trying to spin that you didn't insult someone for putting you on ignore.

Throwing a tantrum because people don't want to hear your tantrums is childish.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
105. And you made up a quote from me and claimed that I said it
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:47 AM
Jun 2016

Some might call that childish, along with calling me "Captain Jack" for...whatever reason

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
108. Captain Jack....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:53 AM
Jun 2016

stop...everyone can see how you responded to the poster. Don't try to obfuscate and pretend this is something else.

Your behavior is inexcusable. Unless one is a Hillary supporter.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
71. Go back and read all the responses you posted to criticism of your OP.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:30 AM
Jun 2016

Those, in conjunction with the OP itself, indicate that you were never a Sanders supporter and are clearly disingenuous with respect to the purpose of your OP.

Ignoring you is the proper thing to do, and I humbly suggest to others that they ignore you as well.

/bye.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
82. Was I supposed to be lockstep with Sanders?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:35 AM
Jun 2016

It seems like my criticism isn't all that unreasonable to what others might think but apparently it isn't allowed, to the point where I must be never seen again. How is it so inconceivable that someone could lose faith in a political candidate? Is he really so beyond criticism that even the slightest hint of dissent must be dealt with via permanent banishment?

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
96. Citation needed...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:43 AM
Jun 2016

To prove you were ever a Bernie supporter.

Don't post it...we know your being untruthful, Captain Jack.

Doctor Jack

(3,072 posts)
104. Sorry, I already got the tattoo removed from my forehead
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:46 AM
Jun 2016

But maybe I can give you access to my bank records or cell phone data and you can see where I was during the Utah caucuses.

 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
111. Show us your posts...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:55 AM
Jun 2016

Professing your support for Sanders. We don't need cell phone records for you to corroborate your story.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
80. Uh huh. You were a very strong, unequivocal supporter. That's clear from your older posts.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:33 AM
Jun 2016
If Sanders Can't Handle Clinton's "Dirty Tricks" [View all]
I have been lurking on these forums since the primaries started and I hear a lot about Sanders would be cruising to the nomination if it weren't for Clinton and her dastardly coin flips and lies about Sanders record. Perhaps some of these stories are true ( although some have sounded like paranoid, rambling conspiracy theories) and I wouldn't put it past the Clinton's to play dirty. Truthfully, I don't really care for Hillary and I would much rather have Sanders as president ( although I would take her any day of the week over one of those psycho Republicans).

So perhaps good guy Bernie is being beaten down by negative campaigning, cheating, and having the deck stacked against him. Maybe every accusation I have read against Clinton in the primaries is 100% true and Bernie is being screwed over. All of that begs the question, if Bernie can handle the Clinton machine, how in God's name is he going to be able to handle the full onslaught of the Republican party?

Maybe Clinton and the DNC are dishonest and pulling dirty tricks, but that will be kids gloves compared to what the Republicans will bring. Do you really think if Bernie got the nomination, trump or rubio or cruise and the RNC and the billions dollar super pacs will play nice? That the campaign will be a respectful exchange of ideas and realy focused on the issues that affect america today? Do you not think the GOP will take everything Bernie has ever said out of context or make up insane bullshit about him or rig the vote every chance they get?

If you think Clinton is tough and unfair, it will be 1/1,000,000th of what he will face as the Democratic nominee. The one thing that has given me pause about supporting Sanders is whether he (and his supporters) can take the heat and frankly can fight dirty if needed. American politics is a much of a blood sport as it is about having ideas.

To put it bluntly, if you want Sanders as president, toughen the fuck up. Prepare for a full on war more brutal than anything the Clinton's or DNC would ever be willing to image.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1301180

merrily

(45,251 posts)
116. Exactly what every Sanders supporter was predicting (incorrectly) in February
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:05 AM
Jun 2016

Where Does Sanders Go From Here?
These primaries are always about momentum and giving the impression that you are, at minimum, able to maintain viability for the long run. So far, Sanders has looked good. He nearly tied in Iowa, won New Hampshire in a landslide and lost Nevavda. But the next few weeks look rough.

South Carolina is a list cause, from the look of it. He's come back from large deficits but not this close to the voting.

On Super Tuesday

Clinton will win Arkansas, Georiga, Tennessee, Texas, and Virginia.

Clinton has a pretty good lead in Oklahoma

Sanders will win Vermont

It is Tie in Massachusetts.


Sanders will win one, maybe two small States. Clinton 6-7 stares, some large ones.


After Super Tuesday, Michigan looks like Clinton on March 8th. The polls for March 15th are old and they are a bit far out but most are leaning towards Clinton with the info we have.


That doesn't look like a good situation. Sanders will have 2 or 3 wins in small States compared to Clinton's possible 10 or so. How does Clinton not run away with this thing in the next few days?


