A meme that used to be very popular on DU, now I never see it here

[Fumesucker]

I wonder if DU will go through this again with Hillary?

[QC]

1. Nah, people will just be accused of sexism constantly.

You know, just like the past year, and before that 2007 and 2008.

[JI7]

2. They are different people, that wouldn't really fit Clinton

something similar maybe but different words.

she handled it well during the Benghazi thing.

[Fumesucker]

3. Why did the meme in the OP become unpopular on DU do you think?

It was here constantly three or four years ago.

[JI7]

5. because it was mostly a campaign thing and Obama isn't running for anymore

elections after 3-4 years ago.

[Fumesucker]

8. I don't recall it that way

In fact the elections is exactly where Obama doesn't have control, that's where the voters come in.

[JI7]

9. it was made for the election for those who support him

[NanceGreggs]

6. Because Obama isn't running?

Just a wild guess.

[Fumesucker]

7. I still agree with your brilliant essay on Hillary from 2008...

[NanceGreggs]

10. Ah, the ol' ...

... you didn't support her then so why do you support her now meme.

Cute. But what does it have to do with the discussion in this thread?

[Fumesucker]

11. It wasn't that you didn't support her, you analyzed her flawed character brilliantly in my opinion

Even better than Steven Leser in 2008 when he said she was a "Rovian character" although his essay was pretty damn good.

You are quite the wordsmith, I envy you that since my short term memory is about gone and I can't really write long pieces any more, I have to keep going back and rereading to see what I've already said. That really upsets the flow of writing in a long piece.

On the other hand once I manage to get something into long term memory it still works quite well.

[NanceGreggs]

12. She is flawed.

Just like every other human being - just like every other politician - just like every other candidate.

I have no problem with that. What I DO have a problem with is people who think their candidate is a flawless saviour who would have righted all wrongs, stopped all injustices, and ushered-in a utopian world where everyone would have free college tuition and single-payer healthcare - if only "The Establishment" had not stepped-in to prevent his ascension to his rightful place.

And yet they're the same people who cheered their Saviour when he said he would convince the super-delegates to ignore the will of the people and hand him the nomination.

[Fumesucker]

13. Hmm, sounds like Obama 2008

Which is why I posted the picture in the OP..

[NanceGreggs]

14. Sorry - not getting the connection. n/t

[Fumesucker]

15. I have a higher opinion of your intelligence than that

[NanceGreggs]

16. Thanks for the "higher opinion".

But I'm not being coy here. I honestly don't know what point you're making.

It is almost 5:00 a.m. here - so that may have something to do with my inability to "get" what it is you're saying.

[Armstead]

25. The same crap was flung by the Clinton campaign against Obama and his supporters...

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that is now being flung against supporters of Sanders. Right down to the use of the word "savior" and the implication that most of us are too stupid to recognize that he's just a human being.

Handy little meme to toss around against any candidate who challenges the rigid Democratic Machine.

[Jim Lane]

28. I agree. That "Savior" meme really rankles me.

I support Sanders even though I regard him as a fallible human being and I sometimes disagree with him.

Sanders went from single digits in the polls to getting more than 40% of the vote against a candidate who had the overwhelming support of the party establishment. He did so while being unafraid to use that dreaded "S" word (no, not "savior&quot that so terrifies most of our elected officials. No fair-minded person can deny that he is, in many ways, an exceptional politician. Nevertheless, to say that his supporters can't think for themselves is just stupid.

I wonder whether that kind of insult will be allowed here after June 20.

[QC]

29. My guess is that some will be allowed to sling any insults they

please while others will get the smackdown if they venture any comment other than praise for The Leader.

You know, just like always.

[Jim Lane]

31. My guess is that Skinner won't want that result but a lot of jurors will.

Skinner doesn't want incivility here but also doesn't want to overrule juries. He may find those two goals incompatible, if the Clinton supporters take the bit in their teeth.

In fact, he may find that they need to be brought to heel.

[QC]

35. I'm not holding my breath.

Most of the ugliness here is the work of a very small group, and most of them have been at it for years. In that time, they have received one lifeline/bailout/amnesty after another. I think civility isn't really a big concern here.

[Surya Gayatri]

27. A-friggin'-men!

[Grassy Knoll]

4. Google Images Has Nada....

Easily made i'm sure.

[Ino]

17. Yep, it will be 24/7...

I got this.
three-dimensional chess
she's got them where she wants them now
rope-a-dope
She's keeping her powder dry.

While the country is further compromised in favor of the 1%.

[leeroysphitz]

22. +1

[Cali_Democrat]

24. Not to worry....a bird landed on Bernie's podium...

So he's got this.

[geek tragedy]

18. Obama's primary opponent was a true team player who graciously endorsed

him in order to unify the party.

Clinton's opponent has no interest in helping her unify the party or defeat Trump.

[Fumesucker]

33. What does that have to do with the OP?

[geek tragedy]

34. because a bunch of delicate flowers will cry "authoritarian" and compare her to Stalin

if she were to be presented in such a way.

Also, like it or not that piece of stagecraft at the convention involved presenting Obama as an alpha male asserting his dominance.

Women don't get to run that particular play.

[Fumesucker]

37. I understand you'd like to believe this and I can't blame you

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110777355

[geek tragedy]

38. women aren't seen in our culture as authority figures

it just doesn't work. if a woman tries to assert herself, there's a backlash unless people are already really positively disposed to her.

boys show leadership, girls get called bossy

[needledriver]

19. You should hang out more in the Hillary group

http://www.democraticunderground.com/110777355

[bigwillq]

20. I hope not. Lol. Never liked that meme.

[leeroysphitz]

23. Awesome, true and sad. stealing n/t

[Purveyor]

26. 😁

[Fumesucker]

36. I won't go in the HRC Group, thanks for bringing it here

I don't go in the BS group either, not really interested in echo chambers.

[cherokeeprogressive]

41. Sorry. I'll make it go away. nt

[Fumesucker]

42. That was a joke, son. A joke.

Sorry, I was a bit too dry...

[NorthCarolina]

30. Obama was more or less an unknown quantity though,

whereas Clinton isn't.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

32. There is no worse heresy than that the office sanctifies the holder of it. Lord Acton

[hootinholler]

39. Put that in this context...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280213407

Yeah, he's got this.

[Fumesucker]

40. As far as I know

[senz]

43. Gotta tell ya, Fumesucker

I absolutely love your sig line photo.

[Fumesucker]

44. Thank you