Sanders Could Still Win Calfornia! Several Million Votes Still Uncounted in the Democratic Primary!
With Five Million Votes Still Uncounted and Unreported in the Democratic Primary, Sanders Could Still Win California!
By Dave Lindorff
June 13, 2016
FLASH! The Los Angeles Times, actually a Hillary Clinton backer, reports that not 3.6 million votes, as reported on election night, but 8 million votes were actually cast in the California Democratic primary — a turnout of 47%. According to the Times article, the Secretary of State of California, Alex Padilla, concedes that 2.5 million of those votes, mostly mail-in ballots from young people and Hispanic voters, or Bernie’s strong point, have been counted, and another 2 million have yet to be counted by local county officials.
But Padilla has also not reported on what the results were of those other 2.5 million votes that have been counted thus far since election day. (This even though his office did report the count of early mail-in votes on election day before people had even finished voting.)
All the votes are legitimate and need to be counted — by hand. As long as a ballot was received by the end of the day Friday, June 10, and were postmarked by election day, they are valid.
The Times said that people should prepare to see the vote totals of not just the presidential race, but also down-ticket races, change dramatically.
The problem is that the Secretary of State has 30 days to certify the votes and declare winners. That would be July 8! So far, most reporting on the uncounted votes has been limited to the alternative media. The NY Times and the big TV and radio news organizations haven’t said a word about it. The Washington Post did mention the uncounted votes, buy scoffed at the notion that they could change the results, making the bogus argument that Clinton had won among early mail-in voters by 58-44% — but of course she was way ahead in the polls than before Sanders really began campaigning in California, and the uncounted votes are also last-minute voters when Sanders was tied or ahead in the polls.
Read the full article at:
http://www.nationofchange.org/news/2016/06/13/five-million-votes-still-uncounted-unreported-democratic-primary-sanders-still-win-california/
Wednesday's big question: How many uncounted California ballots?
by John Myers
June 10, 2016
3:30 A.M.
Tuesday may be in the record books, but the new day in California arrives without a full tally of votes cast in the state's presidential primary.
And that wasn't unexpected.
With California's evolution to a state where most voters cast their ballots by mail, political watchers have concluded that election day has turned into election week .
The independent Target Book, a publication that handicaps congressional and legislative races, called it "probable" that as many as 3 million ballots could remain uncounted by time Tuesday night ended. And traditionally, said the analysts, those ballots tend to have come from Democrats, young and Latino voters.
As of early Wednesday morning, about 5 million ballots had already been counted, but there was no official word on how many remained. State election law gives counties 30 days to finish their canvassing of votes cast. Secretary of State Alex Padilla must receive certified results from each of California's 58 counties by July 8.
5:31 PM
As the week ends, 2.4 million uncounted ballots from California's primary
For the politically curious, it's the best guessing game around: What's in the uncounted ballots from election day, and how many of them will change closely watched races across the state?
On Friday afternoon, Secretary of State Alex Padilla reported that there were 2,423,607 uncounted ballots statewide. About two-thirds of those are vote-by-mail ballots, with three Southern California counties leading the way: Los Angeles, San Diego and Orange.
Reports from a number of the state's 58 counties haven't changed for a few days, so expect the figures to shift pretty noticeably by early next week.
And one other part of the process: This is the first year in which ballots that arrive up to three days late -- Friday would be the deadline -- can be counted. So the number of ballots on hand could also change.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-ca-california-primary-wednesday-s-big-question-how-many-1465375928-htmlstory.html
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The most recent updates from the California Secretary of State shows the following:
Number of votes cast for candidates in the Democratic Presidential Primary: 4, 199,420
(you get this by adding together the results on this page):
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/president/party/democratic/
Number of votes counted thus far in the June 7 election (including all Presidential primary ballots and non-presidential primary ballots): 7.227,039
(this number is found at the bottom of the sixth column of the County Reporting Status report):
http://vote.sos.ca.gov/returns/status/
Dividing the number of Democratic Presidential Ballots counted thus far by the total number of ballots counted thus far establishes that around 58 percent of the ballots cast in the June 7 election were Democratic Presidential Primary ballots. The remaining 42 percent were cast in the Republican, Libertarian, Green, AIP, and Peace and Freedom Presidential Primaries, or were cast by NPP voters who didn't request a presidential primary ballot).
The number of ballots still to be processed has declined to under 2 million (as the number of processed ballots has climbed from 6 plus million to over 7 million). It currently stands at 1,959,908 (of which 1.17 million are unprocessed ballots, 713,000 (approx) are provisional and 73,000 are "other"
. http://elections.cdn.sos.ca.gov/statewide-elections/2016-primary/unprocessed-ballots-report.pdf
Taking 58 percent of the 1.960 million unprocessed ballots, one can estimate that there are 1.136 million Democratic Presidential Primary votes left to be counted. Sanders would need to get 71 percent of them to catch Clinton.
Your mistake is that you calculated the percentage of Presidential Primary votes that were cast in the Democratic Presidential Primary. But that ignores the fact that a significant number of ballots were cast by NPP voters who didn't request a Presidential Primary ballot. This isn't surprising since NPP voters who lean republican didn't have the option of requesting a republican presidential primary ballot.
By the way, my estimates are consistent with reports by the California Target Book, an election monitoring group that was among the first to publicize the large number of unprocessed ballots in California. http://www.californiatargetbook.com/ctb/default/assets/File/CA_Target_Book_-_06-06_-_Media_Advisory_-_Primary_Voter_Turnout.pdf
One of the things they pointed out was that pre-election day mail in votes were running 49% Democratic Presidential Primary and 34 percent Republican presidential primary. That leaves 18 percent of the mail-in votes to be accounted for as votes cast in one of the other presidential primaries (a small number) or cast by NPP voters using a non-presidential primary ballot. The current numbers indicate that the two major parties primaries account for around 85% of the votes counted thus far, leaving 18 percent to be accounted for among the other presidential primaries and NPP votes.
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Response to pat_k (Reply #67)
And those votes will be cast by the delegates at the national convention, which doesn't start until July 25th!
And so, no counting of any votes has even started yet.
With room to spare!!
And all 15M votes are Bernie's, I'm so sure of it! I can just FEEL the truth of it!
Bernie wins CA!!!11
