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bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:04 PM Jun 2016

How much authority will Bill Clinton be given if Hillary is elected POTUS?

I'm aware that she has mentioned our economy, in particular, with regards to giving the "First Gentleman" real power in her potential administration.

What do you think?

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How much authority will Bill Clinton be given if Hillary is elected POTUS? (Original Post) bobthedrummer Jun 2016 OP
He will be in charge of First lady duties. DemFromPittsburgh Jun 2016 #1
Yes: I'm sure his ego will be content organizaing the Easter Egg Roll Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #3
Unlikely, if by "First Lady duties" you're talking about MADem Jun 2016 #10
He was not elected. He should sit this one out. DemFromPittsburgh Jun 2016 #37
First spouses have historically chosen their own style PJMcK Jun 2016 #41
. stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #2
None I hope. psychmommy Jun 2016 #4
! bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #7
Same amount as any Presidential spouse. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #5
That doesn't seem consistent with what Hillary has said. morningfog Jun 2016 #8
What actual position did she say he'd get? JoePhilly Jun 2016 #12
She never said a position and I think clarified that he would not be in her cabinet. morningfog Jun 2016 #15
And how would she do that exactly. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #18
Who's looking for outrage? I have no idea what she meant. morningfog Jun 2016 #20
She specifically has mentioned giving Bill a major role the economy-as in "it's the economy, stupid" bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #14
Like what role exactly? JoePhilly Jun 2016 #19
Is Bill just any other Presidential Spouse? Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #21
What specific position do you see her giving him? JoePhilly Jun 2016 #24
I'm not outraged at all Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #27
Exactly! It baffles me that people talk about him like he is just some ordinary spouse. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #92
He will be given the "authority" (better word: consideration) that MADem Jun 2016 #6
+1 JoePhilly Jun 2016 #13
It would be foolish to waste his experience and brilliant mind PJMcK Jun 2016 #42
I'm with you--your last paragraph most particularly! MADem Jun 2016 #60
None, I hope. (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #9
^ bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #17
Two brilliant minds working for the betterment of all. liberal N proud Jun 2016 #11
+1 KMOD Jun 2016 #50
+1,000!!! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #91
Hillary spoke on this earlier. peace13 Jun 2016 #16
Yep. Deregulation, the end of Glass-Steagall, NAFTA-etc was Bill's tremendous surplus left to W. bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #22
Boost or baggage? Bill Fishlore Jun 2016 #23
Flip your numbers and maybe you've got something. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #26
How much authority does Michelle Obama have again? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #25
Are you saying Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton are the same? Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #29
Not at all. I'm confident FLOTUS looks better in a dress. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #32
Officially on paper, you are coŕrect. Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #36
You mean Michelle is not one of the President's main advisors? athena Jun 2016 #43
Oh Please! Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #44
You think two intelligent people can be married athena Jun 2016 #47
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #48
I note you did not answer any of my questions. athena Jun 2016 #55
He will be occupying the same place as she does treestar Jul 2016 #79
The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity tirebiter Jun 2016 #28
+1 uponit7771 Jun 2016 #30
+1 Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #33
Thanks for this. thucythucy Jun 2016 #34
+, plus a billion! This is more the reality of how mainstream America sees R B Garr Jun 2016 #35
+1000 nt ProudProgressiveNow Jun 2016 #49
+1 Lest we forget! Hekate Jul 2016 #87
Excellent post. Thank you! AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #93
As much as Hillary delegates to him karynnj Jun 2016 #31
Perhaps Bill can be put in charge of bringing back the 90s. R. Daneel Olivaw Jun 2016 #38
Hopefully not everything. Lancero Jul 2016 #83
How much power will Melania Trump be given if Donald is elected POTUS? BainsBane Jun 2016 #39
Nothing more than an advisor. LiberalFighter Jun 2016 #40
I prefer to wait and see how the election goes first. Bill USA Jun 2016 #45
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #46
Maybe he could choose the china? randr Jun 2016 #51
Does it matter? charlyvi Jun 2016 #52
an advisor, just like every first person is still_one Jun 2016 #53
Apparently, to some people, athena Jun 2016 #56
we are on the same page still_one Jun 2016 #57
I know. athena Jun 2016 #58
Yeah, seems kind of obvious. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #59
Bill's great mind and political instincts will not be wasted. He also oasis Jun 2016 #54
^ what a vast diversity of responses, so far. Where are you at on this topic? bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #61
Not sure but... jcgoldie Jun 2016 #62
What about those of US that aren't moved by appearances, meaning perception management? bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #63
+1 treestar Jul 2016 #80
I believe that's Secretary Clinton's business to decide. Lyric Jun 2016 #64
Loretta Lynch: Bill Clinton meeting "cast a shadow" over FBI investigation-live (Tom McCarthy) bobthedrummer Jul 2016 #65
Kick for participation. n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2016 #66
OK, I'll participate. Presidential spouses take all sorts of roles, MineralMan Jul 2016 #68
Why would he have any? The First Spouse isn't an actual government position lol leeroysphitz Jul 2016 #67
Constitutionally: None! hobbit709 Jul 2016 #69
Kick bobthedrummer Jul 2016 #70
she was given a lot of responsibility in his admin, so he'll some in hers. he's older though La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #71
Read carefully: Advisors are granted NO AUTHORITY....commit to memory Bill USA Jul 2016 #72
I hope he'll be made to hand-deliver new Glass-Steagall paperwork. n/t Orsino Jul 2016 #73
He needs to go on another diet-doesn't he? And also get rid of those many toxins he has inside him. bobthedrummer Jul 2016 #74
The primary is over, passive aggressive posts aren't appreciated as we unite against Trump SharonClark Jul 2016 #75
What's the point of that post? Seems like a non-sequitur? Am I missing something? emulatorloo Jul 2016 #84
Self-Delete, sorry wrong place. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #85
Oh Lord, just "hold my words"... eom Purveyor Jul 2016 #76
Whatever Hillary decides to give him. He has a lot of talent - it would be a shame not to use it. Lil Missy Jul 2016 #77
Why would he get any official role? TeddyR Jul 2016 #78
No authority, but perhaps some substantial influence in some areas. LuvLoogie Jul 2016 #81
He better keep the garden going... Historic NY Jul 2016 #82
Hillary worked on healthcare, Laura Bush focused on reading/education/childhood development, emulatorloo Jul 2016 #86
Who cares. I trust their judgment ericson00 Jul 2016 #88
Kick for more participation n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2016 #89
Is it still, "...it's the economy, stupid..." or is it Executive Branch: Family Feud bobthedrummer Jul 2016 #90

