2016 Postmortem
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Part 2 is my favorite. Plus it's off by more than 30 years, the Socialist Workers Party nominated Linda Jenness in 1972.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)She ran for the Equal Rights Party.
That said, 3 years ago, if I wanted to vote for a former wal-mart board of director, who supported iraq, I might have been accused of being a republican.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)MattP
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Gothmog
(145,176 posts)BobbyDrake
(2,542 posts)After all, it's so much easier to slap text on a photo and upload it than it is to leave the basement, go volunteer for a candidate, make phone calls, visit neighborhoods, etc.
"Online activism" is an oxymoron.
randr
(12,412 posts)Shirley Anita St. Hill Chisholm (November 30, 1924 January 1, 2005) was an American politician, educator, and author.[1] In 1968, she became the first African American woman elected to the United States Congress,[2] and represented New York's 12th Congressional District for seven terms from 1969 to 1983. In 1972, she became the first major-party black candidate for President of the United States, and the first woman ever to run for the Democratic Party's presidential nomination.
Step aside Hillary.
DavidDvorkin
(19,475 posts)randr
(12,412 posts)And remember how proud Shirley would have been.
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)But, I can sympathize to a point. No one talked about Hillary or Obama following in Shirley Chisholm's footsteps.
Aside from that her style is as macho and nationalistic as Teddy Roosevelt. People like her because she's "tough." We have had many many bullies as president through our history and I was happy that Obama moved away from that style of interaction and rhetoric.
This is a return to a more masculine style of governing no matter who wins. Unfortunately, it reinforces the stereotype that a woman must be as ruthless as the most competitive men to succeed. I would like to see her adopt a demeanor more similar to Obama and even her husband when it comes to foreign policy. I am hoping that this hawkishness will be more about playing up the SOS background than what appears to be an agenda worthy of neocons.
caquillo
(521 posts)That's not true. Her name was evoked plenty in 2008, because of the novelty of the Democratic primaries -- a tight race between a black man and a woman seeking to be the first nominee of a major party. Since Chisholm was a black woman who ran for the Democratic Party in 1972, people drew parallels.
Here's one, for example:
http://www.seattlepi.com/local/opinion/article/Shirley-Chisholm-broke-ground-before-Barack-Obama-1265680.php
loyalsister
(13,390 posts)It is undeniable, however that in 2008 the talk was about the "firsts." Embellishing the story of voters being a consequential part of history was too romantic for the media to pass up.
To add:
You could also argue that Bernie stands on her shoulders, as Shirley Chisholm's campaign was about challenging politics as usual.. "Unbought and Unbossed."
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I voted for both of them. If I'd been old enough to vote, I might have thrown Jenness a vote in '72. I definitely would have voted for Chisholm, given an opportunity.
My opposition to Clinton has nothing to do with her gender, and I'm ahead of the curve when it comes to those who urge me to vote for her because her "moment" is "historic."
I don't think this is "stupid" at all, although, at this point, the only thing that's going to stop # 1 is her legal issues catching up to her.
Demsrule86
(68,556 posts)She is the nominee...and a woman who could not even vote? You compare that...done with Bernie crazy. Trashing now
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)caquillo
(521 posts)She's the presumptive nominee. Jesus, how many times do we need to explain this to people? They always call someone the presumptive nominee after the primaries but before the convention, where it is made official.
Furthermore, she's the first woman to win the primaries and become the presumptive nominee for a major political party. The Green Party and others like it don't count, since their candidates don't end up on the ballot in all fifty states, and they don't have a rat's ass in hell of being elected, anyway. Like it or not, our country only has two major parties -- the Democrats and the Republicans. Since the mid-1800s, we've only had either a Democratic or Republican president. Neither party has ever nominated a woman to be their candidate for president... until now. That's why Hillary is the first and a game changer.
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)If someone said,
this isn't the first nomination process in which two candidates stayed in through the final states, it happened in 2008,
that wouldn't mean the person thought 2008 was the first time.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)I'm glad she scurried off to the fringe Greens.
Anyways, 3 more days til this kind of thread goes *poof*
pdsimdars
(6,007 posts)censorship too. Real Americans don't accept authoritarianism over ruling their freedom of speech, no matter who is doing it.
I have a really good brain, but don't think I'll stick around long after the cult curtain drops down. Have fun in fantasyland.
Tarc
(10,476 posts)i.e. Republicans. Neither you or I have the right to speech here.