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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:02 PM Jul 2016

I stand with the Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court

Justice Ginsberg is a stalwart and a national treasure. She is an impeccable jurist with a devotion social justice and a brilliant and tenacious mind. She does not give up and she has seen her efforts and positions vindicated over time.

And she was absolutely right in her criticisms of Trump and even more in the right when she refused to back down after his pathetic little tweet. He tweets, she crafts legal arguments that have advanced the rights of women, minorities and persons of the LGBT community probably more than any other individual of the past 50 years.

She was right to raise the warning flag against trump's candidacy. She knew there would be public push back and she, as always, made the reasoned decision. At the right moment she said the right thing.

Trump has already attacked the judiciary, signaling that a trump administration could be a very real threat to our function of government, our separation of powers. We've seen despots and demoguages rise to power and begin by attacking the judges. "The first thing we do, we kill all the lawyers."

Trump crosses lines regularly. He's a megalomaniac and gets a little tiny hard on from doing so. But the lines he crosses are necessary lines. We can leave nothing to chance. Everyone in a position to make the media listen should be sounding the alarms.

Thank you Justice Ginsberg.

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I stand with the Honorable Ruth Bader Ginsberg, Associate Justice of the Supreme Court (Original Post) morningfog Jul 2016 OP
As do I. nt villager Jul 2016 #1
I encourage everyone to watch Chris Hayes segment... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #2
Exactly. I haven't seen that, but he's a real threat to the courts. morningfog Jul 2016 #3
The author gave a splendid analysis of RBG's state of mind: "Incandescent with anger... Hekate Jul 2016 #22
+1 tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #30
Should I mention Uponthegears Jul 2016 #4
Scalia regularly chimed in on political issues and politicians and nobody said shit about it. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #5
I stand with the notorious RBG as well. AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #6
Absolutely not TeddyR Jul 2016 #7
She is sounding alarms they have found the courage to sound yet. morningfog Jul 2016 #8
No serious political or court analyst TeddyR Jul 2016 #9
She was in the right: morningfog Jul 2016 #10
Well said. Someone has to speak out about this idiot, since the M$M is unwilling, and too many LuckyLib Jul 2016 #15
unless you criticized scalia for his dozens of political statements, please know niyad Jul 2016 #11
Bullshit! Raster Jul 2016 #12
^^^ THIS ^^^ n/t L. Coyote Jul 2016 #20
Who was the justice that called Obama "liar"during the state of the union address? seabeyond Jul 2016 #13
And remember how terrible we thought that was? This is the same. Nt Logical Jul 2016 #17
Keeping it in perspective, but you are right. Suppose to be a political. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #25
That was congressman during the SOTU. morningfog Jul 2016 #27
Ir was a congressman who did that. 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #24
Thanks. I couldn't remember exactly what it was. Nt seabeyond Jul 2016 #26
Congressman. It was Justice Alito who shook his head in denial at Obama's words. Hekate Jul 2016 #34
I stand with RBG Gothmog Jul 2016 #14
No, she should not have said it. Love her but she was wrong! Nt Logical Jul 2016 #16
K&R! DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #18
And Trump responded by illustrating her point, he childishly began name calling her & insulting her L. Coyote Jul 2016 #19
Yep. K & R. 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #21
KnR. Fear the Frill. Hekate Jul 2016 #23
Me too mcar Jul 2016 #28
The United States is her court. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #29
CNN is reporting that Ginseng has said that she regrets her comments on trump NWCorona Jul 2016 #31
And I stand with you nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #32
She was right in her opinion but wrong to say it. Wayburn Jul 2016 #33
IOKYAR.The RightWingers on the Court are politically active. Virginia Thomas is up to her neck in it Hekate Jul 2016 #35

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
2. I encourage everyone to watch Chris Hayes segment...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:08 PM
Jul 2016

with the author of "The Honorable RBG" on tonight's show. It was very informative and gave great insight as to why she said what she did. Essentially knowing Trump would dismantle the court...