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
3. Yes: I'm sure his ego will be content organizaing the Easter Egg Roll
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:11 PM
Jun 2016

You are in fantasyland if you think Bill will not be a major player (no pun intended) in a Clinton II administration.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
10. Unlikely, if by "First Lady duties" you're talking about
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:26 PM
Jun 2016

menus and flowers and china and decorations. I suspect one of HRC's trusted staff who knows her tastes will take the lead in that regard.

If it were up to Bill, and he didn't have his heart issues, it'd be Big Macs and Shakes for everyone at the state dinner!

But if you're talking about taking the lead on a major social program (think back to children's health care) or delivering a major speech on human rights to an audience being hosted by a somewhat hostile government (think Hillary in China) then you might be closer to the mark.

Bill Clinton has experience--it would be stupid to waste it.

PJMcK

(22,053 posts)
41. First spouses have historically chosen their own style
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

Obviously, this would be the first time in US history that we would have a First Gentleman. That leaves much of the definition of that role to the husband of the President of the United States.

Yet throughout our country's history, each First Lady has chosen their own path. Some were more of the hostess variety while others were more activist. The First Lady has always had a large staff and presumably so would former President Clinton. The staff exists and is budgeted for the use of the First Spouse and they decide how they spend their time and energies.

Mr. Clinton has a sound mind, is still an excellent speaker and has good ideas. I doubt that he would want to be in the thick of broad policy making but certainly there are issues that he feels strongly about and will want to do something positive and progressive. It would be a waste of experienced talent for him to "sit this one out."

By the way, so far, Mrs. Clinton hasn't been elected, either. (wink)

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
12. What actual position did she say he'd get?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jun 2016

A presidential spouse has zero official governance duties.

Can't vote on committees. Can't veto shit.

I understand there is a segment who needs to find outrages to be outraged about.

And I suspect that's all this really is.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
15. She never said a position and I think clarified that he would not be in her cabinet.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jun 2016

But she did say something about being in charge of the economy, didn't she?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
18. And how would she do that exactly.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:35 PM
Jun 2016

Kind of like Obama calling Bill "Explainer in Chief".

May the search for outrages continue!

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
14. She specifically has mentioned giving Bill a major role the economy-as in "it's the economy, stupid"
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:32 PM
Jun 2016

but who can say at this moment of history?

