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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 12:57 AM Jun 2016

Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution

For better and for worse, Sanders made all the big decisions.

By EDWARD-ISAAC DOVERE and GABRIEL DEBENEDETTI 06/07/16 11:26 PM EDT Updated 06/08/16 12:33 AM EDT


There’s no strategist pulling the strings, and no collection of burn-it-all-down aides egging him on. At the heart of the rage against Hillary Clinton and the Democratic Party, the campaign aides closest to him say, is Bernie Sanders.

It was the Vermont senator who personally rewrote his campaign manager’s shorter statement after the chaos at the Nevada state party convention and blamed the political establishment for inciting the violence.

He was the one who made the choice to go after Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz after his wife read him a transcript of her blasting him on television.

He chose the knife fight over calling Clinton unqualified, which aides blame for pulling the bottom out of any hopes they had of winning in New York and their last real chance of turning a losing primary run around.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041
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Inside the bitter last days of Bernie's revolution (Original Post) workinclasszero Jun 2016 OP
Just can't let it fucking go, can you? BlueStater Jun 2016 #1
Hillary will win in a landslide against the TrumpenFührer workinclasszero Jun 2016 #2
Had what in the palms of our hands? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #3
The prize workinclasszero Jun 2016 #5
You think Hillary was that weak? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #7
LOL workinclasszero Jun 2016 #8
But you're saying Bernie and his supporters had the win but let it go? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #9
Well Elizabeth Warren would have ran a much better campaign workinclasszero Jun 2016 #12
Its true he made mistakes, but I'm not sure if he ran a perfect Bernie campaign it have worked aikoaiko Jun 2016 #13
He was doomed when he could make no inroads into the south workinclasszero Jun 2016 #14
He was doomed when 95% of superdelegates immediately declared for Hillary on day one davidn3600 Jun 2016 #17
Uh...Hillary just won with pledged delegates not supers workinclasszero Jun 2016 #19
Wishful thinking Lil Missy Jun 2016 #23
This story is being talked about on MSNBC right now! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #4
It was interesting to hear Nicole Wallace's perspective DesertRat Jun 2016 #15
They can't get enough of this story! workinclasszero Jun 2016 #16
I'm sure it will! DesertRat Jun 2016 #18
Let the truth come out workinclasszero Jun 2016 #20
Well, unity sure didn't last long. Barack_America Jun 2016 #6
This is an important story Renew Deal Jun 2016 #10
From the looks of it, you can blame the Sanders camp. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #11
The last days of this revolution are far in the future, Ron Green Jun 2016 #21
Everything about this piece speaks to an absolutely breathtaking sense of entitlement Number23 Jun 2016 #22

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
1. Just can't let it fucking go, can you?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:01 AM
Jun 2016

You're going to be one of the first ones blaming Sanders if Hillary loses. I can guarantee it.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
2. Hillary will win in a landslide against the TrumpenFührer
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:06 AM
Jun 2016

Then you can sit back and realize how you had it in the palm of your hands....but let it slip away.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
9. But you're saying Bernie and his supporters had the win but let it go?
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:24 AM
Jun 2016

I don't understand what you are trying to say about Bernie winning the nomination.

I don't think he ever had it, but he was close at a time.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. Well Elizabeth Warren would have ran a much better campaign
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:29 AM
Jun 2016

than Sanders for sure.

Bernie Sanders failed because his flaws overcame him in the end.

Bullheaded, stubborn to a fault apparently, won't listen to anyone including his staff, doesn't play nice with others, etc.

aikoaiko

(34,170 posts)
13. Its true he made mistakes, but I'm not sure if he ran a perfect Bernie campaign it have worked
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:34 AM
Jun 2016


The Democratic POC and women's vote was pretty much locked in before he announced.

I didn't realize home much work had been done years before 2008.

But you're right, Bernie has flaws that cost him votes and delegates.
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
14. He was doomed when he could make no inroads into the south
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:36 AM
Jun 2016

And the PoC that make up the base of the democratic party IMO.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
17. He was doomed when 95% of superdelegates immediately declared for Hillary on day one
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:39 AM
Jun 2016

...before a single vote was cast.

Easy to win when you have 500 delegate head start.

It was always rigged. And everyone knew it was rigged which is why so few Democrats attempted to run.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
19. Uh...Hillary just won with pledged delegates not supers
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:44 AM
Jun 2016

And if Sanders would have come down from his ivory tower 30 years ago and joined the democratic party I bet he would have had a hell of a lot more supers on his side.

Then again with the insider info coming out now about his personalty and leadership style, maybe not.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
15. It was interesting to hear Nicole Wallace's perspective
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:36 AM
Jun 2016

as someone worked on a losing campaign (McCain/Palin).

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
10. This is an important story
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:26 AM
Jun 2016

The story isn't rubbing it in. It's about the inside of the campaign. Same thing happened with Bush 3, Rubio, Cruz, etc.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
11. From the looks of it, you can blame the Sanders camp.
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 01:27 AM
Jun 2016

They certainly aren't unified. If they can't unify their own staff and the rats are leaving the sinking ship and telling stories about it, there's little reason to believe they want to unify with anyone else. Sanders clearly doesn't.

Besides, kind of hard to unify with a group you've been disparaging relentlessly for months.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
22. Everything about this piece speaks to an absolutely breathtaking sense of entitlement
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:40 AM
Jun 2016

Particularly the bit where the staff himself say that they were "goaded" into talking about Hillary's speeches from Goldman Sachs after she "hammered" him on gun control. That is astonishing that any candidate would openly admit to attacking someone because they were "goaded." That's something a 10 year old would say.

The vindictiveness, jealousy and anger apparently lodged at EVERYBODY since it's everybody's fault but his own that he didn't win, are incredibly unbecoming.

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