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[democrattotheend]

1. I just saw this on twitter

It's pretty disturbing, because it confirms a lot of what I have suspected all along. I am prepared to support Hillary in the general, but the feeling that the party was setting it up to shoo her in without a meaningful primary was one of the reasons I decided not to support her in the primaries. After seeing this I don't blame Bernie for refusing to just get in line and smile pretty.

[Kelvin Mace]

29. If she gets Warren on the ticket, I will vote for Warren

Otherwise I will write in Sanders.

[Else You Are Mad]

2. Nope, nothing to see here folks...

Just remember that Hillary isn't Trump... And:

SQUIRREL!

[pantsonfire]

3. These were leaked by "Guccifer 2.0"

Please remember that these documents are UNPROVEN AND UNVERIFIED, though I have yet to hear any news of the DNC denying these memos are fake.

[niyad]

5. you might have wanted to post this bit in the OP.

[pantsonfire]

8. Good point, I'll add an update...n/t

[niyad]

9. even when there is an indication that editing is in order?

[pantsonfire]

10. Yeah, you're correct. n/t

[Else You Are Mad]

6. Remember though...

How the DNC came out ahead of this and assured us that nothing but oppo and emails were stolen. That speaks volumes for me because otherwise, why would they even announce anything -- they knew some documents that would hurt the DNC and Hillary were about to be released and we're hoping to make it seem like it was nothing that people couldn't get if they read newspapers about Trump.

[Kelvin Mace]

36. Well, DWS just admitted they were hacked a year ago

So, I tend to suspect they are genuine. What's the old Nixon-era saying: "I never believe anything until it has been officially denied".

[FreakinDJ]

4. Nice to know voters count

[2banon]

7. Sure, who didn't know since 2008?

no big surprise, but thanks for the documented evidence.

Is anyone denying she's been front loaded since forever?

[TwilightZone]

11. Sanders had recently entered the race. The DNC thinking that HRC would be the nominee at that point

shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who understands context.

[Else You Are Mad]

13. But

DWS vehemently denied multiple times that any such things were going on behind the scenes. We all knew that the DNC wanted Hillary but we didn't know that it was this wide spread.

[TwilightZone]

23. Assuming she's going to be the nominee and "doing things" behind the scenes are two different things

The latter isn't proven by what's posted. It's about how to differentiate the GOP nominee from the Dem nominee, who they were assuming at the time would be HRC.

Context is important. If all one is going to do is see "HRC" and declare a nefarious plot, one should take some time to see what was actually written. It doesn't say what the OP thinks it does.

[Else You Are Mad]

28. Oh I agree.

But it does give credence to some of the allegations (not election fraud) that the Sanders campaign was alleging about the behind the scenes shenanigans that was going on.

[TwilightZone]

32. No, it doesn't. A) it's to the DNC, not from. B) on the date of the memo, she was the only candidate

in the race. Sanders officially announced the same day.

Referring to HRC as the candidate makes sense if she's the only one in the race, no?

[pantsonfire]

14. He formally entered the race one day before...

Bernie Sanders for President
Announced: April 30, 2015
Formal launch: May 26, 2015

[TwilightZone]

24. Which confirms my point.

Thanks.

Edit: it wasn't the day before. May 26, 2015 = May 26, 2015

[CorkySt.Clair]

22. They don't understand context.

They do understand knee jerk and fantastical conspiracy theories that always involve evil Hillary.

[randome]

12. Sanders' campaign was officially launched on the very date of the memo.

So until then, there was no opposition to Clinton. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

Sanders announced his intention to seek the Democratic Party's nomination for president on April 30, 2015, in an address on the Capitol lawn. His campaign was officially launched on May 26, 2015, in Burlington.

What a devastating leak.

Next up for your conspiratorial enjoyment: "Bigfoot is putting alien DNA into all our vaccinations!" Remember, you heard it here, first.

[pantsonfire]

17. The day after actually...not devastating, just pointing out what we've known all along..

They picked HRC and helped her win.

