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amborin

(16,631 posts)
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 05:54 PM Jun 2016

Bill Clinton $16.5 Mill Fm 4-Profit Laureate Int'l Universities HRC Got thm Seat At State ept w/Yale

Clinton Sought Invite for Laureate at State Dept. Dinner

September 2, 2015

On the campaign trail Hillary Clinton has been critical of for-profit colleges and has called for tougher regulation of the sector.
During her first year as secretary of state, however, Clinton pushed for the inclusion of a large for-profit education company at a higher education policy dinner hosted at the U.S. Department of State.

Clinton wrote in an email to a top aide that she wanted to add Laureate Education to the guest list for the event. Describing Laureate as “the fastest growing college network in the world,” Clinton said the company was “started by Doug Becker who Bill likes a lot.”
"It's a for-profit model that should be represented," she added in the August 2009 email. A senior vice president at Laureate was added to the guest list, a separate email shows.

Former President Bill Clinton several months later became an honorary chancellor for Laureate International Universities, a role for which he was paid $16.5 million between 2010 and 2014. Clinton stepped down from the position earlier this year.
Other attendees at the closed-door event, according to a list emailed to Hillary Clinton, included the leaders of Yale University, Cornell University, New York University, the University of California at Davis, Bryn Mawr College, Berea College and Houston Community College.

https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/09/02/clinton-sought-invite-laureate-state-dept-dinner

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Bill Clinton $16.5 Mill Fm 4-Profit Laureate Int'l Universities HRC Got thm Seat At State ept w/Yale (Original Post) amborin Jun 2016 OP
5 days Gomez163 Jun 2016 #1
Is that when you get to take off your blinders... Wilms Jun 2016 #2
that's part of their winning us over. this is going to be a strange ghost town in five days roguevalley Jun 2016 #44
Call it Skinner! bahrbearian Jun 2016 #18
Yeah that awful truth stuff is really annoying isn't it? Armstead Jun 2016 #45
Are you voting for Trump in the general? WhiteTara Jun 2016 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author Armstead Jun 2016 #46
"$16.5 million between 2010 and 2014.' !!! pangaia Jun 2016 #4
This incessant truth telling must stop Fairgo Jun 2016 #6
Well, we can only do it for a few more days... pangaia Jun 2016 #7
What was corrupt? annavictorious Jun 2016 #9
What in the world are you talking about? pangaia Jun 2016 #12
lol panader0 Jun 2016 #16
Which part? pangaia Jun 2016 #17
"I'm a Doctor ,I help sick children, Want to buy some Cluster Bombs" bahrbearian Jun 2016 #22
If you charged $30,000 for giving a flu shot, you would be morally corrupt Armstead Jun 2016 #49
A dinner invitation is greasing the wheels? creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #52
Seems like it on DU. 840high Jun 2016 #33
That is a lot of money, and why... scscholar Jun 2016 #13
Bingo! nt snappyturtle Jun 2016 #31
Absolutely correct. 840high Jun 2016 #39
It's one more reason why she's the wrong candidate. CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #50
I hate putting people on ignore but I guess it's time. writes3000 Jun 2016 #5
I don't understand what point you're trying to make. annavictorious Jun 2016 #8
At least the Clintons didn't bankrupt the institution through questionable, annavictorious Jun 2016 #10
Tick tock...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #11
Okay Sid--what is it about the post that won't be allowed after the "tick tock" is done? panader0 Jun 2016 #19
Skinner's comments... SidDithers Jun 2016 #21
I see no personal commentary from the OP. panader0 Jun 2016 #23
History plays a part... SidDithers Jun 2016 #24
There is no doubt that amborin is a Bernie supporter. panader0 Jun 2016 #25
Whatever. Post what you want and take your chances...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #34
Didn't know that rule had gone in effect yet. Raster Jun 2016 #29
I'm having a hard time connecting the the invisable dots annavictorious Jun 2016 #14
They were accredited Trenzalore Jun 2016 #15
Interesting to see what is promoted... NCTraveler Jun 2016 #20
Trump is not an ex-2 term president. They don't compare for ill or for libdem4life Jun 2016 #27
I'm just getting started when it comes to trashing Trump. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #28
How convenient. Oh I read it all right. He's small potatoes, IMO, libdem4life Jun 2016 #30
. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #32
X number of days left (to dissent) is the Current Chant. libdem4life Jun 2016 #36
I get it. Nt NCTraveler Jun 2016 #38
What is wrong with Carter and other ex-presidents? libdem4life Jun 2016 #26
Carter has character. 840high Jun 2016 #41
... libdem4life Jun 2016 #42
The looming debt bubble. Skwmom Jun 2016 #35
I looked into their Master's Program. The sheer cost and the cheerleading libdem4life Jun 2016 #37
Laureate isn't the most hideous for-profit ed group. You might know their Walden U product aikoaiko Jun 2016 #40
I would have been able to get my Master's Degree entirely online. libdem4life Jun 2016 #43
You're right it is more than optics. I just meant that given the aikoaiko Jun 2016 #47
Well, that is an understatement. Unfortunately, given the post title, libdem4life Jun 2016 #48
What exacxtly is the problem with the dinner invitation? annavictorious Jun 2016 #51
K & R AzDar Jun 2016 #53

