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Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:52 PM Jul 2016

Finally, after viewing this week's Republican National Convention, I'm With Her.

Last edited Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:52 PM - Edit history (1)

During the primaries, I was very vocal about being extremely conflicted about voting for Hillary Clinton, considering her past support for the 1994 Crime Bill, support for the Iraq War, support for Welfare Reform, support for deregulating the financial industry, her conduct during the 2008 Democratic primary, and a good number of policies that she supported that I am diametrically opposed to, and for good reason. I'm a black male.

I could rehash everything that was said during the primary about her (most, if not all of which, can be supported by either video or textual evidence).

However, after viewing portions of this year's Republican convention, I'm here to say that while I will not be making calls, or phone banking, or canvassing for her, I will, WITHOUT A DOUBT, vote for her in November. A quick review of the last three days has yielded the following:

- a potential First Lady plagiarizing almost two paragraphs (verbatim) from Michelle Obama's 2008 DNC speech, with so many media and Republican operatives contorting their language like pretzels to defend her that Cirque du Soleil would blush;
- a sitting U.S. Congressman adopting white supremacist language (Steve King - IA) and being allowed to spew it openly in the mainstream press without much pushback;
- a Sheriff's officer (David Clarke, Jr.) being allowed to spew so much anti-black vitriol that I can only hope to make as much money as what will be in the contract he'll receive from Fox after this convention;
- Laura Ingraham engaging in a Nazi salute to a jumbotron image of Donald Trump;
- a delegate suggesting that Hillary Clinton should be subjected to being killed by firing squad;
- a sitting governor suggesting that she should be locked up ...

... and other behavior which should be revolting to any self-respecting Democrat or liberal.

I understand that she's not perfect. FAR FROM IT. Yes, she has huge issues with trust (some of it earned, some of it a result of continuous Republican witch hunts). However, no candidate is ever perfect, and with the system that we have in place, until we have multiple parties that are able to sustain themselves and multiple political positions that can be adequately represented in our government, it is ABSOLUTELY IMPERATIVE that we keep the fascists, authoritarians, and totalitarians out of office. That's what the modern Republican Party has become. There is no compassionate conservatism here, at all. The party is anti-immigrant, anti-LGBTQ, anti-Muslim, anti-woman, anti-black, and not one thing was done by the Republican Party this week to counter that narrative.

That's what Hillary Clinton isn't, and to any Bernie Sanders supporters that are reading this OP, now is not the time to stay on the fence. Flash back to 2000. How did it feel for you to go to bed election night thinking Al Gore won only to wake up the very next day and an opposite result flashed across your TV? How did it feel to have the SCOTUS decide the election? How did the disaster of 2000-2008 feel? How did 9/11 and the ensuing demonizing of liberals feel after that? How did Iraq feel? How did losing everything that you'd worked so hard for in the Great Recession feel? If you seriously consider sitting out this election or voting third party, there's a possibility that these same gut-wrenching feelings will be there this November.

Fellow Bernie supporters, I'm not asking for you to sit down and shut up. Of course you should still continue to work for the progress Bernie campaigned on during the primary. Of course you should remain engaged in the process to gain more progress for working families and the poor. Of course you should continue to fight against the corporate influence in the party. No one (and I'd even wager that even Hillary supporters would agree) is asking you to stop doing that. Healthy parties are able to consider all political viewpoints. There's still down ticket Democrats running on progressive platforms that can help push the party to the left. We should work even harder once she's elected to push her and the party back to where it should be.

Sometimes progress is a slow process. We absolutely cannot afford to get November wrong. Yes, we have to do something about trade deals and job offshoring and outsourcing, but there are are at least 3-4 SCOTUS justices that will be appointed by the next President. There's far too much to protect for Democrats (ACA, voting rights, women's rights, etc.) to sit it out or vote third party.

Because of this (and because of the last three days of the RNC), I can confidently say, I'M WITH HER.

