2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWall Street Weighing President Trump vs. Vice President Warren
Now I don't know Hillary Clinton personally, but I get the impression that she's a lady who knows how to call a bluff. And it would be the thrill of a lifetime to see her call this one: apparently financial-industry assholes are trying to hold their donations as ransom to stop Clinton from picking Elizabeth Warren as VP.
In other words, Wall Street's telling Hillary that they'd rather risk having President Donald Trump than Vice President Elizabeth Warren. Do they really mean that? Probably not they've already heaped millions upon millions of dollars on Hillary, and throwing your support behind the ultra-volatile Donald Trump isn't exactly a safe gamble. (Hey, Wall Street? Have you seen today's headlines: "Donald Trump presidency would wreck economy, Moody's analysis concludes."
Not to mention, this Orlesian ball of Wall Street's assumes that Warren is even under consideration. She seems to be doing just fine in Congress, so why would she want to jump over to the White House? And more importantly, Warren's such a star these days that voters might start to wish she was the nominee instead of Hillary. Nobody wins in that scenario.
It's anyone's guess who the Clinton campaign is actually vetting these days. There's a great NYT article that basically boils it down to "chemistry," a.k.a. "who does Hillary get along with?" That means that predicting the nominee requires reading ineffable signs of body language and vocal tone. (The article notes that on one occasion, when she hugged Corey Booker, she did so with a "much less effusive embrace" than she had given to Bon Jovi, so I guess that means Bon Jovi's leading the pack.)
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JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Nothing is more important than defeating Republicans. Too bad, Warren and her policies will have to stand by; we have an enemy to defeat.
That takes precedence over all.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)But I think the third paragraph sums it up pretty well. She can still be effective in the Senate plus she may not want the job. We'll see.
tonyt53
(5,737 posts)After January, the actions to reduce campaign spending can begin in earnest.
JonLeibowitz
(6,282 posts)Those rules for the DNC only happened because we elected Obama.
Time to elect Hillary to further rein in large $$ spending.
#UniteBlue
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and strictly as a hedge against bad news. They can threaten, but they were never trying to elect any Democrats to national office, so I don't believe calling their bluff would change all that much.
EXCEPT--The conviction that we need to control Wall Street/Big Money and the flow of wealth upwards is something that voters across the political spectrum now have in common. Currently, their donations to the Democrats confuse many people as to motivations. If they withdrew all support from Hillary it would draw the kind of line all those many millions of voters could understand.
I personally would love to see Wall Street declare open, instead of hidden, war on Hillary and withdraw all support, but it won't happen.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)I have no doubt that the bigwigs don't like her, but I'm suspicious that they are actively twisting arms on the Clinton side to not have her be Vice President. The VP has so little power, it doesn't make sense that she would be a threat to them. She is much more powerful in the Senate.
mikehiggins
(5,614 posts)They know that better than we do.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)If Hillary wasn't going to choose Warren anyway, this kind of story breeds more dissent amongst the ranks of Democrats/the Left. It's another thing people who aren't thrilled with Hillary can point to and say, "She didn't stand up to Wall Street!" when in fact maybe she was never going to choose Warren.