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
3. Exactly. I haven't seen that, but he's a real threat to the courts.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:12 PM
Jul 2016

That is, quite literally, the worst thing a presidential candidate can be.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
22. The author gave a splendid analysis of RBG's state of mind: "Incandescent with anger...
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 01:21 AM
Jul 2016

...at the normalization of Trump's candidacy." She's been all about the rules her whole life, amd here's this buffoon smashing everything in his path.

I stand with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
30. +1
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 09:43 AM
Jul 2016

I thought it made complete sense and I stand with her as well.

All of the vapors over this makes me sick. What about the justices who were hanging out with donors, right wing politicians, bashing Obama, etc. Oh, that's right...it's only okay if you're a Republican.

 

Uponthegears

(1,499 posts)
4. Should I mention
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:21 PM
Jul 2016

That the now-deceased Antonin Scalia gave literally dozens, if not hundreds, of political speeches and NO ONE SAID A THING.

Ginsburg makes a couple of quips about a psychotic charlatan and we see "Democrats" talking about recusal.

WTF?

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
5. Scalia regularly chimed in on political issues and politicians and nobody said shit about it.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:26 PM
Jul 2016

Let a woman Associate Justice express an opinion about the most sexist asshole nominee for president in history and white men on the right proclaim the end of the Supreme Court!

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
7. Absolutely not
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:28 PM
Jul 2016

The only people supporting her statements are a few folks who don't care that this is a black eye for the Supreme Court. Both the NY Times and Washington Post editorial boards say she made a mistake, as do numerous folks who follow the court. I haven't seen a single reputable news source defend what she said. She simply provided a talking point for Trump and fodder for those who question the legitimacy of the Supreme Court. The court should be the most apolitical entity in this country.

 

morningfog

(18,115 posts)
8. She is sounding alarms they have found the courage to sound yet.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:32 PM
Jul 2016

This is no black eye for the court. Ginsberg is an able and serious jurist.

No one operates under the illusion that the Court is apolitical. It is where all politics eventually converge. Everything about it is political, as it should be.

If Justice Ginsberg sees it necessary to share her opinion again, I trust she will.

 

TeddyR

(2,493 posts)
9. No serious political or court analyst
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:34 PM
Jul 2016

Supports her actions. She made a mistake that hopefully won't be repeated.

On edit, here's the latest from the Post again saying she made a mistake and rejecting the arguments I've seen here. https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/07/13/the-ginsburg-counterarguments/?hpid=hp_hp-cards_mhp-card-posteverything%3Ahomepage%2Fcard

LuckyLib

(6,817 posts)
15. Well said. Someone has to speak out about this idiot, since the M$M is unwilling, and too many
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:11 AM
Jul 2016

powerful forces in this country are giving this goon a free ride.

And your statement: "No one operates under the illusion that the Court is apolitical. It is where all politics eventually converge. Everything about it is political, as it should be." is exactly on target.

niyad

(113,029 posts)
11. unless you criticized scalia for his dozens of political statements, please know
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:43 PM
Jul 2016

that your statements about RBG are pure hypocrisy

Raster

(20,998 posts)
12. Bullshit!
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jul 2016

I stand with Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsberg, and I appreciate her honesty and applaud her courage to speak up.

"The court should be the most apolitical entity in this country."


Yes it should, but has not been so since the Raygun administration.

"...Reputable news source..." We're you actually able to type that with a straight face?

3catwoman3

(23,943 posts)
24. Ir was a congressman who did that.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 02:42 AM
Jul 2016

Joe Wilson.

Justice Alito was visibly shaking his head over something President Obama said, and mouthed the words, "Not true," but did not speak aloud.

 

Wayburn

(24 posts)
33. She was right in her opinion but wrong to say it.
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jul 2016

Justices should not appear political or pre biased against anyone.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
35. IOKYAR.The RightWingers on the Court are politically active. Virginia Thomas is up to her neck in it
Thu Jul 14, 2016, 12:16 PM
Jul 2016

Who calls for their recusal or apologies? Crickets.

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