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SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:36 AM Jun 2016

Huffpo: It's time to give it up,

while you still have your dignity.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/clinton-should-concede-to-sanders-before-fbi-reveals-findings_b_9836720.html?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_1035078&

Key points:
Since “gross negligence” can be used to prosecute Clinton under the Espionage Act, and since convenience wasn’t the reason for owning a private server, indictments are likely. Also, if indictments become a reality, the fracture within the Democratic Party, caused by people who’d still vote for a candidate facing criminal indictment, would be irreparable. The rest of the world would either be laughing, or in disbelief, that Clinton decided to continue her campaign for the presidency (with supporters still loyal), even with the threat of jail time. Rest assured, even more Bernie supporters would refuse to vote for Clinton, if her campaign continued its quest for the White House, alongside criminal indictments.

Then there’s the likelihood of criminal charges. Every “legal scholar” or pundit defending Clinton assumes that merely convenience, or absent-mindedness, was the reason for a private server. Since there was almost certainly political utility involved in circumventing U.S. government networks, the DOJ has intent and motive to indict Clinton.

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Huffpo: It's time to give it up, (Original Post) SmittynMo Jun 2016 OP
5 more days!! riversedge Jun 2016 #1
You're amazing!!! SmittynMo Jun 2016 #2
tick tock.. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #5
Clap harder. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #9
^^^^^^THIS!^^^^^^ charlyvi Jun 2016 #15
I will listen to legal experts and insiders regarding this, not a gadfly with wishful thinking from kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #35
In five days it these things can't be said on DU but.. coco77 Jun 2016 #17
That's fine with me vdogg Jun 2016 #18
Lol! So I am not a Democrat because I don't agree with Hillary? coco77 Jun 2016 #19
Probably more of a dem than you SmittynMo Jun 2016 #26
LOL you guys are a riot! jack_krass Jun 2016 #37
Define Democrat. KPN Jun 2016 #40
Someone who actually supports the democratic nominee in the general election vdogg Jun 2016 #42
That's not a definition. You fail. KPN Jun 2016 #43
Oh, it's mostly certainly a definition. vdogg Jun 2016 #44
Can't have it both ways vdogg. KPN Jun 2016 #45
Until Goodman goes back home to support Trump. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #20
+1 BootinUp Jun 2016 #34
But they'll be a fun 5 days! KPN Jun 2016 #39
more and more unhinged. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #3
Read the article SmittynMo Jun 2016 #6
HA Loserman is full of shit .. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #7
Find me an example of HA Goodman EVER having the facts. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #12
HA Loserman needs to look for another job quick! leftofcool Jun 2016 #4
soon Skinner's... chillfactor Jun 2016 #8
Garbage? SmittynMo Jun 2016 #10
Twice you've mentioned facts re: HA Goodman. Dr Hobbitstein Jun 2016 #13
Yes you do! charlyvi Jun 2016 #16
Refute ONE thing he says, ONE fact he puts down. Let's hear it. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #24
Good luck with that. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #31
Lol!!!! +1 KPN Jun 2016 #41
I'm going to borrow this!! Duval Jun 2016 #56
It is scary, the mindless rush to push Hillary.. . .for what? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #57
HAHA Goodman would have to put down a fact first in order for us to refute it. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #48
Refute the post. Go for it. We'll wait. pinebox Jun 2016 #32
And people also used to burn the books they didn't like and didn't thing others should read pdsimdars Jun 2016 #21
This message was self-deleted by its author LiberalArkie Jun 2016 #25
Still touting the opinion of Rand Paul supporter HA Goodman? Why? He's a self-promoter who cares... BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #11
Uygur used to be a right wing Republican making 70 K a year as a corporate lawyer. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #14
Hillary was a Republican once and so was Warren. Your point? pinebox Jun 2016 #33
Bit obvious, isn't it ? In a 2 horse race, Uygur doesn't support the Democrat, therefore a traitor. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #46
Many people don't pinebox Jun 2016 #47
Indeed. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #55
40 and 20 years ago, respectively. Got anything more relevant? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #51
Ah, yes, so you have no rebuttal to his actual CONTENT, just the superficial, personal attacks. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #23
6 days. Happy trails. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #22
NFFS SmittynMo Jun 2016 #27
. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #29
. SmittynMo Jun 2016 #30
To be clear, that's HA HA Goodman, not really "Huffpo" Adrahil Jun 2016 #28
To think that the Dem Party would allow a candidate about to be indicted be the nominee is naive. kerry-is-my-prez Jun 2016 #36
I think I will miss HA HA mcar Jun 2016 #38
It is indeed time to give it up. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #49
HA Goodman is not "HuffPo" TwilightZone Jun 2016 #50
How can one determine an article is useless, see HA Goodman's name attached. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #52
Thanks for the link to the Huffpost article. I'll share with all my friends on Facebook. Excellent BigBearJohn Jun 2016 #53
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #54
FOUR MORE DAYS DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #58
Oy! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #59

