Hey, I just want to say, FUCK anybody who tries to disrupt the DEMOCRATIC Party convention

[bravenak]

That shit where people were booing the speaker onstage, or not endorsing the nominee at the convention has no fucking place at the Democratic convention. We don't need no shit stirrers or Stein supporters trying to finagle their way into our party to shit in the punchbowl.

No. You don't have the right to protest our convention. It is a private party for Demorats and whomever we invite and no you are not invited to come to our space to try to make us look as insane as the Republican party. Have your own convention if you need to have a big ol mosh pit and tar and feather somebody.

I think that anybody who tries to disrupt our party is not a true member of our party and just working for the Greens to fuck us over and allow Trump to win. Anybody helping Trump win is a utter piece of shit.

[UMTerp01]

1. Agreed. Concessions were made and acknowledgment has been giving to Sanders. So...

DON'T START NONE....WON'T BE NONE!!!

[bravenak]

8. BOOM!

[m-lekktor]

37. I am sure many of the protesters will not be Sanders fans.

The "actual" far left never liked him all that much.

[Warren DeMontague]

111. The most progressive platform in history. We support a $15 min wage & a path to legal cannabis.

The GOP platform is a bigoted screed and sop to the religious right, that declares pornography a "public health crisis" - they want to censor what people can watch or say on the internet, they want to roll back rights like marriage equality for LGBT citizens. Teach the Bible as science in public schools.

Derp.

The contrasts could not be clearer. The question is as pertinent today as it ever was: Which side are you on? I know which side I'm on.

On to November!

[NurseJackie]

2. Why do you want to "disenfranchise" the protesters? :-P

[tallahasseedem]

5. Ugh...

that notion that played out in another thread was insane!!!

[bravenak]

9. You are awesome, lol

[chillfactor]

10. oh stop it...

good god...we want a sane, organized, and peaceful convention....not a circus like we saw this week.

[NurseJackie]

17. Yes we do!

In case you thought I was serious, I wasn't. I was winking at Bravenak regarding another silly thread.

[Hortensis]

89. Yes, well I want a free people gathering there.

There's much to admire about many of the people currently bloviating on this thread, but I do not admire the post. I'm not afraid of these people acting out and I'm certainly not going to demand they don't. Big deal if they do.

OUR party is strong, united and very professional and well organized around a strong leader, and if it comes to it, we can handle some disruption from the inevitable discontents who show up at every convention.

[puffy socks]

19. Ha!

Too funny!

[treestar]

3. K&R

Bernie lost and he's with Hillary now.

[bravenak]

11. Yes! All real dems are with her

Stein supporters can kick rocks

[MohRokTah]

4. Fuckin' A right!

Anyody who disrupts the convention IS NOT A DEMOCRAT!

[bravenak]

12. Absolutely

I hate them calling it free speech like it's really free. It will cost us votes so fuuuucckk them.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

25. You hate free speech then.

Your problem.

[bravenak]

30. No. Their problem if they disrupt our PRIVATE convention

The first amendment does not cover a private party or political party not letting protesters inside. They can stay they fuck outside and free speech their asses off. Just not at our fucking party. Fuck that. I also don't let people into my home to call me names and shit on my furniture. They want to shit on us. We wont fucking let them they can fuck off. Fucking greens are full of shit.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

36. Whatever you say, dear.

Now back to those first amendment zones you seem to be fond of...

[bravenak]

39. Umm hmm

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

44. I didn't realize that one could stutter while writing...

[bravenak]

48. When I find a person who is clueless I tend to stutter in disbelief

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

52. Now let's get back to those first amendment zones

you seem to be fond of...

[bravenak]

55. Why? What's the point?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

138. It's shows your true side.

[bravenak]

140. Best to not discuss me

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

147. This is a message board, and the internets remember

when a mask slips.

[bravenak]

148. This is a message board not a gossip board. We don't discuss posters here. That's JPR

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

152. But we can discuss what the write.

"I hate them calling it free speech like it's really free."



You should really delete that embarassment of a post.

[bravenak]

154. Go ahead and discuss it with somebody

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

159. Oh, it's just a ridiculous post. Sad really.

[bravenak]

162. Anything else?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

164. It depends...

[bravenak]

165. I hope you find somebody to discuss it with

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

178. No need. Everybody can read what I have written...

and more importantly, what you have.

