CNN saying Cruz/Trump debacle was staged. Fake "reality show" w/Trump marching out

[anneboleyn]

On CNN they are saying (John King, Jake Tapper) that the whole incident was clearly staged -- Trump's helicopter, "apprentice-like" buzzing Cruz's press conference before tonight's ceremonies, Trump and co. saw Cruz's speech BEFORE tonight and knew it did not contain an endorsement, then the exact "timing" of Trump walking out towards the conclusion of Cruz's speech (while encouraging the audience to boo Cruz), etc. This is just ridiculous and appalling -- and the tacky manipulation of the television audience is so grossly tacky Trump. Craziness all night combined with a showdown with the "villain" Cruz -- how convenient.

[MohRokTah]

1. Poppycock

Trump is too incompetent to "stage" anything in this convention.

[anneboleyn]

4. I tend to agree but the timing of Trump's walk out plus all cameras on him AS HE WALKED OUT

seems odd to me. The cameras didn't even show Cruz leave the stage; they focused on Trump marching towards the stage like a "hero challenging the villain." Trump thinks any drama is good drama, so he was hoping for this craziness.

[RonniePudding]

8. The timing was aimed at shutting Cruz up

They were shitting bricks behind the scenes at what he was saying and how it was unraveling their third night. He went out there to put out the dumpster fire.

[StraightRazor]

9. I think that by the time Trump hobbled out the damage had been done...

it was several moments after Cruz told folks to vote their conscience and booing had commenced.

[Daemonaquila]

20. I'm with you.

Someone, obviously, is set on making this less of a cluster****. Not that this scenario would improve things, but some idiots in the GOP might be cheered by it. Colbert, Noah, Stewart, et al are all sitting there with their jaws on the floor, crying with the beauty of it, saying "Thank you GOP, the comedy gift that keeps on giving!"

[MFM008]

2. didnt feel like it

they showed audience reactions..I thought Christie was going to attack and eat Cruz.

[StraightRazor]

11. Still might...

[MFM008]

17. your right

[ChairmanAgnostic]

38. A late nacht snack, then

[global1]

3. Sounds Like What Happens In Wrestling....nt

[anneboleyn]

10. Exactly. And Trump is a cheap showman!!

[GReedDiamond]

5. IOW, staged like a WWE event...

...professional wrestling is "real."

Entering the arena, and diverting attention while your past and/or present opponent is ranting and raving is the classic Pro Wrasslin' hype-building scenario.

Vince (McMahon) and The Donald have worked together in the past.

[book_worm]

6. Who cares? It still is evidence of a party that is anything but unified.

[sufrommich]

7. I don't believe that. David Shuster tweeted that Cruz

delivered a different speech than he gave RNC in advance.

[geek tragedy]

18. Has Shuster regained his sanity now that he's not covering Hillary?

[doc03]

12. Tweety is pushing the same thing on MSNBC nt

[vadermike]

13. Cnn

CNN panel John King saying GOP is not united says nato thing isn't good contradicting pence Chuck toad said convention a mess I don't think the trump people intended this they are fuckin incompetent ! Go dems ! Our convention will be worlds better !

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. BUUUUUUULLLLLLLSHIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTT

[C_U_L8R]

15. Why would Cruz torch his own career?

I don't think it was staged... I think Cruz is betting that Trump will lose.
And in 4 years he'll be the last man standing in the Republican party.

[zappaman]

16. Exactly.

In 4 years, this wil prove how honest he is and how he stands up for what is right!

[C_U_L8R]

19. That said, Trump absolutely staged his part

The Trump team saw Cruz's speech ahead of time, they saw Cruz going long
and they whipped the mob up. And Trump made his entrance right on cue.
But isn't this all a bunch of sandbox nastiness. All Trump did was get a jab in
on Cruz and take the spotlight away from his own VP. I do believe
Trump will eventually be his own undoing, with or without our assistance.

[JaneyVee]

21. Nah, they are just that crazy.

[UCmeNdc]

22. Trump did his antics to upstage Cruz.

Trump controlled the convention. He knew before hand that Cruz was going to be a problem. He knew he needed to take the spotlight off Cruz if Cruz did not endorse. All of those antics Trump pulled were put in place before Cruz's speech just in case Cruz might upstage The Con man.

