2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumPolitico story: inside the Sanders campaign
and the finger pointing and recriminations begin.
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/bernie-sanders-campaign-last-days-224041
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,413 posts)boston bean
(36,221 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)YouDig
(2,280 posts)sufrommich
(22,871 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)Both of them have held elected office and have served in and around government for years, and recognized the basic constraints of the Constitution and the separation of powers.
Donald Trump has none of those attributes.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)the character of the candidate: angry, autocratic, and ... quite frankly ... somewhat irrational. I'm so grateful this is over. Though I fear for the Convention.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)up losing, and it never is warm and fuzzy.
Nothing in this about Bernie himself is damning in any way.
ANYONE who has risen to the level he has risen has a pretty darn big ego.
And, nothing he he has said or done has been even remotely across the line for a political campaign, this shit isn't high tea. Its rough and tumble.
I voted Bernie, but have known all along Hillary was going to win.
IMO,they both were very strong and good candidates who ran good campaigns.
He just ran up against someone who was a nice foil, but at the same time simply had too much name and support.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)hellofromreddit
(1,182 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)even if--and I'm not saying this is the case--he's the most miserable prick in the universe, you don't go running to the press to shank him like that
snooper2
(30,151 posts)Reading that I was instantly reminded of this little episode-
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)at the same time, you get the sense things were being exaggerated by people who had very ulterior motives
that said, we dodged a bullet
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)regardless of political orientation. It's the autopsy of where it went wrong - and instrumental for other pols (or strategists) to watch and keep an eye on with what they do.
Doubly important in this season because it can help readjust other campaigns downticket going forward into the general.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)on the candidate is a different
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)A lot of presupposition around these parts was that it was Weaver in the forefront and Devine in the background running things - at least until Devine disappeared mostly back to Rhode Island. This is now saying that Sanders was even more involved in the nuts and bolts of the decisions and that puts more of the onus on him for the end result.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)cynatnite
(31,011 posts)I think it should be taken with a grain of salt and the hurt feelings that someone obviously has.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)that campaign was not known for getting along, though at least they turned on each other instead of Hillary
Samantha
(9,314 posts)He will be leaving a YUUGE legacy for people wanting to work for the planks in the Sanders' platform. Some have already started.
Sam
Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)I've just been Trashing or ignoring them, but really...
What do you care? It's a load of nonsense anyway.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Waiting For Everyman
(9,385 posts)Beginning last night.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Do we really need a fourth?
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Talk to the other threads, more than likely. This one was one of the earliest iterations of it.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Last edited Wed Jun 8, 2016, 03:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Final answer: Dude is a madman... All this time I thought it was the emoprogs who hijacked his campaign and took it to places he didn't necessarily want it to go.
But I didn't know until this day that it was Bernie all along....
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)It only makes it harder on him.