[bravenak]

180. Like they care that much about me to be obsessed with my writings

Only a small fraction of people are obsessed with my writings.

[Loki]

53. That wasn't a stutter.

Seriously, you can't read that?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

58. Seriously dude, first amendment zones, and stuff.

And not cool, dude, and more stuff.

[Loki]

60. I'm not your dude, dude.

[bravenak]

66. I have no idea why you think the first amendment covers political parties

But it doesn't. Political parties are not 'the government'. We can shut down any speech we want at our convention.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

71. Good fir you fir shutting down speech.

I imagine that HRC probably would handle it better than shutting down dissent, but perhaps it is not too late for some ahem... democrats to help her see the light.

[bravenak]

76. Yes. It is good for me to stop shit heads from shitting on our convention.

We want a positive convention. Fucking republicans are the nutters. Not us.

[KPN]

233. Seriously?

[Loki]

56. That wasn't a stutter.

Seriously, you can't read that?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

61. Looks like the replies are stuttering now.

[Loki]

70. You know what

I really don't care what you think, when you have nothing positive to say. Go and disrupt the Republican convention, I think you might find more like minded people there.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

86. Oh, dear, I see some kindred spirits in this thread that might agree

on some of the things that the GOP does, but sadly you really can't read into me at all.

[chillfactor]

81. give it up already......

you are only here to be disruptive....that is NOT what DU is all about.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

93. When I see DUers applauding first amendment zones

then that is pretty chilling, and far worse than anything I have written.

So no, I will not give it up when I see that shit.

[DonCoquixote]

104. it is one thing to dislike "first amendment zones"

It is another to not want the convention to be a carnival of sorrows like the GOP has been, where even Ted Cruz has to duck the crowds, and people outright call for violence.

Let me put it to you another, if violence breaks out, and someone gets sent to the hospital or morgue, will you pintificate about how this is a good thing? I hope you are not given the opportunity to answer that.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

115. First amendment zones, and those that support them,

are a page out of the GOP playbook. I read in disbelief when DUers applaud that.

Nobody wants a carnival, but the poster of the OP is as usual over the top with this nonsense.

Instead of reaching out to heal the rift I see more fighting of the Primary that is OVER. And BTW: said poster was against both candidates FWIW: puer disruption.

I in a diifernt OP have said I will vot for HRC, but I amalso tired to shit of this BS skirting if the TOS.

Ifoubt very much that HRC will act like some posters on DU would like her to. I expect her to resch out early with Sanders.

The Dems have nobody like Cruze that will piss in the punch bowl, but if there was I would expect the Dems to not act like the Repubs that wanted to hurt Cruze.

That's the difference: Liberals, Progressives, Dems don't act like repubs, but some seem to want that in this thread.

[KPN]

234. You seem to be comparing Trump diehards to

progressives who may not support all of Hillary's positions or the Democratic Party establishment.

[DonCoquixote]

235. what I am saying is that there are always kooks

who will gladly kill someone for 15 minutes of fame, regardless of whether the see themselves as the agent of Jesus, Allah, Washington, Stalin, or whatever Extraterrestials get discussed on the History channel/ lunacy du jour. Sadly, it only takes a few to kill people.

[Avalon Sparks]

238. Indeed, it is chilling

In 2001 we were united on DU against the First Amendment Zones, and a mere 15 years later we have forum members demanding them.

I thought hypocrisy was a Repug thing....

[George II]

77. Two DIFFERENT words is not stuttering. What's with the 'tude?

[larkrake]

84. my God, closed minds are a problem

kettling democrats is not constitutional when fighting for a primary

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

118. Thanks for excuse #17

[sheshe2]

95. "Dear"....

So cute and condescending. Bravo Daneel!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You out did yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:clap

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

119. Oh, I could never outdo most here on DU. They have that sh!t down

to an artform... right along with the patently superior song and dance.

[sheshe2]

122. no... you are the king!

Boom~

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

134. I'm surprised you didn't resort to "I'm rubber and you're glue...

[sheshe2]

143. Your response is so cute.

I think I want to give you a huge hug for your juvenile response.

I so loved elementary school! Lo,~ It was fun.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

149. Well, it appears that you go there often.

[G_j]

120. Nice language...

so eloquent!

[NanceGreggs]

42. If you think ...

... that disrupting what is essentially a by-invitation, private event is exercising "free speech", you're the one with the problem.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

46. Whatever you say.

[George II]

74. NOT "free speech" when you're at an event and you disrupt it.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

78. Nothing has happened yet, except for a lot of

bravado and chest thumping.

