2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton did not win the Democratic Primary, she won a secret survey of party elites
KING: Hillary Clinton did not win the Democratic Primary, she won a secret survey of party elitesTuesday was scheduled to be the single biggest day of the entire Democratic Primary season with a total of 694 pledged delegates up for grabs in California, New Jersey, North Dakota, South Dakota, Montana, and New Mexico.
In the past 45 days alone, more than 650,000 new voters registered in California and the state announced that with 72% of available voters registered, it was the highest percentage of people ever registered for primaries in the state.
This should have been a celebration for the Democratic Party as it welcomed record numbers of new voters into the fold. Instead, something far more nefarious and underhanded has happened. New voters didn't put Hillary Clinton over the top. Pledged delegates didn't seal the deal. It wasn't a recount of a primary or caucus.
LINK: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/king-hillary-clinton-not-won-democratic-primary-article-1.2664569
Lucinda
(31,170 posts)It totally sucks that they jumped the gun and didn't let things play out tonight...but there is nothing subversive here. They did the same thing to the GOP when they announced Trump on a day with no election going on. It's what they do.
Triana
(22,666 posts)until this next round of primaries is over?
No. I don't buy it.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)It wasn't the union it was the elites? People keep making these arguments all while losing. Losing by way of the vote, not the elite.
Leads in the popular vote. Leads in pledged delegates. Leads in supers. You yell elitism.
She won the primary.
qdouble
(891 posts)Just because the AP called it (based on a crooked little thing called math) it doesn't mean that the polls are closed or that the rest of the process stops right?
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that we know who the official nominee will be, and stop pretending that there is an active contest after June 14 at the latest.
qdouble
(891 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)you never know with the Shaun King types out and about
Triana
(22,666 posts)first before jumping the gun. That smacks of total lack of ethics. It's disrespectful of hundreds of thousands of voters, serves to suppress their votes when they're told there's already a winner before the round of primaries - esp including a huge state like CA - is over.
Nope. This is not "the usual procedure". They jumped the gun.
qdouble
(891 posts)Sure Sanders could have possibly won every remaining state with 80% of the vote... but we all know there's a much better chance of winning the lottery twice than that ever occurring. When there's a state election and the new stations call it with only 10% of the vote counted because they can see the trend, is it possible that all the remaining votes will overturn it? Sure, it's possible. But the forecast models put the chance to near zero.
The facts are, new stations count super delegates as soon as they declare who they are voting for. They always have. Sanders and his supporters wants the world to work differently, just for them. Sooner or later you're going to have to face reality, either now or July 25th. The reality will still be that Hillary Clinton will be the democratic nominee.
onenote
(42,700 posts)last night.
Sanders has said he's not quitting. He's following the same strategy he laid out before yesterday. Protest the proclamation of Cilnton as the nominee prior to the convention. Try to win big on June 7 to cut into Clinton's pledged delegate and popular vote lead and use those results, particularly CA, together with GE polls, to convince SDs to switch support from Clinton to him.
That strategy depended on Sanders supporters coming out for him today even though it was widely reported over the weekend that, with the results from the VI and PR, Clinton would become the presumptive nomine as soon as the results were reported in NJ. But for some reason, Sanders supporters have turned into quitters, indicating that their fellow supporters won't come out now -- even though Sanders has said he's forging ahead with the same strategy he had before yesterday.
No one is preventing anyone from voting. If Sanders supporters stay home today, that's on them and no one else.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)supporters to a high degree, while Hillary's supporters are thinking that she's already won.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)bad form to spread the lie
mythology
(9,527 posts)Clinton has, is and will be the winner of the pledged delegates. Today isn't the most important day of the primary by any useful measure.
The proportional allocation means that the further in the process, the harder it is to come back.
The most important days were Super Tuesday and March 15th. By not being at parity with Clinton then, Sanders put him in a position where he couldn't catch up.