Response to WhiteTara (Reply #3)

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
4. "$16.5 million between 2010 and 2014.' !!!
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jun 2016

Yikers!! And that was just for 'honorary chancellor.' What does an honorary chancellor do? :&gt )


" Clinton stepped down from the position earlier this year. "


I'll bet he did.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
9. What was corrupt?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016

I'm a doctor. I take money for helping sick children.
Yikers!

See how ridiculous it all sounds when you're not a conspiracy theorist or a Trump operative?

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
17. Which part?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:21 PM
Jun 2016

Last edited Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)

What in the world are you talking about?

OR

Wo bu dong?

or both..



Wakarimasen.


 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
49. If you charged $30,000 for giving a flu shot, you would be morally corrupt
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:07 PM
Jun 2016

A champion of education reform makes $16 million off one of the rip off college systems through her husband.And greases the wheels for them while in a high political office.

And that doesn't bother you just a little bit?

Think what that $16 million could have done towards making the college system more affordable. But having an entree into government is worth it, I guess.

 

scscholar

(2,902 posts)
13. That is a lot of money, and why...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jun 2016

Hillary should back-off of the Trump U attacks. It could backfire.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
8. I don't understand what point you're trying to make.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:25 PM
Jun 2016

Representatives from the company were invited to a dinner? Bill Clinton was a salaried honorary chancellor at the institution for four years? Therefore...what?

According to the website you linked to, Laureate Educations services 800,000 students, many of whom live in areas
"outside of the U.S.... where in many countries demand for higher education outstrips supply, and where heavily subsidized public universities are often highly selective, Laureate identified a need for reputable, comprehensive private universities."

So what's your point? That somebody did something wrong?

Exactly what would that be?

Including a for-profit provider of higher education in a dinner invitation?

Even if the group services hundreds of thousands of students in emerging nations who would otherwise have little or no access to higher education?

Hillary was right about artful smears. It's getting pathetic.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/10/10/laureates-growing-global-network-institutions

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
10. At least the Clintons didn't bankrupt the institution through questionable,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jun 2016

self-enriching loan deals, cause it to close through gross mismanagement, and then safely land on a hilltop in Vermont thanks to a golden parachute they had previously extorted.

Yikers!
See how that works, Scooby?

panader0

(25,816 posts)
19. Okay Sid--what is it about the post that won't be allowed after the "tick tock" is done?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jun 2016

Is it not factual? Is it slanted somehow because it doesn't praise HRC?
Seriously, this coming censoring is a curious subject to me. Please explain how
posts such as these will be in violation. Because if factual posts, even if they are unflattering,
are not allowed, what then?

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
21. Skinner's comments...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:39 PM
Jun 2016
What criticism of Hillary Clinton will be permitted? (link)

Unfortunately, there is not going to be a hard line between "fine" and "not fine."

But basically, I think it comes down to this:

If you are criticizing Hillary Clinton because you want to help her succeed, then you'll be fine. But if you are criticizing Hillary Clinton because you want to tear her down, then you won't be fine.

Now, I'm not a mind reader and I can't know for certain what everyone's intentions are. But I think that if the criticism is coming from a place of "wanting her to succeed" then that will be reflected in the tone and substance of the post. If the criticism is coming from a place of "wanting to tear her down" then that will be reflected in the tone and substance of the post. If you are here on DU then you are supposed to be supporting the Democratic nominee against the Republican nominee in the general election -- it shouldn't be very hard to write a post in a way that sounds like it.

I believe that it will be possible to discuss every substantive issue that DUers might want to discuss.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=5833

Given the poster's history, and the dozens of OPs they've posted in GD: P, it's obvious that this poster is posting criticism from a place of "wanting to tear her down" and not a place of "wanting her to succeed".

Your mileage may vary.

Sid

panader0

(25,816 posts)
23. I see no personal commentary from the OP.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:47 PM
Jun 2016

Just a linked article about Bill Clinton's involvement with a school.
I fail to see how this can be construed as critical, merely factual.
I am serious about trying to define the new limitations on posting that we'll see soon.
A poster's history should have nothing to do with an article.
Is the source bad?
If these kinds of posts won't be allowed, I wonder what will.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
24. History plays a part...
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:49 PM
Jun 2016

Sort GD: P by author, and look at the OPs that this poster has started in the last week.

