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Clinton Sought Invite for Laureate at State Dept. Dinner
September 2, 2015
On the campaign trail Hillary Clinton has been critical of for-profit colleges and has called for tougher regulation of the sector.
During her first year as secretary of state, however, Clinton pushed for the inclusion of a large for-profit education company at a higher education policy dinner hosted at the U.S. Department of State.
Clinton wrote in an email to a top aide that she wanted to add Laureate Education to the guest list for the event. Describing Laureate as the fastest growing college network in the world, Clinton said the company was started by Doug Becker who Bill likes a lot.
"It's a for-profit model that should be represented," she added in the August 2009 email. A senior vice president at Laureate was added to the guest list, a separate email shows.
Former President Bill Clinton several months later became an honorary chancellor for Laureate International Universities, a role for which he was paid $16.5 million between 2010 and 2014. Clinton stepped down from the position earlier this year.
Other attendees at the closed-door event, according to a list emailed to Hillary Clinton, included the leaders of Yale University, Cornell University, New York University, the University of California at Davis, Bryn Mawr College, Berea College and Houston Community College.
https://www.insidehighered.com/quicktakes/2015/09/02/clinton-sought-invite-laureate-state-dept-dinner
Gomez163
(2,039 posts)Wilms
(26,795 posts)...and put on a blind-fold?
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)WhiteTara
(29,704 posts)Response to WhiteTara (Reply #3)
Armstead This message was self-deleted by its author.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Yikers!! And that was just for 'honorary chancellor.' What does an honorary chancellor do? :> )
" Clinton stepped down from the position earlier this year. "
I'll bet he did.
Fairgo
(1,571 posts)Corruption is now a public good.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)I'm a doctor. I take money for helping sick children.
Yikers!
See how ridiculous it all sounds when you're not a conspiracy theorist or a Trump operative?
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Wo bu dong.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Last edited Sat Jun 11, 2016, 09:11 PM - Edit history (1)
What in the world are you talking about?OR
Wo bu dong?
or both..
Wakarimasen.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)A champion of education reform makes $16 million off one of the rip off college systems through her husband.And greases the wheels for them while in a high political office.
And that doesn't bother you just a little bit?
Think what that $16 million could have done towards making the college system more affordable. But having an entree into government is worth it, I guess.
creeksneakers2
(7,473 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)scscholar
(2,902 posts)Hillary should back-off of the Trump U attacks. It could backfire.
snappyturtle
(14,656 posts)840high
(17,196 posts)CanadaexPat
(496 posts)writes3000
(4,734 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)Representatives from the company were invited to a dinner? Bill Clinton was a salaried honorary chancellor at the institution for four years? Therefore...what?
According to the website you linked to, Laureate Educations services 800,000 students, many of whom live in areas
"outside of the U.S.... where in many countries demand for higher education outstrips supply, and where heavily subsidized public universities are often highly selective, Laureate identified a need for reputable, comprehensive private universities."
So what's your point? That somebody did something wrong?
Exactly what would that be?
Including a for-profit provider of higher education in a dinner invitation?
Even if the group services hundreds of thousands of students in emerging nations who would otherwise have little or no access to higher education?
Hillary was right about artful smears. It's getting pathetic.
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2013/10/10/laureates-growing-global-network-institutions
annavictorious
(934 posts)self-enriching loan deals, cause it to close through gross mismanagement, and then safely land on a hilltop in Vermont thanks to a golden parachute they had previously extorted.
Yikers!
See how that works, Scooby?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
panader0
(25,816 posts)Is it not factual? Is it slanted somehow because it doesn't praise HRC?
Seriously, this coming censoring is a curious subject to me. Please explain how
posts such as these will be in violation. Because if factual posts, even if they are unflattering,
are not allowed, what then?
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Unfortunately, there is not going to be a hard line between "fine" and "not fine."
But basically, I think it comes down to this:
If you are criticizing Hillary Clinton because you want to help her succeed, then you'll be fine. But if you are criticizing Hillary Clinton because you want to tear her down, then you won't be fine.
Now, I'm not a mind reader and I can't know for certain what everyone's intentions are. But I think that if the criticism is coming from a place of "wanting her to succeed" then that will be reflected in the tone and substance of the post. If the criticism is coming from a place of "wanting to tear her down" then that will be reflected in the tone and substance of the post. If you are here on DU then you are supposed to be supporting the Democratic nominee against the Republican nominee in the general election -- it shouldn't be very hard to write a post in a way that sounds like it.