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
24. What specific position do you see her giving him?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jun 2016

He'll be a great spokesperson for sure.

But I do understand that some need an outrage to justify their outrage.

Even when nothing has actually happened.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
27. I'm not outraged at all
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:44 PM
Jun 2016

I just see Bill playing a huge behind the scene. I would gladly use his experience too.

I just find the idea (as some on DU are suggesting) that he will only do the things a typical first lady does is absurd.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
92. Exactly! It baffles me that people talk about him like he is just some ordinary spouse.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 02:40 PM
Jul 2016

He is a wealth of information and experience. He is an ex 2 term potus. Why wouldn't he have an advisory role? To think he wouldn't is a little naive.

Having said that, other spouses have had advisory roles as well. Why wouldn't they? To think they didn't or wouldn't is also naive.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
6. He will be given the "authority" (better word: consideration) that
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jun 2016

any senior retired leaders (former POTUS/VPOTUS/SECSTATE, e.g.) gets. He'll have access to briefings--made easier because he'll be RIGHT THERE, and his advice will be welcome.

It's a small club. This is why POTUSes are cordial with one another. In this case, the one who probably should have gotten the job first (because, as HE says, repeatedly, she's the SMART ONE in that marriage) is married to a former POTUS.

Hillary Clinton played important roles in the Bill Clinton White House (children's healthcare/rights; women's rights....that speech in China is STILL talked about)--I see no reason why Bill can't do likewise. And no one--flat out no one--is a better rep at a funeral or a difficult "outside channels" negotiation.

Even in his dotage, he's got more energy than ten whippersnappers.

PJMcK

(22,053 posts)
42. It would be foolish to waste his experience and brilliant mind
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jun 2016

Secretary Clinton knows her husband better than anyone on the planet. She's exceedingly intelligent and I trust that, if she's elected, the two of them will decide what effective role he'll play in her administration. Of course he won't hold a cabinet position; that would be a ridiculous step backwards. Further, I feel confident that she won't nominate him to the Supreme Court or another august body.

Let me add that I'm confident she won't let him try to upstage her. If she's elected, she will be as serious a president as this country has ever had. I've always thought Mrs. Clinton was more Alpha than Mr. Clinton. She'll make sure that he'll have specific directives and parameters and he'll most likely be happy with that. After all, at this point in his life, why would he want to have the harder work to do?

Incidentally, MADem, I like your observation that the small club of former POTUSes have reasonably good relationships. Each of them has carried the tremendous burden of leadership and that commands respect and appreciation of the difficulties of the presidency. Except for that elite group, no one knows the overwhelming intensity it must take to be the president. From their extraordinary experiences they share a unique bond.

There are former presidents that I love and admire and there are former presidents that I hate with the fire of ten thousand suns. But I still respect that all of them served our country. Accordingly, if former President Clinton can help hopefully President Clinton, I trust her judgment.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
60. I'm with you--your last paragraph most particularly!
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 11:38 PM
Jun 2016

Remember when GHW Bush and Bill Clinton did the Indonesia Earthquake/Tsunami aid/assistance tour? Bill had heart disease, he wasn't 100 percent; and of course the fucking Shrub sent them over on a plane with only ONE bed (stooop!!!! I blame his dumb-ass staff, really...that is something that SOME idiot should have anticipated -- it's not like the two of them were going to snuggle up in the one bed or hot-rack it, after all and that's a haul that pretty much mandates sleep).

Bill let Poppy have the bed and slept on the floor of the plane. Country boys can survive, I guess....! Now Old Poppy is in a wheelchair, but he and his wife still think well of old Bill.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/600116833/Clinton-let-Bush-Sr-have-bed-on-long-trip.html?pg=all

You can disagree on the goals, never mind the details and still be civil. The good ones manage it well....

Bill Fishlore

(14 posts)
23. Boost or baggage?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jun 2016

The Hillary Clinton administration will use Bill Clinton on issues and in venues where he can make a positive impact. Bill has a hard core of supporters, most from his presidential terms. There are a number of demographic areas where he is a real liability. The bottom line: Bill Clinton is 40% boost and 60% baggage. I doubt we will see all that much of him in the next White House.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
26. Flip your numbers and maybe you've got something.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:41 PM
Jun 2016

Bill remains very popular except with the far right, and a small segment on the left who are always upset anyway.

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
25. How much authority does Michelle Obama have again?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:39 PM
Jun 2016

How much authority does any first spouse have?