Then tell me if you think they're posting from a positing of wanting to support Hillary, or tear her down.

Sid

panader0

(25,816 posts)
25. There is no doubt that amborin is a Bernie supporter.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:56 PM
Jun 2016

But does the article itself, which has zero commentary from amborin, violate the new code?
The 16th will start a new history, and posts made during the primary should have no influence on the new policy.
Does the article tear HRC down? Does it merely show the history of BC's involvement with a school?
I truly do not understand the limits of the new tick tock thing.

 

annavictorious

(934 posts)
14. I'm having a hard time connecting the the invisable dots
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:02 PM
Jun 2016

with my magic Sean Hannity invisible dot connecting spectrometer. Maybe someone can help me.

Funny,the only other places carrying this "story" are right wing websites Powerline and Hot Air.

Clever of the OP to link to their link, rather than making the usual berniebro/conspiracy theorist rookie mistake of linking to the original right wing source.

Yikers!

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
27. Trump is not an ex-2 term president. They don't compare for ill or for
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jun 2016

good of anyone and he's a very willing red herring. Laughing all the way to the bank.

Trump U and the Clintons multi-millions. He already had his...that's his excuse. What a sorry state of affairs when this is the comparison we've reduced our party to...devastating.

Time to fess up and take the heat off us poor Democrats.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. I'm just getting started when it comes to trashing Trump.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:07 PM
Jun 2016

I won't be turning the heat down. Please read what you just wrote. It is overt justification.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
30. How convenient. Oh I read it all right. He's small potatoes, IMO,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:16 PM
Jun 2016

to what the FBI et all are looking at. And yes, I know the truth is forbidden in "so many" days. LOL. Like censorship, even self censorship, matters. It just makes it more comfy for some. The political world does not begin and end here.

We'd best clean up our own messes first. He needs to be prosecuted for whatever he did wrong at Trump U. Our own needs to held responsible for her mess and those whose reputations are being harmed by "endorsing" said mess.

The Bible says, why smite the mote in thy brother's eye, when there is a beam in thine own.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
32. .
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:28 PM
Jun 2016

"And yes, I know the truth is forbidden in "so many" days. LOL. "

I don't recall ever saying anything about "so many" days.

As for your bible verse.... Because they want to take our rights. They want less regulation. They want an even more regressive form of taxation.

Not that I think it work in this situation to start.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
36. X number of days left (to dissent) is the Current Chant.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:34 PM
Jun 2016

My post had nothing to do with the "issues". It has to do with the candidate's ethics and the OP. That we have one who has amassed multi-millions ... that's the issue for discussion for just a few more days. Then we pretend it's all good.

This post will not be allowed at that time, as I understand it. And you don't get it?





 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
26. What is wrong with Carter and other ex-presidents?
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 07:58 PM
Jun 2016

If this is the status quo, seems a few of them missed the cruise boat.

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
35. The looming debt bubble.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:31 PM
Jun 2016




One of Laureate's schools, Walden University, which is being sued accounts for lot of guaranteed student loan debt:

Walden University $756,336,024 BILLIONS just in 2013-2104.


http://finance.yahoo.com/news/just-20-schools-got--6-6-billion-of-u-s--gov-t-grad-student-loans-143717469.html#
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
37. I looked into their Master's Program. The sheer cost and the cheerleading
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:36 PM
Jun 2016

that I could get all of it with no credit check and easy repayment terms and multiple calls back, after I declined their "offer". It's a money laundering system, IMHO.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
40. Laureate isn't the most hideous for-profit ed group. You might know their Walden U product
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:41 PM
Jun 2016

In general one pays about twice as much for an online Walden degree as they would for an online degree from a public university.

For example, in my state you can earn an online BS in Psychology for just under 30K and a on-campus degree for 20K, but it costs 60K at Walden.

As far as I know Laureate has not been caught defrauding financial aid by offering correspondence courses as distance education courses that require faculty-student interaction/engagement.

Still, I wish Bill were helping public universities more and not these more expensive private for-profit universities. The optics aren't good.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
43. I would have been able to get my Master's Degree entirely online.
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jun 2016

It's more than optics. It's cash and pressure and indebtedness. The State Universities required every other weekend classes. At the time I had no idea about this. It's insane.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
47. You're right it is more than optics. I just meant that given the
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Jun 2016

prominence of affordable college education, Bill working for Laureate is bad optics for HRC.
 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
48. Well, that is an understatement. Unfortunately, given the post title,
Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:05 PM
Jun 2016

it's a bit more than just optics. I'm censoring myself already.

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