[UCmeNdc]

23. These guys play for keeps. Power politics!

Hillary should take notes. Trump will attempt the same kind of things with her.

[Kathy M]

26. Agree ....

Heard Mr T made a tweet about Cruz even before something about his vice president nominee ..... Plus Mr T buzzed Cruz with his plane .... Sounds like a scene from Top Gun ...... T did this all on purpose

[LenaBaby61]

24. CNN saying Cruz/Trump debacle was staged. Fake "reality show" w/Trump marching out.

[Doctor Jack]

25. That makes no sense

If Cruz wanted to help trump, he would have endorsed him months ago and would have agreed to be his VP. If Cruz was interested, trump would have offered it to cruz over pence. It would have help unify the party and bring trumps numbers up. How does cruz telling trump to fuck off when the entire world is paying attention help? If he endorses in a few weeks or few months, Trump would still be in a deeper hole than if cruz had not shown up at all and never endorsed trump.

There are too many risks and virtually no rewards for either cruz or trump. This is typical conspiracy theory nonsense; too complicated to make sense. Its far more likely that Cruz, a self serving, vindictive asshole came out to get revenge on trump for attacking his family during the primaries. That is far more logical than some staged political theater where he embarsses trump, tells him to fuck off, and then some day endorses him. There is no rhyme or reason why such a thing would happen.

[Hekate]

27. Staged by Manafort and Trump. The description by Tweetie et al. was jaw dropping.

Manafort was whipping the NY delegation. Heilemann (?) saw it, asked M afterward if he did that, and M said nothing to deny it. Trump was standing in the shadows during Cruz's speech, and as the crowd started booing and Cruz kept talking, Trump stepped into the light.

Jesus Christ! That whole thing was as "spontaneous" as the Brown Shirts marching out of the beer cellars!

Edited to add: Heidi Cruz started to leave during the booing and became surrounded by people shouting at her and threatening. Some delegation (I didn't catch who) was able to escort her out safely.

[eastwestdem]

28. Because he wanted no one to pay attention to his VP pick? nt

[Hekate]

30. Because The Donald can't go 5 minutes without hogging the spotlight?

[tblue37]

33. He even called in to do a live phone interview with O'Reilley while Pat Smith was

giving her speech on Monday. Before the plagiarism was caught, that speech by Pat Smith was intended to be Monday's emotional highlight, but Trump couldn't stand not being the one in the spotlight.

Besides, he has no attention span, so while she was speaking he needed something to do, preferably something that would satisfy his need for attention.

[kcjohn1]

29. Not staged, but Trump knew about the non-endorsement

I think he made the calculated decision that having even half hostile Cruz would be better than non show like all the other big hitters. Drama in his world is not bad. Also I think this helps him with the base.

I'm so happy Cruz killed his political career. I can't stand this guy. IMO he is much worse than Trump. Such calculating SOB, am certain he knew he would get booed (had that NY line all ready). The GOP base will not forgive him when Trump loses.

[The_Casual_Observer]

31. When it was clear what Cruz was doing Trump said

Thats enough, I'm shutting it down.

This wasnt part of Trumps plan, he was punked by Cruz.

[Kathy M]

36. agree

this was not staged

[tblue37]

32. Cruz wants another run at the office in 2020. I don't think he would go

along with a staged script that made him look that bad.

[Doctor Jack]

34. Exactly, too many people would be involved to keep it a secret

Its that same problem with all conspiracy theories, there are just too many people to stay hush hush, forever really. Also, I see no benefit to trump or cruz to do such a thing.

[lunamagica]

35. I don't believe it. Cruz was booed, and his wife had to be escorted out by securiy

Why would he want to be subjected to that?

as for trump, this is the firs time I've seen him unsettled, disturbed. He seemed distracted during his son's speech and his interaction with Pence (air kiss and all) was awkward. He wasn't his usual arrogant self.

[greymattermom]

37. Good

Keep it up. Show him unsettled and disturbed. Distracted too, as often as possible.