[George II]

83. "BA bravado"?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

191. She probably has no love for fools, their speech, and their foolish actions, especially when they

could help to be bringing a fascist idiot to the White House. These are tough times and there's no room for people who would help someone worse than Bush become president because of their stubborn idiocy. I'm talking about the protestors, of course.

[puffy socks]

34. Amen!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

20. Protest is unDemocratic?

Should they be put in "first amendment zones" now?

[MohRokTah]

21. That would be appropriate.

Put them in a free speech zone two miles from the convention.

PERFECT!!!

[bravenak]

23. Great Idea!!!!!

[bravenak]

31. The disrupters are the ones who have a problem with us DEMOCRATS not letting them come to our

party to act like fucking assholes. The greens, the Trump fans, the peopke who want to disrupt and help Trump win are infiltrators and can go burn up off the block.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

41. I'm not really sure what affiliation you are, but your stance

is both militant and sad...IMHO.

Trump supporters, infiltrators?

Okay...

[bravenak]

43. Let us not discuss me

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

47. Too late.

[bravenak]

49. Not for me

I find it easy to not discuss posters. I tend to discuss the op.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

54. Ah, yes, the discussion offirst amendment zones and

and squashing debate...

Please continue...

[bravenak]

57. You go ahead if you have something to say

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

65. I already have.

But let's discuss the little slip about first amendment zones.

One should be careful not to become like the enemy that they fight.

[bravenak]

67. Why do you think the first amendment has anything to do with our convention? Seriously.

[Sheepshank]

166. Please explain 1st amendment and how invited private party goers affects that free speech

This should be good

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

177. Why not let the Dems explain...

http://www.press.org/news-multimedia/news/democratic-convention-officials-emphasize-first-amendment-rights-safety

Democratic Convention officials emphasize First Amendment rights, safety

Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney promised to respect protestors' rights, keep them safe at next month's Democratic convention.

Democratic National Convention officials on Tuesday expressed their support for potential protesters' First Amendment rights and promised to ensure their safety at next month's event.

Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney cited his city's record of handling large events, such as the Occupy protests and the papal visit, while protecting those taking part.

[Warren Stupidity]

231. yes but those are just words!

we've got real emotions here, raw, angry! Gotta lock 'em up. Gotta put 'em in a zone.

[George II]

94. Not sure of the affiliation of someone who says "US Democrats"? Sheesh.

[MohRokTah]

40. Fuck the disrupting Green PArty assholes.

They are Trump supporters.

Every damned one of them!

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

73. And they must be arriving by the boatload, with invitations in hand,

to cause havoc inside the Dem Convention.

[George II]

79. Some have been disguised as "Democrats" all Spring.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

85. And I hear there's Nazis in the bathroom just below the stairs...

Or so John Lennon sang once.

[Goblinmonger]

126. No. They are Green Party supporters.

Big difference between Trump and the Green Party. But you know that.

[virtualobserver]

62. Dubya had SOME good ideas, apparently.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

26. You're siding with BushCo now in their words and actions.

Congratulations on the reveal.

[MohRokTah]

38. .

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

51. LOL. You're the one appluading first amendment zones...

Cute cut-n-paste.

[pnwmom]

108. When a progressive protests the MORE PROGRESSIVE BY FAR of the nominees, it's incredibly STUPID

or TROLLISH if not un-democratic.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

116. When, when, when...if, if, if...

All hurt feelings aside, by some, the Dem convention hasn't started, and the Dems aren't republicans.

[pnwmom]

121. So? Why are progressives planning fart-ins and other disruptive events at the more progressive

of the conventions? Where they had their voices heard and were able to get the platform changed in a way that their leader recognized was much stronger than before?

If the televised image we present to the nation is one of chaos and Hillary-hating, after a full week of Rethug Hillary hating, then we're just handing her head to them on a silver platter.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

169. Has it happened yet, or is it just talk?

Besides are "fart-ins" covered under the first amendment?

[pnwmom]

181. Obviously it hasn't happened yet because the convention hasn't happened yet. n/t

[7962]

160. It wouldnt be Dems, it would be someone sneaking in to do it.

I doubt theres going to be any actual disruption at the convention by actual democrats

[Shankapotomus]

198. Exactly

They were such the "experts" and decided they were going to school everyone on DU on how to choose and elect a democratic candidate.

