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UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:46 PM Jun 2016

All Democrats need to be aware that Trump may not be the GOP Presidential Candidate

This action would mean the GOP insiders stole the election from the GOP voters.

The Democratic Party supporters should be ready to convince voters no republican is qualified to lead the country. Period!

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All Democrats need to be aware that Trump may not be the GOP Presidential Candidate (Original Post) UCmeNdc Jun 2016 OP
I still think it is unlikely, but I am ready to fight to elect Democrats whatever they do. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #1
None of those other idiots polled anywhere The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #2
I think Trump will stay in mcar Jun 2016 #3
If that happened, they would lose in an even bigger landslide. NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #4
There will be fist fights on the Convention floor. They might have to close it down. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #6
Given the nuts in Trump's cult, it would likely be gunfights on the convention floor. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #9
In all the scenarios where folks posit he will be replaced they ignore the real threat of violence. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #12
Let's hope it's just fist fights. TeeYiYi Jun 2016 #13
This is going to be Kimberly1990219 Jun 2016 #5
Bill Maher Will Have Late Nite Specials on 3 Nites of Both Republican and Democratic Convention Stallion Jun 2016 #17
Replacing Trump would be the worst mistake, as a party, they could make Godhumor Jun 2016 #7
This is exactly right. okasha Jun 2016 #20
Hillary and the Democrats send their regards. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #8
Agree. Focus on the gop heinous record, statements, positions...and you'll be ready wiggs Jun 2016 #10
This certainly merits caution from all Democrats. LonePirate Jun 2016 #11
I understand why some say the Rs could not replace him without major backlash....but.... Sivart Jun 2016 #14
Don the con is their man and he will be the nominee at the convention kimbutgar Jun 2016 #15
I think ALL people who vote for either of the major party candidates stopbush Jun 2016 #16
There's no way they do this without tearing their organization apart Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #18
Trump's brownshirts would go on a rampage Tarc Jun 2016 #19

mcar

(42,309 posts)
3. I think Trump will stay in
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

But if the RNC pulls something and gets him out - I don't think the party will do well. As abhorrent as he is, he got the most votes in the R primaries.

The convention could get interesting, though.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
4. If that happened, they would lose in an even bigger landslide.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jun 2016

There's no way they can handpick a new candidate without a full-on revolt at the convention. And that candidate would have no momentum and no infrastructure.

So bring it on.

Lord Magus

(1,999 posts)
9. Given the nuts in Trump's cult, it would likely be gunfights on the convention floor.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:01 PM
Jun 2016

Or at the very least they'd try to storm the arena with their guns and force the police to open fire.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
12. In all the scenarios where folks posit he will be replaced they ignore the real threat of violence.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jun 2016

Many Trumpists hate the GOP and consider them traitorous. They hold Rubio, Kasich, Bush, et al in the same contempt, if not worse than they do Democrats.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
13. Let's hope it's just fist fights.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jun 2016

I saw a post here earlier about some ex-cop lunatic, Trump supporter, summoning gun-toting militia nutjobs to the GOP convention.

TYY

Kimberly1990219

(24 posts)
5. This is going to be
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:53 PM
Jun 2016

the greatest reality show on Earth. Like Bill Maher said, they're having some serious buyer's remorse with Trump.

Stallion

(6,474 posts)
17. Bill Maher Will Have Late Nite Specials on 3 Nites of Both Republican and Democratic Convention
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:14 PM
Jun 2016

the comedy potential is exciting

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
7. Replacing Trump would be the worst mistake, as a party, they could make
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jun 2016

With Trump, they're going to take their lumps in 2016. If they attempt to replace him and ignore their voters' sentiments, the Republican party burns to the ground.

okasha

(11,573 posts)
20. This is exactly right.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jun 2016

A Trump loss will cripple the Republican Party at least through the 2020 election cycle. It will take them that long to get back the crossover contingent who will probably vote for he re -election and to get back onto a saner footing.

If they succeed in replacing him, the tea party faction will desert them for the Libertarian Party, and the damage will be permanent.

wiggs

(7,812 posts)
10. Agree. Focus on the gop heinous record, statements, positions...and you'll be ready
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jun 2016

for any general election nominee and you'll also laying groundwork for down ballot elections and for future battles. Such an easy case to make, yet dems always flub it.

If Clinton and dem leaders focus on Trump's hands and insanity, not only will they be unprepared when Trump quits and the GOp installs a candidate who could actually run and win a campaign, they will have wasted valuable time and money. Moreover, attacking ONLY Trump while forgetting he is merely the culmination of decades of hateful, fact-free conservative rhetoric and low tactics just drives up his personal negatives so that even his supporters will be happy to embrace the replacement at the convention. Dems have to shine light on both Trump and the GOP simultaneously.

I believe it's more likely than not that Trump is not the nominee. He isn't really even running a campaign and has no money.

LonePirate

(13,419 posts)
11. This certainly merits caution from all Democrats.
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:03 PM
Jun 2016

It's possible that if a coup, so to speak, occurs and Trump is replaced, his supporters could bolt the party which would decimate the Repubs. Or his supporters might not care much and the party coalesces in unity around the replacement - a unity the party lacks at the moment. I honestly have no idea which scenario will occur; but I think Trump will not be replaced as the Repubs will not risk a possible destruction of their party.

 

Sivart

(325 posts)
14. I understand why some say the Rs could not replace him without major backlash....but....
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:07 PM
Jun 2016

But is this still the case if Trump self destructs? If his campaign just implodes, and it is obvious to everyone that he is a guaranteed loser, then I think the primary voters who were for Trump then will see that he is not going to win and be on board with a swap.


If Trump's polling numbers don't tank, they probably cant replace him, but if he is losing, and losing badly, I think they can easily replace him.

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
15. Don the con is their man and he will be the nominee at the convention
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:08 PM
Jun 2016

There is no way the fox/right wing republicans will allow the establishment to put in their corporate toady.

stopbush

(24,396 posts)
16. I think ALL people who vote for either of the major party candidates
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jun 2016

need to realize that they are not electing a candidate. They are expressing a preference for a candidate that the political party may weigh however they want. That candidate gets elected by delegates sent to their respective conventions.

Let's face it, the indie parties don't even participate in the primaries. Their candidates are picked by a group of elites. The major parties used to pick their own candidates the same way. The only reason they participate in the primary process is because they hope that people voting in their party's primaries will translate into votes in the GE.

The SCOTUS ruled in 2000 that political parties have a very broad First Amendment right of association that allows them to run their candidate selection processes however they wish. There would be nothing illegal about the RNC dumping Trump at this point. The only real downside is that doing so would pretty much confirm the open secret I've outlined above, a secret most Americans are blissfully unaware of, and a secret that if ever taken to an extreme would put people off engaging in the primary process for that party.

Considering the free advertising and news stories that come with the extended primary season, it would be foolish to risk losing all that by taking a bold action, such as dumping Trump. But that's where the Rs are at these days, and it could happen.

Tarc

(10,476 posts)
19. Trump's brownshirts would go on a rampage
Mon Jun 20, 2016, 03:27 PM
Jun 2016

The GOP is either going to go down in flames for an election cycle or for a generation. Either way, I'm

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