Answer: none.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
29. Are you saying Michelle Obama and Bill Clinton are the same?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jun 2016

Your reality must be an interesting place!

Maru Kitteh

(28,343 posts)
32. Not at all. I'm confident FLOTUS looks better in a dress.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

In terms of authority as first spouse of the POTUS however, yes. They are the same.

athena

(4,187 posts)
43. You mean Michelle is not one of the President's main advisors?
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:32 PM
Jun 2016

The sexism in this thread is breath-taking.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)
44. Oh Please!
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 07:55 PM
Jun 2016

Just Stop! Michelle Obama is an accomplished lawyer, but not a former President of the USA. Stop claiming everything is sexism! It's sad and getting realy old. Your accusations of sexism is just as breathtaking!

athena

(4,187 posts)
47. You think two intelligent people can be married
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 08:27 PM
Jun 2016

without advising each other on matters important to them?

As for complaints about sexism getting old, I wonder if you would say that about any other kind of discrimination. Do you also think that Jewish people should stop talking about anti-Semitism, and Black people should shut up about racism, and LGBT people should learn to accept homophobia?

I suppose you haven't actually thought about sexism enough to realize that telling women to shut up is the very essence of sexism.

Response to athena (Reply #47)

athena

(4,187 posts)
55. I note you did not answer any of my questions.
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:01 PM
Jun 2016

Instead, you try to insult me. Not a sign of someone who is here to have a discussion. I honestly can't fathom why anyone would go to a discussion board when the last thing they're interested in is a discussion.

Welcome to ignore. Enjoy being nasty to other people, although I doubt that it can give you enough satisfaction to make up for all the negativity that inevitably must go along with it.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
79. He will be occupying the same place as she does
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 10:21 PM
Jul 2016

the only difference is that he is a former president.

It seems like they get to continue being called President so there will be two people that can be called "President Clinton."

tirebiter

(2,539 posts)
28. The Clinton Presidency: A Historic Era of Progress and Prosperity
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 05:55 PM
Jun 2016

ara.gov/WH/Accomplishments/eightyears-01.html

Longest economic expansion in American history
The President's strategy of fiscal discipline, open foreign markets and investments in the American people helped create the conditions for a record 115 months of economic expansion. Our economy has grown at an average of 4 percent per year since 1993.

More than 22 million new jobs
More than 22 million jobs were created in less than eight years -- the most ever under a single administration, and more than were created in the previous twelve years.

Highest homeownership in American history
A strong economy and fiscal discipline kept interest rates low, making it possible for more families to buy homes. The homeownership rate increased from 64.2 percent in 1992 to 67. 7 percent, the highest rate ever.

Lowest unemployment in 30 years
Unemployment dropped from more than 7 percent in 1993 to just 4.0 percent in November 2000. Unemployment for African Americans and Hispanics fell to the lowest rates on record, and the rate for women is the lowest in more than 40 years.

Raised education standards, increased school choice, and doubled education and training investment
Since 1992, reading and math scores have increased for 4th, 8th, and 12th graders, math SAT scores are at a 30-year high, the number of charter schools has grown from 1 to more than 2,000, forty-nine states have put in place standards in core subjects and federal investment in education and training has doubled.

Largest expansion of college opportunity since the GI Bill
President Clinton and Vice President Gore have nearly doubled financial aid for students by increasing Pell Grants to the largest award ever, expanding Federal Work-Study to allow 1 million students to work their way through college, and by creating new tax credits and scholarships such as Lifetime Learning tax credits and the HOPE scholarship. At the same time, taxpayers have saved $18 billion due to the decline in student loan defaults, increased collections and savings from the direct student loan program.

Connected 95 percent of schools to the Internet
President Clinton and Vice President Gore's new commitment to education technology, including the E-Rate and a 3,000 percent increase in educational technology funding, increased the percentage of schools connected to the Internet from 35 percent in 1994 to 95 percent in 1999.

Lowest crime rate in 26 years
Because of President Clinton's comprehensive anti-crime strategy of tough penalties, more police, and smart prevention, as well as common sense gun safety laws, the overall crime rate declined for 8 consecutive years, the longest continuous drop on record, and is at the lowest level since 1973.

100,000 more police for our streets
As part of the 1994 Crime Bill, President Clinton enacted a new initiative to fund 100,000 community police officers. To date more than 11,000 law enforcement agencies have received COPS funding.

Enacted most sweeping gun safety legislation in a generation
Since the President signed the Brady bill in 1993, more than 600,000 felons, fugitives, and other prohibited persons have been stopped from buying guns. Gun crime has declined 40 percent since 1992.