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=1330026

And theb (same thread)

7. He certainly has surprised thus far

But this is a tall order






 

Buddyblazon

(3,014 posts)
120. Come on...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 03:11 AM
Jun 2016

Nobody thinks this guy is a doctor. Look at his writings. Does he look like a doctor in your head after you read his stuff?

No. You read his stuff and you get a visual of somebody else...who though? Oh yeah. Now I remember why I call him Captain Jack. Odd behavior. Seems intoxicated.

That...and if he's going for absurdity with "Doctor"....why not other absurd titles...like "captain".

Oh oh....wait...Starfleet Admiral Jack.

Ooooooh. That's got a hell of a ring to it.

dchill

(38,488 posts)
86. "...or for any other reason."
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:38 AM
Jun 2016

And what is it that you fear, exactly? Whatever it is, it isn't Sanders. Especially if "ego" and "glory" and "demagogue" are negative bullet points for you.

 

UMTerp01

(1,048 posts)
98. I almost voted for him
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:44 AM
Jun 2016

Had my primary been in February I probably would have voted for Sanders. Seeing his actions as the primary went on actually worked against him instead of in his favor. By the time late April came around I was #BernedOut

Bad Dog

(2,025 posts)
110. Aren't you people supposed to be fighting the Republicans?
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jun 2016

Instead of tearing lumps out of each other's candidates. A Trump presidency looks increasingly likely, and when it happens you can all blame each other, just like you're doing now.

Response to Doctor Jack (Original post)

madokie

(51,076 posts)
133. See ya' later doc
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:06 AM
Jun 2016

but I won't be reading any more of your screeds, sorry I just don't roll that way.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but their own 'facts' not so much. Base your opinion on crap and the smell comes in with you when you come in the door as was the case here.

Have a great day and many happy tomorrows

Peace

Autumn

(45,071 posts)
134. Damn that hurts. If Bernie lost you then life as we now it ends, Right here and right fucking now.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:30 AM
Jun 2016
I just love this little ass crack. The circleness of it and the way it rolls over ever so gently reaches behind and scratches it's round little ass, never quite touching the crack and gently sways back again. Mayhaps it has a pimple on it's ass? Mayhaps it just feels good and the scratch of it's ass crack sends it off gently into the arms of beautiful warm slumber. You just never know and that the beautiful mystery of life.

People can interpret it the way they like, Sweet sweet slumber with the feel of fingernails on the ass as you gently doze off.

Or maybe the little round scratchy ass is impacted with shit and it's flailing and rolling around in agony trying ever so hard to be relevant .

I'll have more coffee and decide later since I have no fucks to give at this time.
 

forjusticethunders

(1,151 posts)
135. itt: "anyone who stops supporting Bernie never supported him the first place"
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:30 AM
Jun 2016

not supporting Bernie Sanders (or even criticizing aspects of his campaign) is doublepluscrimethink especially on DU, so any support someone had for him has to go down the memory hole.

etherealtruth

(22,165 posts)
136. I would vote for him over any republican, without hesitation
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 06:31 AM
Jun 2016

Both the Democratic party candidates are head and shoulders above the republicans. i chose my candidate in the the democratic primary by the equivalent of a coin toss. My concerns about Clinton and Sanders were (different) but equal.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
139. He never said a word about an indictment or Hillary and trump being the same
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:15 AM
Jun 2016

or that the system was rigged against him even.

Your whole petulant rant is premised on lies.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
141. ...
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:27 AM
Jun 2016

"Doctor Jack"

Favorite forum: General Discussion: Primaries, 210 posts in the last 90 days (66% of total posts)
Favorite group: Hillary Clinton, 31 posts in the last 90 days (10% of total posts)
Last post: Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:13 AM

'nuf said.

islandmkl

(5,275 posts)
143. I suppose you no longer love Justin Bieber, either....
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:40 AM
Jun 2016
giving up your idols is just so damn tough, isn't it?

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
144. Sanders isn't saying Hillary and Trump are basically the same
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jun 2016

There are misguided people here saying that, but he has specifically said otherwise.

CrispyQ

(36,462 posts)
154. "Sanders is everything that is wrong with politics."
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 09:41 AM
Jun 2016

Dude, I spewed coffee all over my desk! Thanks for the morning laugh!

 

Herman4747

(1,825 posts)
160. Much profanity and simplistic logic.
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:50 PM
Jun 2016

And when, precisely when, did Bernie ever say "an indictment is coming any day now"?

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
161. He used to believe in healthcare as a right, deep Pentagon budget cuts, an end to fracking,
Mon Jun 6, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jun 2016

End to unlimited dark money in elections, no more right wing coups in foreign countries, gay marriage, living wage, and social security expansion. Then Bernie wouldn't quit campaigning so now he wants the opposite of all those things.

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