2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumAnd here we have it. Alan Fram at @AP solicited SDs yesterday.
https://twitter.com/ShaunKing/status/740252636025348096
KING: Hillary Clinton did not win the Democratic Primary, she won a secret survey of party elites
Tuesday was scheduled to be the single biggest day of the entire Democratic Primary season with a total of 694 pledged delegates up for grabs in California, New Jersey, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, and New Mexico.
In the past 45 days alone, more than 650,000 new voters registered in California and the state announced that with 72% of available voters registered, it was the highest percentage of people ever registered for primaries in the state.
This should have been a celebration for the Democratic Party as it welcomed record numbers of new voters into the fold. Instead, something far more nefarious and underhanded has happened. New voters didn't put Hillary Clinton over the top. Pledged delegates didn't seal the deal. It wasn't a recount of a primary or caucus.
LINK: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hillary-clinton-not-won-democratic-primary-article-1.2664569
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
Bob41213
(491 posts)And published a story that said the election is over, Hillary won. Using a poll to declare the election a day before the last vote? That's not a bit disingenuous?
randome
(34,845 posts)And they have been in contact with the superdelegates -so I would imagine- ever since the Primary began.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)The election has been going on for months. There was an election in Puerto Rico the day before they made these contacts.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Thanks in advance.
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)I'm sure you can search election by election and find them. Or call them.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)Thanks
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)And you can't.
msongs
(67,401 posts)notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)go away.
Maedhros
(10,007 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)King is correct for the next 7 hours or so.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,733 posts)Research the story.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...that's what reporters do? Really?
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)AzDar
(14,023 posts)VOTER SUPPRESSION IN ANY FORM IS SHAMEFUL
Hard to believe anyone on DU supports this shit...
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)there was new information from the virgin Islands and Puerto Rico Primaries. That's a perfectly good reason to canvass uncommitted superdelegates and see if any of them have come to a decision. You're basically saying the press should stop working until everyone has voted, because you don't trust people to show up if they have access to information that might demotivate them.
NWCorona
(8,541 posts)msongs
(67,401 posts)Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)contact and survey the uncommitted delegates after each new round of primary elections, in order to determine if anything has changed and to update their data.
After the VI and PR results last weekend, some surveyed supers had made a move and NBC reported it, but ONLY after AP broke the story first.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1107159091
Triana
(22,666 posts)NOT before people have voted!
Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Why should their votes be ignored just because they favored a candidate you oppose?
PepperHarlan
(124 posts)Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)Perfect.
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Journalists who investigate things? Preposterous!
So many people here act like this is the first election cycle they've been through.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)implying something is different, is no better than lying about it.
RobertEarl
(13,685 posts)WE WON!!
It's an old ploy. Declare victory before the game is over.
They have been doing it from day one, so it is no surprise. Only this time they got a major news org to out themselves as spokes people. Master stroke!!
I have a feeling that the numbers from California are looking so bad for H that this preemptive strike had to be done to counter the awful news about to come.
Problem is: it doesn't really end for another 50 days. Long time in politics.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)TimPlo
(443 posts)It was found to have a impact on the election but so what I guess. I guess Clinton supporters where happy with Bush 8 years in office as they don't seem to care about media calling elections early.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)A great effort was made in the days of the 2000 recount to establish Bush as the winner. It was an enormous PR offensive.
HRC has used the same tactic already in this campaign to establish her image as the winner before events warrant such determination.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)in pledged delegates?
Make up your mind, Berniecrats? Are the Superdelegates good or bad today?
Maybe I should be more specific: are they good or bad at this particular hour?
Incoherent piffle.
Optimism
(142 posts)... DESPITE all her many, many negatives and atrocious poll numbers will have President Trump on their very own consciences.
But then again, he's likely less of a military hawk than Hillary, so I guess that's the silver lining?
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)give their vote to the winner of the pledged delegate race as well as the popular vote. DAMN THEM TO HELL!!!