Now I just wish they'd drink a big cup of stfu.

[bvf]

223. This just in: You don't get to decide who's a Democrat.

[Avalon Sparks]

239. + 1000

[tallahasseedem]

6. +1

I plan to head over there a couple of nights next week. It will be interesting to see whats going on!

[bravenak]

13. Please lets us know what you see next week

[tallahasseedem]

15. Will do!

[bravenak]

16. Thank you. And have fun too!

[yeoman6987]

7. There will be some. Free speech is why

That doesn't mean it has to be disruptive.

[bravenak]

14. No. I hope anybody who protests is BANNED from future party activities

[yeoman6987]

22. You mean speakers and protesters inside?

I agree. Outside? Hard to do.

[bravenak]

24. Of course inside. They can chant all they want outside.

[yeoman6987]

27. Lol. Ok. I agree a million percent with you.

[larkrake]

87. pretty soon it will be a party of one with that attitude

[bravenak]

92. Not bloody likely since most democrats are not interested in helping Trump win.

[MFM008]

18. What bravenak said

x1000

[Cha]

28. Mahalo, brave!

[bravenak]

33. Hey!!

[Cha]

45. Hey you!

[TNNurse]

32. We need to be seen as together

Organized, competent and sincere.

We cannot afford to look like the bizarre GOP and we cannot afford to lose this election. NOTHING is more important right now. We can deal with issues later.

[bravenak]

35. Thank you thank you thank you

I did not get everything I wanted either but Trump is the enemy. We have got to stop this nutjob first and foremost.

[larkrake]

88. dealing with issues later is why we are crashing

[mountain grammy]

50. I don't want to see any booing or any of the nonsense we've just witnessed

but the convention should be lively, with the usual demonstrations for beloved candidates. Hillary's been though a few of these. She can take whatever and smile through it all. Let's celebrate that all our candidates are qualified with real ideas and understanding of our government, even if we occasionally, but respectfully, differ.

[okasha]

96. I think you.and I both remember some of those lively conventions.

I'm perfectly okay with demonstrations in the names of admired Democrats. Gods know we have more to admire than the R's do.

I'm not okay with demonstrations against any Democrat, disruption of speakers, attempts to revive the primary, tantrums from anyone for any reason. We need to come out of this convention unified and ready to fight like hell.

[mountain grammy]

113. I remember 1960

my mom was a diehard Stevenson supporter, but, with Eleanor Roosevelt's endorsement, she began to warm to JFK. After Kennedy's acceptance speech, she was hooked.

Enjoy: http://www.jfklibrary.org/Asset-Viewer/AS08q5oYz0SFUZg9uOi4iw.aspx

[okasha]

173. My one personal memory of Stevenson

was asking my parents who he was because we always got Christmas cards from him.

My folks never really warmed to Kennedy, but preferred him to the alternatives.

[ancianita]

59. Did you see that Rev. Burns speech?? Some high raving red, white and blue energy!

[bravenak]

63. Nucking futz

That guy was about to give me palpitations

[NCTraveler]

64. Throw it down!!!!

[63splitwindow]

68. K & R

[okieinpain]

69. Lol. N/t.

[George II]

72. Thanks for the warning.....

....

[bravenak]

75. You're welcome!

I'll be saying it very soon.

[larkrake]

80. I dont agree- they are democrats after all

and are entitled to a voice

[bravenak]

91. Entitled? No. Many are not democrats. I specified Greens, Trump fans and disruptors

And disruptors are not entitled to anything besides removal from out venue and banning from further party activities. Protesters can protest outside.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

130. On this paper I have the names of 50 communists...

Too funny.

[bravenak]

131. Hysterical

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

137. More like hysteria...

[bravenak]

139. Protests tend to end up that way

Pandemonium. Glad we won't have to have that shit at our convention.

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

144. Thanks for the conjecture.

[bravenak]

145. De nada

[Lil Missy]

195. no, they are not Democrats. Those there to disrupt are helping Trump and should b e banned.

[jtuck004]

82. " It is a private party for Demorats and whomever" <- ROFL - Tell it... n/t

[The Second Stone]

90. Relax. Clinton's got this.

It's going to be fine.

[TNNurse]

97. Damn, I hope you are right.

However GWB got to the White House twice. Nothing is certain.

