Reality is setting in on both sides

[HerbChestnut]

Clinton/Kaine is the Dem ticket

Bernie supporters want none of it

There will be more to come from this convention...

[CrowCityDem]

1. And by doing anything that helps Trump's odds, they prove they aren't progressives.

All they care about are themselves, and getting their way.

[CrowCityDem]

10. "The left" is with her. It's a few pissy brats who aren't.

[StraightRazor]

34. Sadly, the Left has no choice but to vote for her...

in order to beat Trump.

The Left will vote for her, but will never be for her - big difference.

[CrowCityDem]

37. "The left" is more than Bernie's voters. Don't be confused.

[CrowCityDem]

16. And look at yourself, asking a woman to step aside because of a bunch of children whining.

Sexism? Naw, that neeeeever crossed anyone's mind.

[HerbChestnut]

18. Oh, how I've missed the sexism charge

Always gotta throw that one in there, right?

[CrowCityDem]

20. Rather than chastizing the disrespectful, you went to Hillary having to walk away from what she won.

What else would you call that kind of utter crap?

[Maru Kitteh]

30. Well, if the jockstrap fits . . . .

[Codeine]

27. Oh good lord. nt

[timlot]

35. The Left? I don't know who these folks are.

Certainly not the Obama coalition that won the last two elections. All I see is a bunch anger young white people.

[workinclasszero]

40. Bingo

You aren't the only one that has seen this white privilege movement for what it is!

[HerbChestnut]

5. Adolescents, eh?

And they're not booing Bernie. That's media spin. I watched that address, and it's clear they're booing Hillary/Kaine.

[csziggy]

49. They booed Bernie at his meeting with them yesterday

[glennward]

28. "intellectual adolescents" lol. Nice discription. nt

[NurseJackie]

4. That subset of individuals need to grow up. And to think ...

... they actually wonder why it is that they are held in such contempt, so frequently ridiculed, and seldom taken very seriously.

Go figure.

[Godhumor]

8. Then they're not actually Bernie supporters or Democrats

More of Bernie's desires are included in this year's platform than any other platform in the Democratic Party history. If they can't recognize how much more they gain by Clinton winning in November, then they have no fucking clue what Bernie was actually fighting for.

[Tatiana]

11. Exactly! They aren't Bernie supporters. n/t

[serbbral]

9. There is only one reality

A President Trump or President Clinton.

[Orsino]

12. And some of us are panicked because our convention is noisy.

This what it's supposed to look like, folks. Delegates come to cheer on their own and maybe boo the opposition. We just forget this in the years when there is one pre-anointed candidate.

By the end, we will be united. This is hardly 1968.

[Hortensis]

14. So true! Politics is supposed to be passionate.

People are supposed to care. Would we really like the silence and apathy of 2014 again?

[Orsino]

24. (And passion sometimes means acting like dumbasses.)

We are about to have a great nominee who will lead, and we will go out and win.

[Hortensis]

13. All people at the Democratic convention are going to vote Democrat.

That really needs to be enough.

The Democratic Party's problem isn't these passionately engaged supporters, it's all the Democrats who may not bother to vote because they're NOT engaged.

[HerbChestnut]

15. You sure they'll all vote Dem

You really sure? Because what I just saw today makes me think otherwise.

[Hortensis]

21. Let's see, shall we? I see a bunch of people come

to eagerly engage in the process and be heard.

The noisy engagement at our convention is very different from the malice and hate so constantly demonstrated against us at the Republican convention.

[auntpurl]

31. His delegates are chanting LOCK HER UP at delegate breakfasts.

How is that different from the malice and hate at the RNC?

https://twitter.com/DaveMontero/status/757577543033753600

[Hortensis]

33. Whoops. Okay I hadn't heard that yet.

His delegates? What proportion?

I still stand with all the Bernie supporters who have decided to vote for Clinton and Kaine and won't insult them by nastily insinuating that THESE people represent them.

[auntpurl]

36. His delegates booed Nancy Pelosi and Barbara Lee this morning for mentioning Hillary.

His delegates chanted LOCK HER UP in several meetings.

His delegates hounded DWS off the stage (yes, it was stupid for her to get ONstage, but still).

