2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumLet's be clear...Bernie was not "booed." The shouts were "We want Bernie"
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Whatever you think of the behavior of the Bernie delegates, at least be honest about what happened. They were shouting support for him. The booing was for someone else.
Watch from about 18:30. The unified shouts of We Want Bernie were loud and direct

we can do it
(12,870 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)If not, watch it, not just the snippets.
we can do it
(12,870 posts)Grow up this is the real world.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I'm with Bernie in this -- including what he is trying to do to defeat Trump.
we can do it
(12,870 posts)It does apply to the spoiled brats shouting over him and booing and holding the not Hillary signs.
Bernie said this is the real world.
CrowCityDem
(2,348 posts)Maru Kitteh
(29,995 posts)So YES he was booed.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)But also, he couldn't control them. That's a shame.
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I suspect that the booing could have turned against him if he kept saying things they didn't want to hear from him. Hopefully that will not happen tonight, when he reportedly intends to lay out the case for Hillary and increase unity.
Didn't know that about Obama. I always remember him as out-calming everyone.
TeamPooka
(25,577 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Boos are gone with the moment.
Maru Kitteh
(29,995 posts)And he did not tell them to stop. It was weak.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)He could have them all back with him if he'd tell them what they want to hear, only he's not going to do that. Reportedly he will be making the case for her tonight. I plan to do an Obama watching coolly and analytically from my couch.
Those who don't like it will be booing tonight. Four days from now they'll be home examining their behavior under the spotlights of family, friends, coworkers. Some will be ashamed, some not.
105 days to November 8.
Maru Kitteh
(29,995 posts)I do wish he had not strung things along the way he did, as I think his prolonged two-step dance away from the primary allowed some of this animus to fester for too long.
The fact is, most Bernie supporters IRL are now on board with our nominee and the Dem ticket. I believe by the end of this convention and certainly by November, we will see a strong, unified voice of support for HRC/Kaine; and a resounding rebuke of those disruptive and destructive elements opposing Democrats and thereby assisting Putin's boy Trump.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)got all stirred up over the primary. They and liberals may both be on the "left," but they are a very different kind of people--as we see. They are the incendiary elements keeping others aflame. Liberals tend to be relatively open-minded, cooperative and inclusive. These people are anything but, and social scientists describe their behavior as "extremist" for very good reasons.
glowing
(12,233 posts)Lol. The expression "herding cats" comes to mind. Delegates who spend money and time going to all the official functions thru the whole process are typically quite loyal to their candidate. There's what, 300 difference in delegate totals without the supers. And it seems like we have an actual split in the party that's always been festering, but was highlighted to an extreme, especially since the e-mail dump.
Let's just see how it all shakes out by the end of the convention. It may work itself out in a productive manner.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)and if not as unified as we'd like to present it, a big oh, well.
Notably, the whole country will see these people boo their own previous leader and our nominees, and that's not going to impress many with them.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)RonniePudding
(889 posts)What an embarrassing, delusional OP.
BeyondGeography
(40,415 posts)And, if you listen, many of them give every impression of despising Hillary far more than they do Trump.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)were not booing him personally. Just the opposite.
BeyondGeography
(40,415 posts)
Justice
(7,201 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... you're arguing from a position of weakness. I guess some people like to be contrary just for its own sake.
The fact that they "were not booing him personally" really shouldn't be an excuse for their juvenile and petulant behavior.
It's little wonder that people like that are seldom taken seriously and are often viewed with contempt.
redStateBlueHeart
(265 posts)"The Bad Seed" is a great movie
treestar
(82,383 posts)It is the convention that is to nominate HRC. We don't want her haters there booing her nomination.
drray23
(8,206 posts)At first they did boo at the mention of clinton/kaine and not directly at Bernie. However the rest of the speech degenerated into chaos with many in the room upset at Bernie himself.
madamesilverspurs
(16,219 posts)At other points it was chants of "We want Bernie", but when he said it was necessary to support Hillary, they absolutely booed.
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Armstead
(47,803 posts)Alex4Martinez
(3,157 posts)Nobody is booing Bernie, some are booing objects of some of his comments as would be expected when certain names are mentioned.
Peigan68
(137 posts)Justice
(7,201 posts)The booing was when he mentioned Clinton's name.
Response to Armstead (Original post)
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John Poet
(2,510 posts)It smells no better than what you're complaining about.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)They booed the person who replaced DWS as convention chair.
They're an angry mob.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Booing is booing. "We want Bernie" is not booing against him.
Maru Kitteh
(29,995 posts)Pure and simple.
msongs
(71,106 posts)auntpurl
(4,311 posts)The boos and yelling STARTED when he said they must get Hillary elected. They CONTINUED throughout the rest of his speech, PARTICULARLY when he was saying bad things about Trump. I watched the bloody thing, I know what happened.
sarae
(3,284 posts)WTF, that's telling...
Why are they even at the Dem convention?
obamanut2012
(28,411 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)what is wrong with these people? bunch of butthurt babies...
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)eastwestdem
(1,220 posts)obamanut2012
(28,411 posts)I was listening to it. They booed BERNIE -- he was the speaker.
merrily
(45,251 posts)
You have a LOT of patience.
obamanut2012
(28,411 posts)geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)If he's with Clinton, he's against them.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It doesn't matter that they said "we want Bernie." That doesn't cancel the booing. Bernie doesn't want Bernie, he wants Hillary. And for that, he got booed.
emulatorloo
(45,765 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Justice
(7,201 posts)B Calm
(28,762 posts)Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)They have anger, clearly. But it's not justified.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)annavictorious
(934 posts)It's such a shame that these people co-opted a Democratic candidate to help Trump get elected.
They better not boo Michelle tonight.
Native
(7,060 posts)Grassy Knoll
(10,118 posts)
Armstead
(47,803 posts)Watch from about 18:30. The unified shouts of We Want Bernie were loud and direct
Maru Kitteh
(29,995 posts)And it's SHAMEFUL that they are booing Representative Marcia Fudge now. Purity pony assholes, one and all.
The REAL Bernie supporters should stand up and tell all these malcontents and disruptors to go fuck themselves. The haters should be ejected from the convention.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Yes, there were tons of boo's. Why even try to deflect that there weren't.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)"WE want Bernie" repeated loudly is not booing him.
I don't care you if condone their response or not (which was an internal gathering more than a public event) but they were both expressing displeasure with Clinton and the DNC and also support for Bernie.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Watch from about 18:30. The unified shouts of We Want Bernie were loud and direct
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Ignoring them doesn't make them go away.
Blatant dishonesty is not a part of who you are yet you are knowingly being dishonest here.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)I am just trying to "correct the record" about the false claims that his supporters were booing him personally and rejecting him.
"We want Bernie" is not booing or rejection of him. They may be disagreeing with him, but later on it was clear they support him.
Lord Magus
(1,999 posts)They booed him for endorsing Hillary. Period.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You won't hear any boos at that point either.
This really isn't like you.
Additionally, I have seen many of his supporters call him a sellout for endorsing Clinton. Your argument isn't based in reality yet your posting history shows you are very centered. This simply isn't you.
Starry Messenger
(32,376 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)and you're okay with this?
glennward
(989 posts)Really sad.