2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy such disparity between the Dakotas?
At the time of this post, Hillary is up 54-46 in South Dakota, whereas Bernie is up 62-30 in North Dakota. Why such disparity between what I understand to be two relatively politically similar states? Is one a primary and one a caucus?
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)the biggest county is going for sanders...and its big enough to wipe out clinton's lead
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)I'm sure I'm misspelling it
http://www.decisiondeskhq.com/results/2016/primary/dem/president/south-dakota/
graphic indicates size of county by population instead of geography...rather clever I think
woolldog
(8,791 posts)Fresh_Start
(11,330 posts)the people I've been talking to might not have had a good understanding.
Last time I looked, CLinton had a small lead.
brooklynite
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eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I thought he won them in Minnesota and at least one other state where they were large enough to be in the exit poll.
Ken Burch
(50,254 posts)Would have won it in a primary, for that matter.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)Yankton Rez vote as well, although he lost the counties where the Yankton Rez is located.
There are a few small reservations in the Eastern part of the state where Clinton won, but the population numbers of these reservations are pretty low NA vote was easily overridden by the white vote in those areas.
Bernie won the Pine Ridge, Rosebud, Cheyenne River, Standing Rock, and Black Hills Rez areas. I reckon these reservations make up about 90% of the entire NA reservation population of South Dakota.
Zorra
(27,670 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Same split happened in 2008.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)But yeah, the primary v. caucus distinction makes sense, especially when the winner of the primary has already been called. Caucus voters are more likely to take action to have their voices heard despite being told it's over
PepperHarlan
(124 posts)The other uses an undemocratic caucus system that is more for activists than rank and file voters.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)And we all know Hillary wins the southern states. At least in the Democratic Primaries, she does.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)see how that works.
larkrake
(1,674 posts)ancianita
(36,053 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)The oil is a relatively new development - it wasn't discovered until 2006 and wasn't at full capacity until 2012.
The same split happened in 2008. ND has a caucus. SD has a primary. That's the main difference.
Jackilope
(819 posts)Bernie came to SD and reached out to us. He is only candidate that addressed and related to Native American people and issues. He attracted over 4000 in Sioux Falls alone. Bill got 300. East River is more progressive than West River.
There are times I truly dislike the political make up of my state.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Caucuses suppress the vote in a big way. But without caucuses, Clinton would have been the presumptive nominee long before last night.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Pretty straightforward.
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