His delegates booed at EVERY MENTION of Hillary's name in Bernie's speech and would not let him continue because they were screaming.

I mean obviously, #notalldelegates, and I CANNOT TELL YOU how much I appreciate Bernie supporters who can see the actual life and death f*cking DANGER posed by Donald Trump and who will vote for her and not DESTROY our convention. But the vocal minority are helping Trump, and they are doing it in EXACTLY the same way the Republicans did. By expressing rage and hate for Hillary Clinton.

[Hortensis]

38. Yes. The strong similarities between the far left

and the tea party/trumpsters, well known to psychologists, are obviously on full display. Despicable people.

[Maru Kitteh]

41. Indeed & the hateful disruptors should be ejected from our convention. They're not Bernie supporters

They're not Democrats and they shouldn't BE at our convention.

The REAL Bernie supporters and Democrats should be allowed to stay, welcomed and celebrated! The hateful jack-offs with lips frothing with hate for our nominee should be ejected, immediately.

[Hortensis]

42. Unfortunately...what would it take to eject delegates?

The ones Bernie couldn't control when speaking elsewhere won't be in the convention hall, at least.

[geek tragedy]

17. the people booing Bernie Sanders because he trashed Donald Trump will not be voting

for Clinton, nor are they Democrats.

They belong to the Crazy People party, and they merely impersonated Democrats for the purpose of trashing our convention and helping Trump win.

They belong at the fart-in, not the convention.

They are the enemy, and they were allowed inside the gates.

[DemonGoddess]

19. ^^^This!!!

[Hortensis]

22. Agree so often with you, GT, but not this time.

When people tell you they are angry at the party but are going to vote Democrat anyway, imo both courtesy and common sense suggest they should be believed.

[geek tragedy]

23. They booed Bernie Sanders! For criticizing Donald Trump!

They aren't Democrats, they're Green Party trolls who infiltrated our party by getting themselves named delegates.

Show them the door.

We need closed primaries to keep these scumbags out. They're not going to vote for our nominee in the general election, so they should absolutely be barred from voting in our primary.

[Hortensis]

25. Agree on closed primaries. But listen

to what most are cheering. Sure, there are some hostile rabble come to disrupt. What did we expect? Bernie set out to pad his support by drawing them in, so no surprise, but they are not the majority. Unfortunate that he was unable to inspire his followers into drowning the others out.

[geek tragedy]

26. I'm talking about the hostiles, not all Sanders supporters.

The majority of Sanders supporters wouldn't boo him.

But the assholes who did are not on our side, they have never been on our side, and they will never be on our side.

Green Tea is still Tea.

[Hortensis]

44. Yes. But we don't HAVE to catch their toxic fever

and throw capital letters and exclamation points also, do we?

Would people dropping by this forum be able to pick out the difference between Hillary's liberals and these others? I really wish they could.

[tallahasseedem]

39. +1

[auntpurl]

29. Uh, they were just interviewing Bernie delegates on MSNBC who said

they would NEVER vote for Hillary. Said she should be in prison.

They're not passionately engaged, they're there for a hatefest. As it stands now, our nominee will be booed from the minute she gets onstage until the minute she's hounded off. America will see a Democratic party who HATES their nominee. We could lose this election. I didn't think that until today.

[Hortensis]

45. I'm not talking about them. I'd love to see them in jail,

come down with Norovirus, be ejected.

I'm talking about those of Bernie's supporters who are voting Democrat, even if they aren't thrilled. They're there too.

[pnwmom]

48. I think MSNBC is doing its best to foment dissent and controversy, and the people they chose

to highlight are not representative.

[stopbush]

32. Fortunately, the D Party doesn't rely on support from these

rabid anti-Hillary types to win elections.

Ger some perspective - they really are a very small minority of voters.

[ismnotwasm]

43. What "sides"?

[eastwestdem]

46. I'm just hoping that today is the last time we will ever see Sanders on a national stage.

His divisiveness needs to return to the back burner.

[LongtimeAZDem]

47. No, Busters want none of it. Pro-Sanders Democrats are with Clinton and Kaine. (nt)