[The Second Stone]

102. I didn't mean stop working to register and get out the vote

I meant stop being so uptight! We are going to win and take the Senate and maybe the House. Clinton and Trump will do everything they can to make the choice really clear.

Seriously, could Clinton have picked an opponent more unelectable and off putting to the voters than Donald J. Trump. And Trump isn't just coasting on his achievements. Every day he is out there reminding everyone what a lousy president he would be. Every day he tops himself in his lack of qualifications and stupid statements. It's hard work. If he's willing to do his part, why aren't we?

[CobaltBlue]

98. bravenak

The following statement, from you, is incorrect:

You don't have the right to protest our convention.

You are incorrect with your understanding of one's right to protest (peaceful assembly; in public; the First Amendment thingie).



The rest is understood.

[bravenak]

103. Excuse me but you are entirely wrong

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.[1]

The DNC is not the congress nor is it the government. The first amendment deals with what role the GOVERNMENT plays in respecting the rights of it's citizens. It is not the government prohibiting free speech in any way. It is a political party deciding how to hold its events.

[Warren Stupidity]

232. lol. You are advocating that the government suppress the right of the people to peaceably assemble.

It doesn't matter what the assembly is protesting.

[Politicub]

99. We will show America true unity

It will be a stark contrast. Two completely different visions for America.

[bravenak]

105. That's what we want. Show them we wre not insane like these people

[RoccoR5955]

100. So the First Amendment does not apply

to the Democratic Convention? How American of you!

[bravenak]

101. It doesn't

[pnwmom]

106. Thank you for laying it out so clearly, bravenak. Glad you are still with us!

[bravenak]

107. Hey! Glad they know how I feel now.

[Warren DeMontague]

109. I predict our convention will stand in stark contrast to this clusterfuck in Cleveland.

I don't think most people in our party want to fight with other people in our party.

A few maybe still do, but most of us? No.

[awoke_in_2003]

110. K&R. nt

[SunSeeker]

112. K & R

[AlbertCat]

114. Jesus on cracker!

Another "fuck anyone who doesn't do what I want" post.


Telling people what to do has no fucking place here.... or at the convention.

This getting into people's personal shit (like their vote) is way too GOP authoritarian.

[bravenak]

123. Why would I care who they vote for? I just don't want non democrats fucking up our party.

[AlbertCat]

189. Why would I care who they vote for?

Disingenuous much?

"You don't have the right to protest our convention."
"I think that anybody who tries to disrupt our party is not a true member of our party..."

This isn't the Soviet Union, y'know....

These notions are completely un-American and un-Democratic.

[bravenak]

190. Really. I said nothing in there even refferring to wanting to tell them who to vote for.

[chknltl]

146. Perhaps it is the new 'streamlined' DU nt

[DemonGoddess]

117. K&R!

The convention is supposed to be a CELEBRATION of our party and nominee. Shit stirrers can go elsewhere.

[Goblinmonger]

124. Do you like the protesters at the RNC?

Free speech is free speech. It's actually more noble to support speech you don't agree with.

Or you could just be authoritarian. Whatever floats your boat, I guess.

[bravenak]

125. Dont care about protesters at the rnc

They can protest. They are protesting outside. Would I join them? Fuck no, i stay away from gatherings of gun loving nutjobs.

[PachobelsCannon]

127. Why do people these days feel the need to resort to such profane and rude language?

It doesn't help get you respect that for sure. People should just be civilized at the convention and in online forums. That is what being classy is about.

[G_j]

128. agreed.. nt

[bravenak]

129. Whatever

[ismnotwasm]

133. I don't fuckin know, man

But what the hell. YOLO.

[bravenak]

135. Yeah!!!

[ismnotwasm]

136. ..

[bravenak]

141. I think I'm not acting lik a lady

[ismnotwasm]

168. Me either

I gotta fuckin work on that.

[PachobelsCannon]

175. All the childishness isn't going to win over any serious converts.

Are you trying to hurt the image of the Democratic Party? Because if thats your intention, it's working.

[ismnotwasm]

193. Are you a Democrat?

What converts?

I just listened to one of the most horridly expressed acceptance speeches it has been my misfortune to hear, by Donald Trump.

Any one that needs, or rather wants to be "converted" won't be deterred by my language.

[zonkers]

230. Because Bernie posters are not around for OP to dump on. So OP, must pick a fight w/air. Air is

winning.

