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Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:54 PM

 

The Clinton Campaign Is Obstructing Change to the Democratic Platform

http://www.commondreams.org/views/2016/06/28/clinton-campaign-obstructing-change-democratic-platform

I’ve had a front-row seat to the first round of the process, as 1 of 5 delegates Sanders named to draft the platform. (The Clinton campaign named six, and Debbie Wasserman Schultz, chair of the Democratic National Committee, added four more.) We spent two weeks listening to powerful testimony from citizens around the country, and then on Friday in St. Louis we started taking votes.

And it was there that the essential dynamic quickly emerged. The Clinton campaign was ready to acknowledge serious problems: We need fair trade policy, inequality is a horrible problem, and unchecked climate change will wreck the planet. But when it came to specific policy changes, they often balked. Amendments against the Trans-Pacific Partnership trade agreement and backing Medicare for all failed, with all the Clinton delegates voting against.

At which point we got (about 11 p.m., in a half-deserted hotel ballroom) to the climate section of the platform, and that’s where things got particularly obvious. We all agreed that America should be operating on 100 percent clean energy by 2050, but then I proposed, in one amendment after another, a series of ways we might actually get there. A carbon tax? Voted down 7-6 (one of the DNC delegates voted with each side). A ban on fracking? Voted down 7-6. An effort to keep fossils in the ground, at least on federal land? Voted down 7-6. A measure to mandate that federal agencies weigh the climate impact of their decisions? Voted down 7-6. Even a plan to keep fossil fuel companies from taking private land by eminent domain, voted down 7-6. (We did, however, reach unanimous consent on more bike paths!)

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Which is why we need not platitudes but a platform. Not aspirations but commitments. Not happy talk, but the fully adult conversation that Sanders engaged the country in for the past year. Cornel West, with his usual succinct eloquence, said that in the end the platform debate came down to telling the truth. The truth is, we’re in a world of hurt. That hurt—economic, social, environmental—is driving the unsettling politics of our moment. That hurt needs to be addressed.



Disappointing, to me at least, that actual policies are being rejected in favor of platitudes. There are problems to be fixed and the Democratic Party should be on the vanguard of leading the fixes.

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Reply The Clinton Campaign Is Obstructing Change to the Democratic Platform (Original post)
Scuba Jun 2016 OP
arcane1 Jun 2016 #1
floriduck Jun 2016 #28
arcane1 Jun 2016 #30
floriduck Jun 2016 #31
arcane1 Jun 2016 #32
NYC Liberal Jun 2016 #38
forest444 Jun 2016 #2
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #3
lewebley3 Jun 2016 #4
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #7
Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #6
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #8
leftinportland Jun 2016 #9
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #13
leftinportland Jun 2016 #22
NCTraveler Jun 2016 #23
CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #16
uponit7771 Jun 2016 #42
LuvLoogie Jun 2016 #17
joshcryer Jun 2016 #5
Buzz cook Jun 2016 #10
JudyM Jun 2016 #29
Buzz cook Jun 2016 #36
CrispyQ Jun 2016 #11
pokerfan Jun 2016 #40
DanTex Jun 2016 #12
joshcryer Jun 2016 #20
stopbush Jun 2016 #14
CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #15
cosmicone Jun 2016 #18
msongs Jun 2016 #19
geek tragedy Jun 2016 #21
JoePhilly Jun 2016 #24
pnwmom Jun 2016 #25
Lil Missy Jun 2016 #26
arcane1 Jun 2016 #27
Eko Jun 2016 #33
Herman4747 Jun 2016 #44
sufrommich Jun 2016 #46
JRLeft Jun 2016 #35
leveymg Jun 2016 #43
SaschaHM Jun 2016 #34
MohRokTah Jun 2016 #37
TwilightZone Jun 2016 #39
MaggieD Jun 2016 #41
Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #45

Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:55 PM

1. This paragraph clearly shows what the priorities are: corporate donors

 

"We all agreed that America should be operating on 100 percent clean energy by 2050, but then I proposed, in one amendment after another, a series of ways we might actually get there. A carbon tax? Voted down 7-6 (one of the DNC delegates voted with each side). A ban on fracking? Voted down 7-6. An effort to keep fossils in the ground, at least on federal land? Voted down 7-6. A measure to mandate that federal agencies weigh the climate impact of their decisions? Voted down 7-6. Even a plan to keep fossil fuel companies from taking private land by eminent domain, voted down 7-6. (We did, however, reach unanimous consent on more bike paths!) "

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:06 PM

28. But Bernie needs to convince his supporters to vote for her. I think he could use a bit of her help

 

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Response to floriduck (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:07 PM

30. She needs to convince his supporters to vote for her. It's her job, not his n/t

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:08 PM

31. I forgot my sarcasm emoticon. Sorry.

 

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:31 PM

38. 81 percent of Sanders supporters are now fully behind HRC.