I believe that it will be possible to discuss every substantive issue that DUers might want to discuss.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=5833
Given the poster's history, and the dozens of OPs they've posted in GD: P, it's obvious that this poster is posting criticism from a place of "wanting to tear her down" and not a place of "wanting her to succeed".
Your mileage may vary.
Sid
panader0
(25,816 posts)Just a linked article about Bill Clinton's involvement with a school.
I fail to see how this can be construed as critical, merely factual.
I am serious about trying to define the new limitations on posting that we'll see soon.
A poster's history should have nothing to do with an article.
Is the source bad?
If these kinds of posts won't be allowed, I wonder what will.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sort GD: P by author, and look at the OPs that this poster has started in the last week.
Then tell me if you think they're posting from a positing of wanting to support Hillary, or tear her down.
Sid
panader0
(25,816 posts)But does the article itself, which has zero commentary from amborin, violate the new code?
The 16th will start a new history, and posts made during the primary should have no influence on the new policy.
Does the article tear HRC down? Does it merely show the history of BC's involvement with a school?
I truly do not understand the limits of the new tick tock thing.
SidDithers
(44,228 posts)Sid
Raster
(20,998 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)with my magic Sean Hannity invisible dot connecting spectrometer. Maybe someone can help me.
Funny,the only other places carrying this "story" are right wing websites Powerline and Hot Air.
Clever of the OP to link to their link, rather than making the usual berniebro/conspiracy theorist rookie mistake of linking to the original right wing source.
Yikers!
Trenzalore
(2,331 posts)Trump University wasn't even a university. It was a real estate scam.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Right after we started trashing Trump U.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)good of anyone and he's a very willing red herring. Laughing all the way to the bank.
Trump U and the Clintons multi-millions. He already had his...that's his excuse. What a sorry state of affairs when this is the comparison we've reduced our party to...devastating.
Time to fess up and take the heat off us poor Democrats.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I won't be turning the heat down. Please read what you just wrote. It is overt justification.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)to what the FBI et all are looking at. And yes, I know the truth is forbidden in "so many" days. LOL. Like censorship, even self censorship, matters. It just makes it more comfy for some. The political world does not begin and end here.
We'd best clean up our own messes first. He needs to be prosecuted for whatever he did wrong at Trump U. Our own needs to held responsible for her mess and those whose reputations are being harmed by "endorsing" said mess.
The Bible says, why smite the mote in thy brother's eye, when there is a beam in thine own.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"And yes, I know the truth is forbidden in "so many" days. LOL. "
I don't recall ever saying anything about "so many" days.
As for your bible verse.... Because they want to take our rights. They want less regulation. They want an even more regressive form of taxation.
Not that I think it work in this situation to start.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)My post had nothing to do with the "issues". It has to do with the candidate's ethics and the OP. That we have one who has amassed multi-millions ... that's the issue for discussion for just a few more days. Then we pretend it's all good.
This post will not be allowed at that time, as I understand it. And you don't get it?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)libdem4life
(13,877 posts)If this is the status quo, seems a few of them missed the cruise boat.
840high
(17,196 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)One of Laureate's schools, Walden University, which is being sued accounts for lot of guaranteed student loan debt:
Walden University $756,336,024 BILLIONS just in 2013-2104.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/just-20-schools-got--6-6-billion-of-u-s--gov-t-grad-student-loans-143717469.html#
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)that I could get all of it with no credit check and easy repayment terms and multiple calls back, after I declined their "offer". It's a money laundering system, IMHO.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)In general one pays about twice as much for an online Walden degree as they would for an online degree from a public university.
For example, in my state you can earn an online BS in Psychology for just under 30K and a on-campus degree for 20K, but it costs 60K at Walden.
As far as I know Laureate has not been caught defrauding financial aid by offering correspondence courses as distance education courses that require faculty-student interaction/engagement.
Still, I wish Bill were helping public universities more and not these more expensive private for-profit universities. The optics aren't good.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)It's more than optics. It's cash and pressure and indebtedness. The State Universities required every other weekend classes. At the time I had no idea about this. It's insane.
aikoaiko
(34,169 posts)prominence of affordable college education, Bill working for Laureate is bad optics for HRC.
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)it's a bit more than just optics. I'm censoring myself already.
annavictorious
(934 posts)It's not like they profited by bankrupting a formerly-thriving small college in rural Vermont.
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/what-happened-at-burlington-college/482973/