Family and Medical Leave Act for 20 million Americans
To help parents succeed at work and at home, President Clinton signed the Family and Medical Leave Act in 1993. Over 20 million Americans have taken unpaid leave to care for a newborn child or sick family member.

Smallest welfare rolls in 32 years
The President pledged to end welfare as we know it and signed landmark bipartisan welfare reform legislation in 1996. Since then, caseloads have been cut in half, to the lowest level since 1968, and millions of parents have joined the workforce. People on welfare today are five times more likely to be working than in 1992.

Higher incomes at all levels
After falling by nearly $2,000 between 1988 and 1992, the median family's income rose by $6,338, after adjusting for inflation, since 1993. African American family income increased even more, rising by nearly $7,000 since 1993. After years of stagnant income growth among average and lower income families, all income brackets experienced double-digit growth since 1993. The bottom 20 percent saw the largest income growth at 16.3 percent.

Lowest poverty rate in 20 years
Since Congress passed President Clinton's Economic Plan in 1993, the poverty rate declined from 15.1 percent to 11.8 percent last year — the largest six-year drop in poverty in nearly 30 years. There are now 7 million fewer people in poverty than in 1993. The child poverty rate declined more than 25 percent, the poverty rates for single mothers, African Americans and the elderly have dropped to their lowest levels on record, and Hispanic poverty dropped to its lowest level since 1979.

Lowest teen birth rate in 60 years
In his 1995 State of the Union Address, President Clinton challenged Americans to join together in a national campaign against teen pregnancy. The birth rate for teens aged 15-19 declined every year of the Clinton Presidency, from 60.7 per 1,000 teens in 1992 to a record low of 49.6 in 1999.

Lowest infant mortality rate in American history
The Clinton Administration expanded efforts to provide mothers and newborn children with health care. Today, a record high 82 percent of all mothers receive prenatal care. The infant mortality rate has dropped from 8.5 deaths per 1,000 in 1992 to 7.2 deaths per 1,000 in 1998, the lowest rate ever recorded.

Deactivated more than 1,700 nuclear warheads from the former Soviet Union
Efforts of the Clinton-Gore Administration led to the dismantling of more than 1,700 nuclear warheads, 300 launchers and 425 land and submarine based missiles from the former Soviet Union.

Protected millions of acres of American land
President Clinton has protected more land in the lower 48 states than any other president. He has protected 5 new national parks, designated 11 new national monuments and expanded two others and proposed protections for 60 million acres of roadless areas in America's national forests.

Paid off $360 billion of the national debt
Between 1998-2000, the national debt was reduced by $363 billion — the largest three-year debt pay-down in American history. We are now on track to pay off the entire debt by 2009.

Converted the largest budget deficit in American history to the largest surplus
Thanks in large part to the 1993 Deficit Reduction Act, the 1997 Balanced Budget Act, and President Clinton's call to save the surplus for debt reduction, Social Security, and Medicare solvency, America has put its fiscal house in order. The deficit was $290 billion in 1993 and expected to grow to $455 billion by this year. Instead, we have a projected surplus of $237 billion.

Lowest government spending in three decades
Under President Clinton federal government spending as a share of the economy has decreased from 22.2 percent in 1992 to a projected 18.5 percent in 2000, the lowest since 1966.

Lowest federal income tax burden in 35 years
President Clinton enacted targeted tax cuts such as the Earned Income Tax Credit expansion, $500 child tax credit, and the HOPE Scholarship and Lifetime Learning Tax Credits. Federal income taxes as a percentage of income for the typical American family have dropped to their lowest level in 35 years.

More families own stock than ever before
The number of families owning stock in the United States increased by 40 percent since 1992.

Most diverse cabinet in American history
The President has appointed more African Americans, women and Hispanics to the Cabinet than any other President in history. He appointed the first female Attorney General, the first female Secretary of State and the first Asian American cabinet secretary ever.

R B Garr

(16,992 posts)
35. +, plus a billion! This is more the reality of how mainstream America sees
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:08 PM
Jun 2016

the Clintons. Bill Clinton actually raised taxes on the highest income brackets and rolled back the Reagan tax cuts. He did that 25 years ago. It wasn't just talk; he did it. He left office with a surplus that would have been Al Gore's to protect for our future goals, many of them the same progressive ideas being talked about today.