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
2. You're amazing!!!
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:41 AM
Jun 2016

You can predict when the FBI will be done with her? That's too friggin awesome. Thanks for the heads up

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
9. Clap harder.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jun 2016
But then there was a moment where former Governor Weld shattered Republican dreams and Donald Trump's talking points about Hillary Clinton's email.

Weld changed the topic they were discussing and brought up the whole Hillary email hoo-ha, telling Chuck Todd it is going nowhere. When pressed by Todd on why he thought so, Weld replied, "I'm speaking as a former director of the criminal division of the Justice Department. There's no criminal intent, and with no criminal intent there's no indictment."

http://crooksandliars.com/2016/05/libertarian-vp-candidate-blows-republicans











kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
35. I will listen to legal experts and insiders regarding this, not a gadfly with wishful thinking from
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

Huffington Post who is stubbornly stuck on Bernie Sanders.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
17. In five days it these things can't be said on DU but..
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:03 AM
Jun 2016

You better believe these things will be said in many places. The main point is you can not change anyone's opinions or facts. The is is DU not the whole world. Now, just because many in our party have endorsed Hilllary they will not change many minds.

She may win the Presidency but it will be a day in and day out list of charges and alleigations.

I have been hearing her say she can take it but can the country take it.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
18. That's fine with me
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:52 AM
Jun 2016

Just tired of this crap being posted on DEMOCRATIC underground by supposed democrats. You can go over to freerepublic with this bs. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.

 

coco77

(1,327 posts)
19. Lol! So I am not a Democrat because I don't agree with Hillary?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 08:58 AM
Jun 2016

Five more days On DU. And many more everywhere else until the election and you can't stop em..

SmittynMo

(3,544 posts)
26. Probably more of a dem than you
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:38 AM
Jun 2016

The problem here is "oligarchy". Our democracy is all but gone. And you don't seem to get that, nor support a true democracy. So who's the "good democrat" here?

I just hope "all you oligarch supporters" realize that you will probably give Trump the victory, due to low voter turnout. Even the poster prior to you said she "may" win.

Do I want Clinton indicted? Of course not, but it's not looking good for her. And the oligarch establishment is all behind her. I'm guessing you can't see the rigging and corruption here.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
42. Someone who actually supports the democratic nominee in the general election
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jun 2016

Instead of trying to sabotage her against her republican opponent simply because you didn't get your way. Someone who understands that there is actually a difference between our nominee and Trump, and realizes how devastating it would be to our nation if Trump gets anywhere close to the reins of power.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
44. Oh, it's mostly certainly a definition.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:26 PM
Jun 2016

You may not like the definition, but it is one. I don't see how anyone who is actively campaigning against a political party, can then turn around and say they are part of that party. It doesn't make sense, simply doesn't add up.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
45. Can't have it both ways vdogg.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:34 PM
Jun 2016

You haven't defined what a democrat is. All you've done is stated a behavior and stipulated that behavior as a requirement.

I've been a Democrat for 44+ years (registered that is). I know what a Democrat is. Do you?

KPN

(15,645 posts)
39. But they'll be a fun 5 days!
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jun 2016

Go Bernie!

