Clinton may not be your first choice..but she is the best choice we have going

[Peacetrain]

She will not be indicted by the FBI.. or anything else.. a whole new slew of investigations will have to be made up.. and trust me they will.. Can anyone forget the Christmas Card investigation just for starters

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1923941

I think a person who keeps trying to knee cap our nominee with these types of things (Donald) , is a brick short of a full load.. but I have full faith in the Secretary.. she has been down this road more than once.

No she was not my first choice.. but she is my ONLY choice now.. and I will happily vote for her in November..

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

1. My ballot comes with more than two choices.

[Peacetrain]

2. Mine doesn't...

[lewebley3]

8. Hillary always been the best and first choice: Her campaign was almost flawless:

Trump and fascism is what you will be supporting.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

11. I'm not voting for Trump.

[Juicy_Bellows]

26. Mine too, weird?

[PowerToThePeople]

31. And even a place

I can fill in on my own.

[CrowCityDem]

3. Her Bernie people: Clinton will get more accomplished for progressives than any third party could.

[SheilaT]

5. I keep on trying to figure out which of her stands are truly progressive.

The one about not supporting a minimum wage above $12/hour? The one about bombing all over the Middle East? The one about supporting the death penalty?

Help me out here.

And my ballot will also come with more than one choice. Or, I don't have to vote the top of the ticket at all, just vote all the down-ticket races.

Maybe I'll live long enough to see a nominee I truly want to vote for.

[CrowCityDem]

6. How is supporting a 40% increase in the minimum wage not progressive?

Bernie was on board with the movement for $10.10 just two years ago. If that was the standard then, $12 is more than reasonable as still being progressive. Not to mention that you're inaccurate. She said she supports $12 as the floor, with higher wages in areas that require them. Frankly, I'm not sure how it makes sense to have the same standards for NYC as rural Kansas.

[lewebley3]

10. The most important point is that Hillary will sign any increase in the min if she get a bill

[SheilaT]

12. Okay, then. Supporting a $12/minimum wage is progressive, just not as progressive

as supporting a $15 minimum wage.

But how about the death penalty? Her support of fracking? Those do not constitute progressive stands, at least not in my book.

[HumanityExperiment]

19. war hawk...

where is being a war hawk as HRC is, a progressive stance... EVER...

[CrowCityDem]

22. Ask Bernie, since he's voted for more wars and interventions than her.

[HumanityExperiment]

24. posting like you do without support does you more harm than good...

might want to recheck your facts and try again

[CrowCityDem]

27. Bernie voted for interventions during Clinton's administration...

... and even voted to make regime change in Iraq the official policy of the US. He is no pacifist, or anti-war candidate. He's pulled the wool over people's eyes.

[HumanityExperiment]

29. again... words... yet no supporting proof, feel free to link...

..any supporting facts here and then we can discuss

[HumanityExperiment]

34. I'll get the ball rolling...

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/10/what_hillary_clinton_wants_you_to_forget_her_disastrous_record_as_a_war_hawk/

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/24/magazine/how-hillary-clinton-became-a-hawk.html?_r=0

http://www.thenation.com/article/left-ought-worry-about-hillary-clinton-hawk-and-militarist-2016/

now feel free to refute any of which you believe is incorrect and match that up with what you believe Bernie to have done to label him as more 'war hawk' than HRC

[brooklynite]

7. Okay, let me give you a hand...

...recognizing that you have no intention of actually changing your mind.

The one about not supporting a minimum wage above $12/hour? She hasn't said that; she's said a $12 minimum wage is more achievable at the national level, and $15 should be supported at the State/Local level where the local economy calls for it.

The one about bombing all over the Middle East?. First, you know that military activity is the pervue of the President, not the Secretary of State, right? And, rather than throw out platitudes like "bomb all over the Middle East", let be honest about what was advocated: targeted military strikes in Syria and Lybia to protect civilians from Government attacks when they had the temerity to want to join in the Arab Spring and demand democratic reforms; and military strikes against know terrorist targets. The same actions President Sanders would carry out, unless you're claiming he's a pacifist who won't have any military presence outside our borders (Sanders--"When President Clinton said, "let's stop ethnic cleansing in Kosovo," I voted for that.&quot .

