2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumVoters not necessary. The media and party elite call it.
Congrats, on your coronation, Hillary.
It could not have unfolded more perfectly.
#oligarchy
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)dchill
(38,489 posts)if Bernie won big anyway?
Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Dont call me Shirley
(10,998 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)...what AP was up to. And her "oh noes, we've still got elections to win" bullshit. Same shady-fucking-lady right up to the end.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)so we have a cheater and a lunatic running for prez.
Raster
(20,998 posts)Clinton will most likely be the nominee and may just eke out a win against Trump. And just minutes after taking her hand off of the Bible for the Oath of Office, she will be handed the first of many, many summonses and subpoenas. What a tragedy that the first Female POTUS will end up the most embattled POTUS and only serve one term, if she actually makes it to full term, which I somewhat doubt.
What a fucking loss for this country and the Democratic Party that the unbridled Clinton self-absorption, greed and hubris were allowed to rule the day. This could have been a glorious opportunity to re-align the Democratic Party and breathe new life into both our party and country, but instead, as a nation and a party, we are now forced to cater to the Amerikan Oligarchy and their sycophants.
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)taking her hand off the oath of office and putting it on that red button.
I don't trust her at all with this kind of power.
Raster
(20,998 posts)...they recognize one of their own.
The Centurions of "New Rome" have found their new Caesar, and she wears a pantsuit.
Clinton has already displayed frightening capacity for authoritarian aggression. If she does reach the Oval Office, it is only a matter of time before she has us embroiled in an international conflict.
Consider this: Hillary's Iraq War vote. I maintain if there was ONE PERSON in Congress who had the inside info, it was Clinton. In addition to being privy to the inside information accorded to members of Congress, she was also privy to the Ex-POTUS CIA daily briefing. She was also more than just a passive First Lady; she was by their own admission, half of a very strong team. In other words, she had a damned good idea of what Saddam and Iraq did and did not have when it came to weaponry: she probably had seen the receipts! There is not doubt that Hillary voted for the bush*2 Iraq war, knowing that we were about to invade a sovereign country that had NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11 and had no weapons of mass destruction. I don't think she was fooled by bush* as she claimed, I think Hillary Clinton wanted a war, I think she wanted lives on the line.
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I would say she didn't care that there were lives on the line, but otherwise, you are spot on.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)but the wizard was really at work this time...
This is so much more blatant than even 2000.
Filthy, disgusting campaign..
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Because she is going to lose badly.
Biaviians
(167 posts)intheflow
(28,473 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Should we just ignore her strong showing in Puerto Rico as well as all the other contests where she's come first?
HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)You can thank Bernie and the rest of us supporting him for throwing a wrench into the process.
gaspee
(3,231 posts)They're calling it based on what VOTERS VOTED FOR!
PepperHarlan
(124 posts)Haven't millions of people in more than 40 states voted since February?
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)Answer: To head off an embarrassing loss in CA.
PepperHarlan
(124 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)gaspee
(3,231 posts)why did they call it on an off day for Trump - could it possibly be the first time the number actually went over the threshold - nah, couldn't be anything simple like that.
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)And why were so many of them so willing to talk today?
Please, you're embarrassing yourself.
gaspee
(3,231 posts)they called it the same way for him so that kind of hurts your theory
Blaukraut
(5,693 posts)various conspiracy theories. This jumping the gun by the AP was not in Clinton's best interest. Just read some of the posts in this forum. She'd probably much rather have claimed victory after all the votes were cast. But hey, far be it from me to get in the way of a good freakout.
djean111
(14,255 posts)And I will register unaffiliated tomorrow.
mythology
(9,527 posts)resulting from voting by voters. It really illustrates that what you're outraged about is that your candidate didn't win, but you can't bring yourself to admit that more voters preferred Clinton to Sanders, so you blame somebody else.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I thought the AP said it was supers that put Hillary over tonight, not voters.
So, who won CA? Off to go search!
panader0
(25,816 posts)The US is not a democracy.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)and they've overwhelmingly chosen Hillary.
That it became obvious that Hillary would win, before all of the votes had been cast, does not mean that the outcome was decided by someone other than the voters.
Sid
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)laserhaas
(7,805 posts)When she gets in..after all the stuff getting off Scot Free
Marrah_G
(28,581 posts)When people see such dishonest and sneaky actions it makes them far less likely to go out and cast a vote for her in November.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)So I'm not sure how you get to "voters not necessary".