[randome]

18. How do you 'pick' the only candidate running at the time?

[CorkySt.Clair]

26. Remember he was at like 2 percent when he entered.

Sanders devotees love to bloviate about how far Bernie has come since he entered. The DNC was right to view his campaign at that stage as rather meaningless given his standing in the polls. The devotees want it both ways. They want him praised for making a race of it, but they also are upset the DNC didn't take him seriously enough to view him as a threat to the nomination which was obviously a miscalculation on the DNC's part.

[randome]

31. But what trumps even that is that the memo isn't from the DNC, after all.

Blue Meany caught that below.

[CorkySt.Clair]

34. Thanks for the update.

What a surprise their slurs are false.

[workinclasszero]

15. A super popular democratic politician

that came in a close second to President Obama the last time was considered the front runner before the primary started?

Well shit nobody could have seen that coming.

Is this supposed to be scandalous? Illegal?

[pantsonfire]

20. It just shows that the DNC helped one candidate throughout the process...

Yes, she was the runner up by a much closer margin, but the DNC didn't decide one year and six months before election day who was going to be the democratic nominee. The point is I think, that the Democratic National Committee decided based on the probability of candidates who was going to win. They started talking about Republicans already, it really doesn't seem like they thought anyone else was going to have a chance. And when someone may have had one, it appears they had no Goals and Strategies for Bernie Sanders, he's not a true democrat.

[workinclasszero]

30. Bernie wasn't any kind of democrat until a few months ago

[Blue Meany]

16. This does not appear to be an internal DNC document,

since it envisions "working with the DNC and other allied groups" in attacking Republican candidates. My guess is that it came from one of the pro-Hillary SuperPacs such as American Bridge 21st Century, which does opposition research on Republicans. If this is the case, this document is not, at least not by itself, evidence of bias or collaboration in promoting Hillary Clinton; it simply shows that they were sharing ideas and information.

[randome]

19. Good catch. And another conspiracy theory bites the dust.

[CorkySt.Clair]

37. So more baseless slurs against Democrats then?

What a surprise.

[onenote]

21. This was sent to the DNC. It doesn't say who sent it or who wrote it.

As for it assuming Clinton would be the nominee, that wasn't a particularly outrageous assumption at that point in time given that Sanders was still polling in the teens (and was polling behind Biden in some instances).

You might take note of the fact that the memo doesn't contemplate Trump being the repub nominee -- again, not a particularly outrageous assumption or one suggesting that the DNC didn't want Trump to get the nomination. It simply reflects that at the time Trump was polling in single digits and not considered a significant threat.

Strategy memos from May 2015 are hardly an indication of some conspiracy. They're simply someone working off of assumptions that seemed reasonable at the time.

[onehandle]

25. IT'S A CONSPIRACY! nt

[Sancho]

27. Fantastic plan that DWS had to put a woman in the WH!!

Create a "sparing partner" to create interest and keep in the news, but never able to really win!

A brilliant plan that seems to have worked well.

[tonyt53]

33. Notice that there is no mention of election fraud to ensure her winning?

Or how to coerce people into voting for her?

[Triana]

35. Almost a month AFTER Sanders (informally) announced his candidacy?

The 2016 presidential campaign of Bernie Sanders, the junior United States Senator and former Representative from Vermont, began with a formal announcement by Sanders on May 26, 2015, in Burlington, Vermont, which followed an informal announcement on April 30.[7][8] Sanders had been considered a potential candidate for President of the United States since at least September 2014 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_presidential_campaign,_2016

It is clear that DNC or whoever wrote this memo didn't consider Sanders as being in the field - at all. It was a big mistake on their part since he did so well against the establishment machinery and it's media mouthpieces.

Was this some sort of conspiracy against Sanders or just establishment-bubble blinded ignorance? Who knows?

But it was stupid.

[MattP]

38. I call bullshit

The DNC is not going to write a memo like that, and the date is even more reason to call bullshit