Time top derail the Third-Way! The Party will only drift further to the right to fill the vacuum being left by the GOP's demise anyway. What's there to lose?!!

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
12. Find me an example of HA Goodman EVER having the facts.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jun 2016

Pro-Tip: HA Goodman, the staunch Rand Paul supporter, has never been right about anything.

charlyvi

(6,537 posts)
16. Yes you do!
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:57 AM
Jun 2016

Only hear/read what you want to. HAHA Goodman and facts are strangers to each other. No one that writes with the vitriol and hatred that he does can be considered fair and credible. Unhinged is more the word.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
24. Refute ONE thing he says, ONE fact he puts down. Let's hear it.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:42 AM
Jun 2016

All you have is the personal attacks. The kind that Hillary supporters are so sensitive about. ironic.

KPN

(15,645 posts)
41. Lol!!!! +1
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:03 PM
Jun 2016

I'm going to borrow that if you don't mind w/ minor mod:

"Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army is immune to facts and reason!"

 

pinebox

(5,761 posts)
32. Refute the post. Go for it. We'll wait.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:00 AM
Jun 2016

Go ahead, show us where he is wrong. The floor is yours.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
21. And people also used to burn the books they didn't like and didn't thing others should read
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:36 AM
Jun 2016

But that isn't something to be proud of. Proud of being uninformed. What kind of a democratic value is that?
This is real information and real facts. Get used to them!

Response to chillfactor (Reply #8)

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
11. Still touting the opinion of Rand Paul supporter HA Goodman? Why? He's a self-promoter who cares...
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:47 AM
Jun 2016

...about nothing more than raising his own profile, and driving page-clicks to his own content. "Click here to watch me talk about some fringe topic..." or "Follow this link to my appearance on some show..." or "Click here to read my endorsement of Rand Paul, because I'm such a fake progressive."

Goodman, Uygur, Reich. These are all left-wing versions of the same people who peddle books on Fox and Rush and Hannity. The Progressive Entertainment Complex has arisen, and they want your money.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. Uygur used to be a right wing Republican making 70 K a year as a corporate lawyer.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 07:51 AM
Jun 2016
Ostensibly becoming a progressive and bashing Democrats from the left was a great career move. He's now making millions.

How easy it is to deceive those who want to be.

OnDoutside

(19,956 posts)
46. Bit obvious, isn't it ? In a 2 horse race, Uygur doesn't support the Democrat, therefore a traitor.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 03:00 PM
Jun 2016

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
51. 40 and 20 years ago, respectively. Got anything more relevant?
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:12 PM
Jun 2016

Uygur took $4m from a Republican to fund his show in 2014.

Goodman was supporting Rand Paul in this election cycle, barely a year ago.

 

pdsimdars

(6,007 posts)
23. Ah, yes, so you have no rebuttal to his actual CONTENT, just the superficial, personal attacks.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 09:39 AM
Jun 2016

You really have nothing to say apparently, or know nothing about what he is talking about or you might be able to refute something, But you don't. All you have is "attitude". Kind of a flimsy cover for your lack of content.

PS, yes, he is a bit over the top, but he UNDERSTANDS his content. Every person on earth has their idiosyncrasies, but he is smart and knows his shit. You, however, don't seem to, and all you have it the shallow personal attacks.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
28. To be clear, that's HA HA Goodman, not really "Huffpo"
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 10:42 AM
Jun 2016

And Goodman has been fucking incredibly wrong the entire cycle, so it's hilarious that people are still posting his crap.

kerry-is-my-prez

(8,133 posts)
36. To think that the Dem Party would allow a candidate about to be indicted be the nominee is naive.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 11:19 AM
Jun 2016

There have been tons of legal experts and insiders who have said that it's not going to happen, not a person with cognitive dissonance.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
49. It is indeed time to give it up.
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:03 PM
Jun 2016

The indictment fairy isn't coming, and no amount of bloviating from HAHA Goodman will change that.

TwilightZone

(25,471 posts)
50. HA Goodman is not "HuffPo"
Fri Jun 10, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jun 2016

He's a hack who occasionally writes click-bait nonsense for them because they need more ad revenue.

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