That number is far higher than the number of HRC supporters backing Obama at this time in 2008.

Not to mention Sanders himself will be voting for her.

So it seems she is doing an excellent job of convincing.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:56 PM

2. I don't doubt it. But to be fair to Hillary,

a lot of those changes would require an alien invasion. Such is the world (for now, anyway).

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 12:57 PM

3. This is one of the reasons reasons Clinton won so handily.

 

She and here team fully understand negotiations. There were then others who have no clue what the word means. Simply my way or no way at all. The platform is a collaboration.

It is a mindset from top to bottom.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:00 PM

4. The platform is meaningless without votes in the House and Senate to pass

 

it. Clinton nor the Dem's really don't know what is possible until after
the election.

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Response to lewebley3 (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:00 PM

7. That said, there is nothing to "pass" with respect to a platform. nt.

 

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #6)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:02 PM

8. I have no intentions of rehashing the primary.

 

But I believe the country fully got the idea of what we would be looking at with respect to negotiations after the '07 immigration votes were so widely discussed this primary. It was a big selling point for Clinton.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:03 PM

9. so the compromise in these negotiations is...

we'll let you voice your concern but don't ask for any actions to fix them and don't ask us to change any of our positions that might harm our corporate sponsors...that will work well going forward...NOT!

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Response to leftinportland (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:03 PM

13. There is something I never said. Well done. nt.

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:32 PM

22. With every negotiation there is compromise...

Thought the Hill team knew this...apparently few do. When you have almost half your intended constituency wanting something...one gives a little...That my friend is negotiating.

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Response to leftinportland (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:36 PM

23. Yup. That is negotiating.

 

People's confidence in her ability to do so was a big selling point for her. This just highlights how accurate that narrative was and is.

There is also the fact that the loser will have to compromise to a much greater extent. Specially will all of the special considerations that were already given to the losing party in the negotiations.

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Response to leftinportland (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:11 PM

16. The compromise comes from understanding you have to give when you have fewer votes.

 

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Response to leftinportland (Reply #9)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:12 PM

17. Decree via platform? Solutions are actioned in the legislative bodies.

And legislators are not appointed by candidates for office. The would be legislators themselves must be elected.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:00 PM

5. "many of us look at the Brexit vote"

The one that striped the UK of EUs environmental regs? The one that was literally argued for because Britain cut back coal in some places?

Bill, please.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:03 PM

10. The author's point seems to be about his ego not wht actually got done.

Notice how frequently it is "his" amendment and how they are the only way to solve problems.

The platform is purposely vague because its intent is aspirational not prescriptive. The author wants the platform to tie the hands of legislators in the face of an uncertain future.

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Response to Buzz cook (Reply #10)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:06 PM

29. No-action platitudes are facts being reported, regardless of the 1st-person verbiage.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #29)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:21 PM

36. No action platitudes are the "opinon" being reported.

Just as with the 15$ minimum wage, it was "reported" as being blocked when in fact it had not been blocked. It was just certain amendments not the thing itself.

I am willing to wait a douple days to see what the facts are.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:03 PM

11. "We need not platitudes but a platform. Not aspirations but commitments."

The democratic party has been giving us platitudes for 35 years & now they're giving us aspirations. What the hell? We've gone backwards! If they'd been a true opposition party for the last 35 years, maybe we wouldn't have Donald Trump now.

In Michael Moore's movie, "Where to Invade Next," he 'invades' countries for their good ideas to bring back to America, and surprise, surprise, some of them are American ideas that we abandoned. Got my copy of the movie in the mail this morning!

Saw this on FB.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #11)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:32 PM

40. To the victor go the spoils

So to recap, if I have this right, the platform thus far is:

Pro TPP
Pro fracking
Pro continued Israeli occupation of Palestine

Against a carbon tax
Against single payer health care
Against $15 minimum wage

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:03 PM

12. I like Bill McKibben, but he doesn't need to worry about winning an election.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #12)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:26 PM

20. Yeah, McKibben couldn't even get 100 people to attend...

...Be Free 2016. He should be grateful he was so fortunate to take his ideas.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:08 PM

15. Shock! The Clinton people voted for the Clinton platform, the winning platform. Shock!

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:14 PM

18. Bill McKibben's panties got knotted because he didn't get his way.

 

There is no "obstruction" ... everyone got to debate their view and people just didn't agree with one side.