The one about supporting the death penalty? I don't support the Death Penalty and I wish she didn't either; but no candidate is perfect. I'm sure you wish Sanders was less pro-2nd Amendment, but we can't have perfect candidates.

There. Glad I could help you.

Oh, by the way...

[SheilaT]

13. I'm not looking for a perfect candidate.

I'm just no longer willing to settle for one who is only slightly like me.

[brooklynite]

15. Trump or Clinton...the choice is simple.

[SheilaT]

16. Here's my problem.

While I totally don't support Trump, there's a huge amount about Hillary that is extremely troubling to me. All my adult life -- and I've been voting for nearly fifty years now -- I've been told to choose the lesser of two evils. When is the day going to come when I can enthusiastically vote FOR a candidate, not simply against the other.

Here are things that are extremely important to me: No death penalty. Serious gun control. Free or at least greatly reduced cost of college. Actual medical care, at least basic medical care, for all.

I don't think Hillary truly supports any of those. Plus she favors all kinds of things that horrify me, like fracking. And her endless wars in the Middle East. And I'm sick of the excuse that a Secretary of State has to do these things. I don't recall her EVER trying seriously to negotiate a peace.

We here criticize all the Republicans who are knuckling under to their party politics and who are endorsing or at least supporting Trump. We think they should repudiate him.

Well, while Hillary is rather different from Donald, I can't live with my conscience and support her.

Not that very many of her supporters here have done much of anything but insult those of us who favor Bernie.

[brooklynite]

17. So you're supporting Trump...simple formula

Whether you're voting FOR someone or AGAINST someone, there are only two choices who have a chance of winning. I'm sure you'd like a vibrant third Party, and maybe you can join one and find the magic formula that has eluded them for the past century, but it won't happen this year.

Unless you live is a Solid Red or Solid Blue State, your vote has an impact, however small, on the outcome. If you don't vote for Clinton, you help Trump. Simple as that.

[SheilaT]

21. No I am not supporting Trump.

Nor am I supporting Gary Johnson or Jill Stein or any other candidate. I also happen not to be supporting Hillary Clinton.

I do not life in a so-called swing state. Whether my state is solid blue or red is irrelevant. There is also the problem that so long as we have the electoral college for the vast majority of us, our vote really does not count.

You, in your support of Hillary, are supporting fracking, and the death penalty, and more wars in the Middle East. Clearly you are comfortable with that. I am not.

Perhaps more to the point, it is up to Hillary to win my vote, not for her and all the other establishment Democrats to assume we have nowhere else to go, so they can betray us, as they've done for far too long now.

[TheKentuckian]

33. When are you "the math" experts going to figure out how addition works?

[lewebley3]

9. Agreed: Without the votes in congress Hillary will have nothing to sign for the progressive party

[azurnoir]

18. ya I'm sure Gary Johnson could get much done either

[Orsino]

4. Make our nominee the best she (or whoever) can be.

We don't have to take what a candidate tells us and like it. Democracy demands that we remain involved at every level, never letting our voices fall silent.

[democrattotheend]

14. I'm a Bernie supporter and I agree with you

She wasn't my choice this time or in 2008 but I still think she would be 10,000 times better than Trump. I find it hard to believe that anyone who doesn't think so was ever really a Bernie supporter. Of the Bernie supporters I met when I volunteered in New York, not one of them thought Trump would be better than Hillary.

[99Forever]

20. I don't agree.

At all.

[AtomicKitten]

23. x 100,000,000

[Juicy_Bellows]

25. + ∞

[Duckhunter935]

28. I have many choices

And my state does not matter. I will not say who I am voting for on my secret ballot.

[Agnosticsherbet]

30. She is a world better than Trump, Johnson, or Stein. So she is our best choice

going forward.

No Presidential Candidate in the General Election does it better.

[Red Mountain]

35. Sure she is....

but that's not the end of it.

Perhaps we can attract new blood to local elections that will feed into our process and hopefully provide better up ballot options that we currently don't enjoy.

Voting for the lesser of two evils or not voting because you can't in good consciousness choose between them is not good for our country.

[Agnosticsherbet]

36. In November, I will be voting for the best candidate in every office I am allowed to vote on.

I hope everyone else does the same.

IF so, we will elect a better government.

[CorkySt.Clair]

32. Or as Bill Maher put it

If you can't have the chicken, why not try the fish.