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Finally, after viewing this week's Republican National Convention, I'm With Her. (Original Post) Renaissance Man Jul 2016 OP
Thank you for such a well thought out and written post! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #1
Thank you. And to your points about the convention, I would add pnwmom Jul 2016 #2
well written. nt retrowire Jul 2016 #3
K & R 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #4
well said and well thought out Sheepshank Jul 2016 #5
I hear you. BigDemVoter Jul 2016 #6
I hear you. austinlw Jul 2016 #7
Good post. Welcome to DU. nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #9
Hillary has political gravitas bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #8
Welcome aboard. We need every single vote. nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #10
Same here. Politics, after all, is the art of the possible. forest444 Jul 2016 #11
I was for Bernie as well CanonRay Jul 2016 #12
She is not the only person that needs help. LiberalFighter Jul 2016 #13
So what you are saying is jcgoldie Jul 2016 #14
Absolutely. Renaissance Man Jul 2016 #15

tallahasseedem

(6,716 posts)
1. Thank you for such a well thought out and written post!
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 01:57 PM
Jul 2016

Amongst all the craziness, it is great to read this!

With all of us united, there's no way we won't win in November!

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
2. Thank you. And to your points about the convention, I would add
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jul 2016

Ben Carson's linking Hillary to Lucifer -- showing that this IS the witch-hunt it has appeared to be all along.

And Trump announcing that he may not support NATO. He's given hints of that before, but this time he's gone that much further.

He's a sociopath and we need to defeat him.

Thank you for joining the fight.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
5. well said and well thought out
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:38 PM
Jul 2016

I think the imperative to keep Trump out of the White house becomes more poignant when truly listening to him and his enablers. Abstaining or voting from Trump is completely off the rails and unreasonable.

BigDemVoter

(4,150 posts)
6. I hear you.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jul 2016

It was a tough road. Your last paragraph says it all. I can't sit it out or vote for a 3rd party. I'm with Hillary too. I didn't ever think I'd be able to completely say it. Given the alternative, I'll be RUNNING to pull the lever for Hillary.

austinlw

(54 posts)
7. I hear you.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:04 PM
Jul 2016

I voted Bernie too. But this is a choice between a candidate with, at very least, mainstream views (even if she is to the right of some of us sometimes) with actual federal government experience vs. an inexperienced sociopathic authoritarian fascist. This election is the most important in my lifetime and I'm 60. As much as the thought makes me nauseous, I'd vote for W over this guy.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
11. Same here. Politics, after all, is the art of the possible.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

Yes, Dr. Stein is closer to me politically - but I'm not thinking as much about November 8 as I am about January 20.

When confronting Fascists in battle, the Spanish Republicans used to steel themselves with the phrase "no pasarán!" - which, as everyone knows, means:

They.shall.not.pass.

And this year - especially if one lives in a swing state (as I do) - that means voting for Hillary Clinton.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
12. I was for Bernie as well
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 04:53 PM
Jul 2016

but we simply cannot allow any risk that the GOP in it's current form gets the White House. That party has been taken over by lunatics.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
13. She is not the only person that needs help.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:08 PM
Jul 2016

There are many other candidates that need volunteers. Both at the local and federal level. They are all important. Change doesn't happen at one level. Change at the local/state level makes it easier to change at the federal level. Electing candidates that can support and also push the President in the right direction helps a lot too. President Obama could had accomplished a lot more if there were more elected Democrats in Congress and especially of the right type.

There are some people that think that Obama had 2 years of Democratic control of Congress. That is a myth.

Here is a post I did on Facebook.

It might be good to refresh yourself on why it is a myth that Obama had a Democratic super majority for two years in the Senate.

The Democrats did not have a filibuster proof Senate until July 7, 2009 lasting 50 days before Ted Kennedy died August 25th. There were only 24 working days. The Senate was in recess for 4 weeks beginning the 2nd week in August. The Democrats again had a filibuster proof Senate starting September 25, 2009 until February 4, 2010 for a period of 132 days. There were 10 working days in 2009 and 13 working days in 2010.

The combined period of a super majority in the Senate for the Democrats was 47 working days.

The above was researched using the 2009 and 2010 Senate calendar along with the timeline associated with vacancies and replacements.

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jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
14. So what you are saying is
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jul 2016

the RNC has been more effective at "unifying the party" than anyone realized... maybe just the wrong one

Renaissance Man

(669 posts)
15. Absolutely.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 05:12 PM
Jul 2016

They've done a better job at Democratic Party unity than I think either Hillary or Bernie could have ever imagined. By the end of this week, we may see David Brock and Tad Devine having a drink together and laughing the primary off altogether.

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