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Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:10 AM Nov 2012

Karl Rove on Fox was ranting like...

a guy who was really, really worried about more than just the loss of an election. It was like a Mafia movie; Rove playing the weasel with a mouth far bigger than his ability to deliver what he's promised one of the families.

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Karl Rove on Fox was ranting like... (Original Post) Mutiny In Heaven Nov 2012 OP
And now everyone knows it union_maid Nov 2012 #1
Rove's credibility as a king maker was shredded last night and he knows it. nt. OldDem2012 Nov 2012 #2
Hardly Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #3
A test for what horsedoc Nov 2012 #7
To game the system Sherman A1 Nov 2012 #8
Sadly I think Sherm makes a very good point groundloop Nov 2012 #12
On the other side, Obama had faced years of unjust fire Mutiny In Heaven Nov 2012 #14
Rove is done. Phx_Dem Nov 2012 #4
It was like the best movie scene ever...I NEVER watch Fox but out of curiousity onecent Nov 2012 #5
Did her see her wandering around the studio MuttLikeMe Nov 2012 #11
I'll only be happy modrepub Nov 2012 #6
Rove knows that if the GOP keeps pissing on Latino voters NewJeffCT Nov 2012 #9
I would have voted for Obama anyway but calico1 Nov 2012 #15
That's the way it looked to me too SoFlaJet Nov 2012 #10
I actually thought this also. He behaved as if reflection Nov 2012 #13
But to Rove's Credit Andy Stanton Nov 2012 #16
I have to see this... ratzerman Nov 2012 #17

union_maid

(3,502 posts)
1. And now everyone knows it
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:14 AM
Nov 2012

It's got to be getting harder for him to convince anyone to ignore realilty and believe him when he claims he has his own math and can deliver. Wouldn't it be funny if it was his own side who finally put an end to him?

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
3. Hardly
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:18 AM
Nov 2012

Mr. Rove is simply doing theatrics at this point.

2012 was a test with the Citizens United Ruling for 2016 which they fully intend to win.

horsedoc

(81 posts)
7. A test for what
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:57 AM
Nov 2012

To see who can spend the most and still lose? Its not like they held anything back this election cycle. The change in voter demographics is what is dooming repugs

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
8. To game the system
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:02 AM
Nov 2012

to see where they can push and get away with it and where they cannot. How much the media will follow their line (given enough money tossed their way).

2012 was going to be near impossible from the start for them. 2016 after another 4 years of planning, obstruction and an open seat in the WH will be much less so.

groundloop

(11,521 posts)
12. Sadly I think Sherm makes a very good point
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:36 AM
Nov 2012

A flip-flopping corporate vulture shouldn't have finished within 2% of President Obama in the popular vote. Endless lies and limitless spending got rMoney far closer to the White House than he ever should have been. In 2016 who knows what will happen.

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
14. On the other side, Obama had faced years of unjust fire
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:44 AM
Nov 2012

been forced to work with a moribund economy, a congress that has been unprecedentedly obstructionist, a fact masked by spineless pundits eager to paint the scene as "business as usual", billions of dollars of money precision targeted to bring about his defeat and the usual human problem of impatience and ignorance.

He DESERVED to win by an enormous margin, but taking into account the obstacles, the fact that he's done it at all is a great thing.

Koch, Adelson & Rove had a perfect storm, but they still couldn't do it.

onecent

(6,096 posts)
5. It was like the best movie scene ever...I NEVER watch Fox but out of curiousity
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:29 AM
Nov 2012

went there as they called it for Obama. He was like a little kid that didn't get his candy and he was having A FIT AND FALLING IN IT. One lady moderator, don't know her name was shown by a tv camera walking, and walking, over wires, past small crowds of workers, around computers to a room where some men were together and she stuck a mic in one of their faces and asked them (not in these words)..."are you sure these are the numbers, blabbity"..
They looked VERY PROFESSIONAL and very sure of themselves for the job they had
done and the numbers they had come up with to project Obama..it was almost
too embarrassing to watch as Rove made her to it.

I didn't think Mitt was gonna concede last night. I was truly shocked...
I AM SOO HAPPY!!!!!!!!

modrepub

(3,502 posts)
6. I'll only be happy
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 08:38 AM
Nov 2012

when people like Rove are replaced by younger cheaper personnel and they to deliver sandwiches or pizza to make ends meet. This scenario happened to several family, friends and coworkers of mine.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
9. Rove knows that if the GOP keeps pissing on Latino voters
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:15 AM
Nov 2012

they're going to keep losing, and by bigger & bigger margins.

calico1

(8,391 posts)
15. I would have voted for Obama anyway but
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:48 AM
Nov 2012

anger at being talked about like I am a second class citizen, not American, all this thinly veiled racism, certainly fueled me. NOTHING could have kept me from voting, even if like that pregnant woman, I was giving birth while voting. LOL

I think a lot of Latinos felt the same way.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
10. That's the way it looked to me too
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:18 AM
Nov 2012

He looked like a guy who spent 2 billion Mob dollars with no return and he seemed SCARED

reflection

(6,286 posts)
13. I actually thought this also. He behaved as if
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:40 AM
Nov 2012

he was on the hook for a big loan or something. Waaaay too personally invested in the outcome.

Andy Stanton

(264 posts)
16. But to Rove's Credit
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:52 AM
Nov 2012

He didn't predict a Romney landslide like those buffoons George Will, Michael Barone, Dick Morris and Unskewed Polls, who have zero credibility at this point.

ratzerman

(10 posts)
17. I have to see this...
Wed Nov 7, 2012, 09:57 AM
Nov 2012

Anyone have a youtube link to this whole meltdown? I had to turn it off as soon as Rove started stammering like he had a gun pointed to his head.

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