2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHuffpo: It's time to give it up,
while you still have your dignity.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/h-a-goodman/clinton-should-concede-to-sanders-before-fbi-reveals-findings_b_9836720.html?utm_source=zergnet.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=zergnet_1035078&
Key points:
Since gross negligence can be used to prosecute Clinton under the Espionage Act, and since convenience wasnt the reason for owning a private server, indictments are likely. Also, if indictments become a reality, the fracture within the Democratic Party, caused by people whod still vote for a candidate facing criminal indictment, would be irreparable. The rest of the world would either be laughing, or in disbelief, that Clinton decided to continue her campaign for the presidency (with supporters still loyal), even with the threat of jail time. Rest assured, even more Bernie supporters would refuse to vote for Clinton, if her campaign continued its quest for the White House, alongside criminal indictments.
Then theres the likelihood of criminal charges. Every legal scholar or pundit defending Clinton assumes that merely convenience, or absent-mindedness, was the reason for a private server. Since there was almost certainly political utility involved in circumventing U.S. government networks, the DOJ has intent and motive to indict Clinton.
riversedge
(70,216 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)You can predict when the FBI will be done with her? That's too friggin awesome. Thanks for the heads up
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Weld changed the topic they were discussing and brought up the whole Hillary email hoo-ha, telling Chuck Todd it is going nowhere. When pressed by Todd on why he thought so, Weld replied, "I'm speaking as a former director of the criminal division of the Justice Department. There's no criminal intent, and with no criminal intent there's no indictment."
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/05/libertarian-vp-candidate-blows-republicans
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)Huffington Post who is stubbornly stuck on Bernie Sanders.
coco77
(1,327 posts)You better believe these things will be said in many places. The main point is you can not change anyone's opinions or facts. The is is DU not the whole world. Now, just because many in our party have endorsed Hilllary they will not change many minds.
She may win the Presidency but it will be a day in and day out list of charges and alleigations.
I have been hearing her say she can take it but can the country take it.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)Just tired of this crap being posted on DEMOCRATIC underground by supposed democrats. You can go over to freerepublic with this bs. Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.
coco77
(1,327 posts)Five more days On DU. And many more everywhere else until the election and you can't stop em..
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)The problem here is "oligarchy". Our democracy is all but gone. And you don't seem to get that, nor support a true democracy. So who's the "good democrat" here?
I just hope "all you oligarch supporters" realize that you will probably give Trump the victory, due to low voter turnout. Even the poster prior to you said she "may" win.
Do I want Clinton indicted? Of course not, but it's not looking good for her. And the oligarch establishment is all behind her. I'm guessing you can't see the rigging and corruption here.
jack_krass
(1,009 posts)KPN
(15,645 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)Instead of trying to sabotage her against her republican opponent simply because you didn't get your way. Someone who understands that there is actually a difference between our nominee and Trump, and realizes how devastating it would be to our nation if Trump gets anywhere close to the reins of power.
KPN
(15,645 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)You may not like the definition, but it is one. I don't see how anyone who is actively campaigning against a political party, can then turn around and say they are part of that party. It doesn't make sense, simply doesn't add up.
KPN
(15,645 posts)You haven't defined what a democrat is. All you've done is stated a behavior and stipulated that behavior as a requirement.
I've been a Democrat for 44+ years (registered that is). I know what a Democrat is. Do you?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)He is a ratfucker.
KPN
(15,645 posts)Go Bernie!
Time top derail the Third-Way! The Party will only drift further to the right to fill the vacuum being left by the GOP's demise anyway. What's there to lose?!!
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)How can you deny what the real facts are?
stonecutter357
(12,697 posts)Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)Pro-Tip: HA Goodman, the staunch Rand Paul supporter, has never been right about anything.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)chillfactor
(7,575 posts)new policies go into effect and garbage like this post will not be allowed...YEAH!
SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)That's too funny. People only hear/read what they want to. Ignore the facts!!!!
Dr Hobbitstein
(6,568 posts)I don't think it means what you think it means.
charlyvi
(6,537 posts)Only hear/read what you want to. HAHA Goodman and facts are strangers to each other. No one that writes with the vitriol and hatred that he does can be considered fair and credible. Unhinged is more the word.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)All you have is the personal attacks. The kind that Hillary supporters are so sensitive about. ironic.
Lizzie Poppet
(10,164 posts)Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army is immune to your puny reason and facts!
KPN
(15,645 posts)I'm going to borrow that if you don't mind w/ minor mod:
"Princess Weathervane's Ostrich Army is immune to facts and reason!"
Duval
(4,280 posts)How apt a description!
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Go ahead, show us where he is wrong. The floor is yours.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)But that isn't something to be proud of. Proud of being uninformed. What kind of a democratic value is that?
This is real information and real facts. Get used to them!
Response to chillfactor (Reply #8)
LiberalArkie This message was self-deleted by its author.
BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)...about nothing more than raising his own profile, and driving page-clicks to his own content. "Click here to watch me talk about some fringe topic..." or "Follow this link to my appearance on some show..." or "Click here to read my endorsement of Rand Paul, because I'm such a fake progressive."
Goodman, Uygur, Reich. These are all left-wing versions of the same people who peddle books on Fox and Rush and Hannity. The Progressive Entertainment Complex has arisen, and they want your money.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)How easy it is to deceive those who want to be.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)Uygur took $4m from a Republican to fund his show in 2014.
Goodman was supporting Rand Paul in this election cycle, barely a year ago.
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)You really have nothing to say apparently, or know nothing about what he is talking about or you might be able to refute something, But you don't. All you have is "attitude". Kind of a flimsy cover for your lack of content.
PS, yes, he is a bit over the top, but he UNDERSTANDS his content. Every person on earth has their idiosyncrasies, but he is smart and knows his shit. You, however, don't seem to, and all you have it the shallow personal attacks.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)Don't ask.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Adrahil
(13,340 posts)And Goodman has been fucking incredibly wrong the entire cycle, so it's hilarious that people are still posting his crap.
kerry-is-my-prez
(8,133 posts)There have been tons of legal experts and insiders who have said that it's not going to happen, not a person with cognitive dissonance.
mcar
(42,329 posts)His stuff is comedy gold.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)The indictment fairy isn't coming, and no amount of bloviating from HAHA Goodman will change that.
TwilightZone
(25,471 posts)He's a hack who occasionally writes click-bait nonsense for them because they need more ad revenue.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)BigBearJohn
(11,410 posts)Response to SmittynMo (Original post)
rjsquirrel This message was self-deleted by its author.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Night Watchman
(743 posts)And I'm not even Jewish!