But, there it is again - high drama about every loss and smears of something unholy happening.

Clinton camp was too generous and gave Bernie 5 seats. Otherwise the decisions would have been 12-2. Let us not forget -- She WON and it is HER convention.

We cannot -- simply cannot -- hobble our candidate with a dream list that is impossible to defend in a GE.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:15 PM

19. dear commondreams, the primaries will not be revoted no matter how much you want it to be nt

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:31 PM

21. Amazing that the person who won and has to face a general election

 

does not just jump through every hoop the person who lost demands.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:44 PM

25. The nominee gets to approve the platform. Hillary gave Bernie much more of a voice

than a losing candidate normally gets, including 5 seats on the platform committee.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 01:49 PM

26. So, the Platform represents the vision of the winner, Hillary.

I keep hearing the words ........ "the loser does not get to dictate terms."

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Response to Lil Missy (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 02:00 PM

27. And here is that vision. Do you agree with the results of these votes?

 

A carbon tax? Voted down 7-6 (one of the DNC delegates voted with each side).

A ban on fracking? Voted down 7-6.

An effort to keep fossils in the ground, at least on federal land? Voted down 7-6.

A measure to mandate that federal agencies weigh the climate impact of their decisions? Voted down 7-6.

Even a plan to keep fossil fuel companies from taking private land by eminent domain, voted down 7-6.

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #27)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:08 PM

33. Some info from the other viewpoint.

"The Clinton campaign says its reluctance to accept some of McKibben’s amendments reflects legitimate concerns about the policy implications, not mere political calculation. Not all experts agree that a carbon tax is the most effective way to reduce emissions, for example. Mary Nichols of the California Air Resources Board had pointed out in her testimony to the committee a week earlier that a carbon tax does not guarantee emissions reductions, while direct regulation, such as Obama’s Clean Power Plan, does. Clinton supporters rejected a blanket prohibition on lending for foreign fossil fuel development projects on the grounds that the U.S. relationship with any given developing country may have competing priorities, and they opposed the climate test for energy projects because they worried it could prevent necessary projects like transmission lines for electricity that may be partly generated from dirty sources."
http://grist.org/election-2016/sanders-and-clinton-teams-fight-over-climate-language-in-democratic-platform/

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:17 AM

44. Excellent, EXCELLENT post. Thanks a lot.

 

With regards to fracking, Hillary herself has supported exporting fracking to other countries (for example, How Hillary Clinton's State Department Sold Fracking to the World ), so we couldn't truly expect otherwise.

What was particularly striking (and depressing) was this getting voted down: A measure to mandate that federal agencies weigh the climate impact of their decisions

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:29 AM

46. What is the large scale alternative to fossil fuels right now?

Not sometime in the foggy unexplained future,but right now?

Wouldn't it make more sense to advocate for federal monies to grow the alternative energy source? How do you explain to American voters that we're going to raise gas prices without a less expensive alternative?

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Response to Lil Missy (Reply #26)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:34 PM

35. Neoliberalism with bits of progressivism.

 

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 01:57 AM

43. Bike paths through a vast strip mine and abandoned factories

That's the platform we're supposed to be cheering. Rah. Rah.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 04:19 PM

34. If this platform truly is going to be about commitments...

It makes perfect sense that it should read word for word like Hillary's Campaign message. Why on earth would her team allow parts of Bernie's message that she disagreed with govern her or make it into some mandatory pledge to do strictly "xy&z" when she's going to have to govern with a divided congress?

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:27 PM

37. GOOD!!!

 

This is one of the major reasons I supported her.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:33 PM

39. This may come as a surprise, but the person who wins generally has more say in the platform

than the person who loses. Often, the person who loses has none at all. In this case, the person who lost was given representation on the committee - five members - and they obviously had input in the process, as Keith Ellison clearly indicated.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:38 PM

41. No, she won and he lost

 

I and millions more for voted for HER platform over his. It's Democracy. That's how it works.

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Wed Jun 29, 2016, 10:19 AM

45. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Scuba.

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