[MichiganVote]

132. +1

[Stellar]

142. +1

[Beantighe]

150. I'm thinking the Donald's pre-speech snack

was Xanax. Too early to tell. We shall see.

[bravenak]

153. I bet he mixed in some hate meth, dont trip

[Beantighe]

161. Most likely

...and apologies - I posted this to the wrong thread.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

151. Did you catch Alex Jones disrupting the Young Turks?

The entire media is going to be disrupting the Democratic Convention.

The same media that is now trying to present Trump as a viable option.

[bravenak]

156. I know. Best if we try to keep it as positive as possible

No need to fuck ourselves by letting it be a free for all.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

163. Hillary needs to adopt a progressive platform and all will be fine.

[bravenak]

167. She already did

[Spitfire of ATJ]

171. So don't worry....

It was never about Bernie.

He even said so.

It was about the issues.

[bravenak]

172. This op has nothing to do with him

It is my fuck you to future disruptors

[Spitfire of ATJ]

176. Like I say, the main disrupter is going to be the media.

[bravenak]

186. The primary is fucking over though

[G_j]

187. you might have more credibility

if that weren't the case.

[bravenak]

188. That's nice, let's not discuss me, thanks

[Gothmog]

155. Agreed

[bigwillq]

157. Folks should protest whatever and wherever they want.

I don't have any issue with it. Whether it's in Cleveland, Philly, or anywhere else in this great, free country, or anywhere else in the world. Folks should stand up for what they believe in, even if you or I disagree with it.

[bravenak]

158. They can do it outside

[annavictorious]

170. Occupy the DNC

had planned a march in Hillary's home town of Chappaqua this Sunday.

The point is to embarrass her. Many of these people are no better than Comey.

[bravenak]

174. Yep

Trying to make us lose so they can win later or help repubs. No thanks

[okasha]

179. Kind of like the Klan march in Skokie.

The had the right, but they didn't make any friends.

[ericson00]

192. Comey was probably just trying to protect his own physical self;

if he looked too soft on Hillary, he'd probably get more death threats than he's already getting (he probably thought he was avoiding it altogether); Occupy DNC are just a bunch of communists.

[annavictorious]

182. So many of the protesters

will be hiding behind ideals, but people by and large know it's just about being spoilers.

Where were they in Cleveland where they could have done the Democrats some good? Where was Occupy the GOP?

[kerry-is-my-prez]

194. Yes, they didn't show up in Cleveland. They would rather screw up the Dem Convention. It tells

you something about these people and their mindsets.

[DemonGoddess]

200. Yep. Same thing I'd like to know. n/t

[bravenak]

203. Me too

[chascarrillo]

183. I know! A bunch of superpredators, am I right?

[bravenak]

184. Are they? What you know about superpredators and the hood life?

[Shankapotomus]

196. I'm through tolerating Hate-On-Hillary "Democrats"

Before anyone even announced they were running, many of those who favored other democrats over Hillary on DU were assuring everyone that they would vote Hillary if she got the nomination and all would be well.

Now it's gotten to the point where it's handicapping her campaign they are so opposed to voting for her.

Never again will I endorse a weaker candidate while their supporters trash the leading democrat at the expense of losing to Republicans.

Even their own candidate has endorsed Hillary and many of these knuckleheads are still ready to sabotage a Democratic win. Stupid.

I can't imagine in how much a better position Hillary would be to defeat Trump if she didn't have these fair-weather "democrats" biting at her heels as if she were Satan himself.

They thought they knew better than everyone else about politics but they just look dumb.

[bravenak]

197. +1

[DemonGoddess]

202. It didn't help that she was given

the Lucifer comparison by both sides you know, the far left and the far right.

Thing is, either you're a Democrat and you vote blue, or you're NOT a Democrat. Totally agree with you on not wanting to tolerate anymore of this stupidity.

[Shankapotomus]

210. One thing I confirmed from all this is

It's unadvisable to back purity when purity doesn't have the overwhelming lead. Otherwise, you're just voting for a dream or a wish and you wind up weakening the favored candidate (pure or not) against the republican nominee.

You back your strongest candidate out of the gate fully--- warts and all--- to secure the easiest win over the Republicans. Then, if a purer candidate is favored in the next election, you throw all your weight behind them. Baby steps.

