2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe degree of victory in NJ is pretty stunning
70% in, 64% - 36%.
Thats massive and way more than I thought it would be.
bigwillq
(72,790 posts)I thought Hillary would win big.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)applegrove
(118,642 posts)itsrobert
(14,157 posts)Except, some of them, I guess.
NanceGreggs
(27,814 posts)... "Confederate states" whose votes don't count, right?
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)NJ is 100% establishment Dem and not a lover of progessivism. I knew Bernie had no chance there. Oh, the countless doors slammed in my face when I campaigned there for Obama. They love their centrist Dems!
Zynx
(21,328 posts)Kind of odd to disparage it.
NNadir
(33,517 posts)Actually Democrats here, love, um, Democrats. Bernie Sanders suffers from being insufferably hostile to Democrats.
Barack_America
(28,876 posts)I know 'cuz I was walking through Camden, literally stepping on crack vials, to GOTV for him.
NNadir
(33,517 posts)What's that have to do with Bernie Sanders?
I certainly don't think he's Obama like. Obama is articulate, well educated, and...oh yes...he's a Democrat.
itsrobert
(14,157 posts)and his $19 trillion in new debt and his destruction of the middle class with his huge middle class tax increase
Armstead
(47,803 posts)JCanete
(5,272 posts)how is putting money into the hands of the people who actually spend it, and into our infrastructure that will generate a competitive future workforce going to mount a 19$ trillion dollar debt? And why is the debt something I even give a shit about anyway? If we have the talent pool and the infrastructure, and we actually start to utilize our population, rather than cutting so much of it out of the american dream, then we will continue to have the upper hand when competing with the rest of the world.
Why not quit pretending you want incremental change now, unless it's to the right. I'm going to take a wild guess that you aren't so down on the status quo. It's just the way of the world that enough people have to lose in order for there to be winners, and Clinton the pragmatist understands that right?
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)This is a place where some Democrats vote for Chris Christie.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)They are not receptive to Bernie's message.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Because it's, well, in the South.
Same with South Dakota.
obamanut2012
(26,071 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)For some reason, I thought it would be closer as well!
It was a very good night for her, especially in my county!
DCBob
(24,689 posts)New Jersey is surrounded by states that went big for Hillary.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)Tarc
(10,476 posts)A trouncing all around. NJ seems to tic up every time, too.
mcar
(42,323 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)beachbumbob
(9,263 posts)Voting block..And his people think this a sign of a winning campaign...
Trust Buster
(7,299 posts)He put forth a mammoth effort and should be commended.