Bernie supporters will use this to delegitimize all Hillary's victories tomorrow

[ashtonelijah]

Here we go again. All throughout the primary season, every time Hillary was won, Bernie supporters have found a reason or a conspiracy to use to delegitimize Hillary's wins. RIGGED VOTES! IRREGULARITIES! CLOSED PRIMARIES! NOT ENOUGH POLLING STATIONS! These topics never come up when Bernie wins a state, but Bernie supporters refuse to concede that Hillary -- a powerful woman -- could possibly best their guy in her own merit.

So they've already got their narrative ready for tomorrow: If Bernie wins California, it will be proof that he should be the nominee. If he loses, it won't be because more people wanted Hillary. Nope. It will be because Hillary and the media conspired to dampen turnout and keep Bernie voters from going to the polls.

This is so damn predictable. No matter what Hillary does or how much she wins by, some on the left will never accept that a "shrill" woman could beat their wise Gandalf/Dumbledore come to life.

[upaloopa]

1. Well they will not have a campaign in not too much time.

They can help fight Trump or support him or go silent.

[YouDig]

2. If not this, they would have thought of something else. THe only real rule is that if Hillary

wins, then it doesn't count because of _______. They fill in the blanks as they go.

[msongs]

3. all of her victories are delegitimized as fraud, cheating, etc. because sanders already has enough

delegates to win at the convention...according to him that is

[Adrahil]

23. Well, as someone else pointed out here....

If we apply the standard that a woman earns only 71% as much as a man, then he really DOES have more delegates than her! #Berniemath

[eastwestdem]

4. I was thinking that Hillary supporters will use it to delegitimize any Bernie victories tomorrow

Sanders was obviously trying to depress her voter turnout and spoil her planned victory party in Brooklyn tomorrow night.

[Trust Buster]

5. We would have been less than thrilled if the shoe were on the other foot. June 16 is not written

in stone. We have the ability to begin the process of reunification as of now if we search our consciences.

[morningfog]

6. With ya til the shrill woman comment. Out of left field and

totally delegitimatizes your rant.

[Hiraeth]

10. even with the quote marks. odd. yep.

[ashtonelijah]

12. Maybe I've just grown tired of seeing words like "c**t" and "whore" used to describe her by Dems

All over the Internet and social media for the past 6 months. When I constantly hear Bernie supporters using sexist language against her, it makes me begin to think the real problem is they just can't imagine a woman could possibly beat their totally awesome white dude.

[morningfog]

15. Take it to them. We don't need it here.

[Bobbie Jo]

24. No, they're here.

They didn't even try to disguise themselves.

[ashtonelijah]

14. And I just saw a post here telling Hillary to stop "shouting" or "yelling"

When's the last time anyone said Bernie shouldn't shout or yell? "Shrill" is thinly veiled code language.

[HarmonyRockets]

16. +1

[democrattotheend]

7. Actually, I think it's the opposite

I think Bernie will likely win more of the primaries tomorrow and some Hillary supporters (probably not the campaign itself) or the media on its own wanted to minimize it by declaring the election over before people vote.

[Waiting For Everyman]

8. She could simply refrain from doing all the shady things she does

and then there would be no complaints. Fact is, her thumb is always on the scales and nobody has to like that or put up with it. It's unacceptable.

But I understand that Bernie is planning to raise all of this during the Convention process, and I'm glad he is. If he needs to file legal actions, he should do so and I hope he will.

Hillary is not the poor little victim when she cheats others. She does not have any respect for rules or laws, this we know. Ethics is a joke to her.

[grasswire]

9. you better believe it

...and rightfully so

[realmirage]

11. As if they weren't going to find some reason anyway.

[leftinportland]

13. Sanders supporters will have every right to...

What AP did was unconscionable...call a race before it is over. This will serve to suppress the vote tomorrow. Was Hillary trailing by that much.

[onenote]

18. What did you expect to happen tomorrow that would have changed the overall outcome?

I ask that question in all seriousness.

Did you expect Sanders to win enough delegates to prevent her from getting a majority of pledged delegates?
If so, then there is no reason for last night's announcement to deter any Sanders' supporter from voting since the bar for getting that many pledged delegates is the same.

If not, did you expect the media not to report that Clinton had gotten enough pledged delegates plus SD commitments to be the presumptive nominee? Everyone and their brother has been expecting that announcement would come tomorrow, so what did it matter that the announcement came 24 hours earlier if you weren't expecting/hoping for a game changing, out-of-the-blue series of lopsided wins that would prevent Clinton from claiming the 211 or so pledged delegates she needed for a majority of pledged delegates.

Sanders has all but saying his route to the nomination is by convincing supers that he is the most electable candidate, notwithstanding the pledged delegate vote. So again, either California didn't matter anyway, or it matters just as much today as it did yesterday.

I see a lot of gnashing of teeth about last night's announcement, but not a lot of explanation of why and how it matters in either the short run or the long run.

[serbbral]

32. I think they should have waited, but great post. LOL!

[djean111]

17. I am not going to vote for a warmongering Third Way corporate shill - man OR woman - so

there's that.

Who would have thought the Democratic Party would proudly stand for war and fracking and the TPP and cluster bombs and crushing college debt and increased H-1B visas and bloody interventionism and even less regulation of Wall Street and NO to single payer and YES to the Third Way slashing of social programs? Hating those things has fuck all to do with any "powerful woman" bullshit. It is what that power is used for that is important.

Oh, and, really, why the fuck would you care what Bernie's supporters think or say? Did you really think we were all going to unquestioningly line up and ignore the issues? Dream on.

[uponit7771]

19. The establishment usually has a hard time recognizing the "others" accomplishments

[DCBob]

20. Well said and unfortunately so true.. but..

I and most other Democrats are tired of Bernie and his minions. Never mind him.. it's time to celebrate tonight and then on to defeating Trump!

[thesquanderer]

21. Hillary supporters will use this to delegitimize any Bernie's victories today.

They will say that the announcement depressed turnout among their supporters.

[pdsimdars]

22. It's so damned predictable that the Clinton campaign will lie, cheat and steal.

That means when the Sanders' campaign call them out for it, it means it is most likely happening. Your logic is hollow.

[madokie]

25. pretty simple

when the rules are followed to the T, Bernie wins. Shenanigans and hill might come out on top.

I'm surprised you can't see that for what it is

[Cali_Democrat]

30. Were there "shenanigans" in South Carolina?

[Jester Messiah]

26. Well, quit cheating then! n/t

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. They would do so anyway, who cares?

The Sanders camp is the boy who cried wolf of election fraud. They scream suppression and fraud every time they lose. Nobody takes their ridiculous charges seriously.

[pengu]

28. I agree that it is "so damn predictable"

It's been a pattern of lies and cheats from the very beginning. This primary is illegitimate.

[flor-de-jasmim]

29. So you think it is just "coincidence" that the election was called before voting?

Can't wait another day? When a legitimate candidate calls for all states to be heard, and on the eve of the biggest state's (in population) voting, don't YOU think it is more than a little suspicious that the election was already called? Mind you, even if the situation were reversed I would be outraged.

[Starry Messenger]

31. They would do that no matter the outcome, or the AP.

They already want to make a floor fight in July.

[seabeyond]

33. Of course they will, but it wouldn't matter what happens, there would be something, anything to

demonize, vilify.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

34. Prediction: If Hillary gets the nomination and loses the GE, Bernie will get the blame.

Speaking of "predictable".