[Turin_C3PO]

224. They're a small minority.

85% of Bernie peeps are voting Clinton according to polls. I think they said that's about the same as 2012 and 2008.

[Avalon Sparks]

240. What poll?

Got a link?

[AtheistCrusader]

199. Let the purity tests begin!

[bravenak]

201. Ridiculous

[AtheistCrusader]

204. I get what you're saying.

I just don't appreciate the delivery. After a contentious primary like this, it's in poor taste.

[bravenak]

206. It be like that sometimes

I remember not liking the delivery of many things and being told that if it were 'true' or 'factual' it shouldn't matter how it is said.
I gave up caring about tone recently. No matter how nicely I say it there will always be folks telling me I said it wrong.

[nashville_brook]

205. decorum thy name is irony.

[bravenak]

207. Disruptors, infiltrators, and repubs and greens aint getting my decorum

They can have a side eye and a big ol FU

[nashville_brook]

208. oh, the joyless self-kicks.

[brewens]

209. If protesters are allowed to have their say, they then need to take yes for an answer,

make their point and then leave. Rather than make it all about them disrupting things. I think we can all remember an event last year where that is what happened.

[BlueMTexpat]

211. This can't be repeated enough.

Anybody helping Trump win is a utter piece of shit.

I find it sad that I am STILL having to add people to my Ignore List on a Democratic website because of their not-so-thinly veiled "concerns" about our candidate or because they deliberately misinterpret what posters are saying and then continue to harangue ad nauseam with their not-so-clever argumentation. I don't have to put up with that and so I won't.

I welcome all those who want to join us in the light. But those who can't resist belittling our candidate or other Dems or are haranguing longtime good Dems here simply for the purpose of disruption need to ask themselves why they are doing what they are doing.

They may even be lying to themselves.

[bravenak]

212. I think that's spot on

They are lying to themselves.

[BlueMTexpat]

213. I added three new ones

from this thread alone. They're still among us, unfortunately. !

[bravenak]

214. These threads are perfect for beefing up our lists so we can not hear that crap

I honestly have no idea why they want to be around us evil people

[BlueMTexpat]

216. Secretly they envy us!

Very secretly.

[bravenak]

217. I believe that!

[cliffordu]

215. Well, thanks for weighing in.

Really. Free speech is important.

[Turin_C3PO]

218. We need

A strong, unified Party at the convention. I have no problem at all with peaceful protest outside. Hell, I don't mind if there is a little liveliness inside the convention hall. As long as it focuses on issues and isn't disruptive or anti-Hillary.

[bravenak]

219. I agree. I just cant take anymore bullshit

The RNC convention just wore me out. I want positive stuff.

[Turin_C3PO]

220. Hell yeah, I agree.

So much hate and anger, those Repubs must have off the charts hypertension. I'm glad we're a party based on civil rights and economic fairness. You know, having an actual POSITIVE message.

[bravenak]

221. Oh yes!

I thought Trump was going to have a stroke whipping up the crowd

[Turin_C3PO]

222. Oh absolutely

Those fools better hope Obamacare doesn't get repealed! Lol

[bvf]

225. "No. You don't have the right to protest our convention."

Now there's a chuckle for you.

[bravenak]

226. It's true. Protests can happen outside

[bvf]

228. Then you should take more care with your posts

because now you're just contradicting yourself. It might help to give them a once-over before committing them, but heck, look who I'm talking to.

[Jamaal510]

227. I'm eager to see if

Nick Cannon will try to pull that "don't vote" and "both parties don't do anything for Black people" stuff at our convention like he did earlier this week in Cleveland. His intentions are good, but he's a fool for that and obviously doesn't pay much attention to politics.

[runaway hero]

236. He's entitled to say as such.

Maybe both parties need to step up more towards us.

[Jamaal510]

237. I didn't say he

wasn't entitled; he just sounds ridiculous by discouraging Black people from voting and by saying that neither party has done anything for us when evidence states otherwise. For starters, Black unemployment has lowered under the current administration versus its Republican-led predecessor, Democrats have addressed gun violence, police brutality, and voting rights (which are all issues affecting the Black community), and there are less of us uninsured under this administration in contrast to previous years. Sitting out elections would be counterproductive.

[Walk away]

229. Some whacky fringe element action might get us some free press....

If a few million more people tune in to catch a bunch of people farting....well I say "Hooray!"

As long as the protests are handled well, it might drive some interest in the event.