But instead we got --- BUSH. For what!?? Some pie-in-the-sky talking points from Nader. It still pisses me off when I think about what Gore could have done.

karynnj

(59,505 posts)
31. As much as Hillary delegates to him
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

The position itself is ceremonial, but an important persuasive opportunity. Obviously, she will use him where she thinks he would help most.

Response to bobthedrummer (Original post)

athena

(4,187 posts)
56. Apparently, to some people,
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 10:11 PM
Jun 2016

the gender of the first spouse makes a huge difference. As in: if the first spouse is female, she gets no say in anything and doesn't even get to advise her husband; but when the first spouse is male, he gets to decide everything.

When you point out the sexism in this, they attack you by saying feminism has "gotten old" and accuse you of having a chip on your shoulder.

oasis

(49,410 posts)
54. Bill's great mind and political instincts will not be wasted. He also
Tue Jun 28, 2016, 09:40 PM
Jun 2016

brings with him a cadre of loyalists with administrative know how.

Lyric

(12,675 posts)
64. I believe that's Secretary Clinton's business to decide.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 01:18 PM
Jun 2016

Frankly, whatever she chooses is fine by me. I like them both.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
65. Loretta Lynch: Bill Clinton meeting "cast a shadow" over FBI investigation-live (Tom McCarthy)
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 01:46 PM
Jul 2016
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/jul/01/donald-trump-conspiracy-bill-clinton-loretta-lynch-election-2016

I voted for Bill Clinton for POTUS twice, he never inhaled, he didn't have sex with Monica Lewinsky, he just happened to be around AG Lynch's plane as she was going to the Aspen Institute-what a string of "unfortunate coincidences" for our potential "First Gentleman" uhu?

What do you think of this latest "gaffe"?

MineralMan

(146,334 posts)
68. OK, I'll participate. Presidential spouses take all sorts of roles,
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 02:57 PM
Jul 2016

but they're all unofficial. Hillary, for example, worked on health care reform. Why does this matter to you? Bill Clinton has the experience of a former President, so I'm sure he can provide that perspective, when requested. But, then, Hillary also lived in the White House for eight years, served as a Senator, and as Secretary of State in Obama's administration. I'm pretty sure she knows the ropes and will walk into the Oval Office ready to go from day one.

In fact, there's really nobody else who could do that. Bill will be around, at least some of the time, and I'm sure will be happy to lend whatever advice he might have, but only when he is asked for it. Hillary Clinton is not anyone's background character. She will be fully in charge, I assure you.

On the other hand, maybe Bill Clinton will brush up on his cookie-baking skills or something and take up gardening and decorating.

This is a silly question you have asked, I think. You've seen Hillary Clinton. She is more than capable of thinking on her own and making decisions based on that thinking. I expect her to do just that, taking advice from all sorts of people, but then acting as she things best.

Hillary 2016!

 

leeroysphitz

(10,462 posts)
67. Why would he have any? The First Spouse isn't an actual government position lol
Fri Jul 1, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jul 2016

It doesn't come with any responsibilities, authority or duties does it?

Maybe he can give out healthy cookie recipes.

 

La Lioness Priyanka

(53,866 posts)
71. she was given a lot of responsibility in his admin, so he'll some in hers. he's older though
Fri Jul 8, 2016, 01:49 PM
Jul 2016

so i imagine he can't work at the same pace now.

 

bobthedrummer

(26,083 posts)
74. He needs to go on another diet-doesn't he? And also get rid of those many toxins he has inside him.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 01:37 PM
Jul 2016
 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
78. Why would he get any official role?
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 10:20 PM
Jul 2016

I'm not aware of a single presidential spouse having any real authority over anything. He wasn't elected and doesn't get to legislate.

LuvLoogie

(7,037 posts)
81. No authority, but perhaps some substantial influence in some areas.
Sat Jul 9, 2016, 10:39 PM
Jul 2016

And not only with Hillary, but with many across Washington.

emulatorloo

(44,188 posts)
86. Hillary worked on healthcare, Laura Bush focused on reading/education/childhood development,
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:42 AM
Jul 2016

Michelle Obama focused on childhood obesity and supporting families of military serving abroad.

None of these things were 'official duties', but presidential spouses usually have a cause they support and promote.

I expect Bill Clinton will have a project he works on along those positive lines as well.

You seem to imply it will be something nefarious. I think you are mistaken.

 

ericson00

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88. Who cares. I trust their judgment
Sun Jul 10, 2016, 04:14 AM
Jul 2016

Because I openly embrace "buy one get one free" and yes, I embrace Billary. Sue me.

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