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yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:34 AM Aug 2016

There are some on DU Calling for the banning

Of Thom Hartmann, The Young Turks, Mike Malloy because they are so called anti Hillary.
so, DU ITS YOUR CALL


145 votes, 7 passes | Time left: Unlimited
BAN THEM ALL!!!
6 (4%)
Just ban Mike Malloys videos
0 (0%)
ban THE YOUNG TURKS! VIDEOS
0 (0%)
BAN THOM HARTMANN VIDEOS
1 (1%)
I don't want any of them banned, and I will listen what they have to say...
70 (48%)
Who the holy fuck wants these guys banned?
8 (6%)
I am mad about this and stomping my feet
1 (1%)
Ban all RT videos
1 (1%)
This is just stupid... move along
58 (40%)
What Progressive Radio Host do you wanta ban??
0 (0%)
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There are some on DU Calling for the banning (Original Post) yuiyoshida Aug 2016 OP
Once again, no "I like pie" option (nt) LongtimeAZDem Aug 2016 #1
that's how I see it too Dem2 Aug 2016 #2
any pie you want... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #3
Never heard of 'em. nt LexVegas Aug 2016 #4
Really?? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #5
Are they like the Sane Progressive? nt LexVegas Aug 2016 #11
If you want to know their stance yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #13
Are they on Youtube....or Reddit? nt LexVegas Aug 2016 #22
Youtube absolutely. yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #26
Thom Hartmann is a member of DU since 2006 bananas Aug 2016 #137
Go over to Ring of Fire Progressive News Network womanofthehills Aug 2016 #179
I will say this. Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #212
These are the guys who criticized Baby Bush admin while DLCers were busy rubberstamping yurbud Aug 2016 #139
Yep. Sounds as if DU has lost its way... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #235
DU hasn't lost their way. This is a just a slightly worse than average election infection yurbud Aug 2016 #243
Sure ... Ban them all! ... why not? NurseJackie Aug 2016 #6
Or ... anything with that green RT (Russia Today) logo. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #9
I saw you slamming Cenk yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #12
Where are these great majorities clamoring for banning Cenk and Hartmann? emulatorloo Aug 2016 #18
here yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #24
Mountain out of a mole-hill, yoiyoshida emulatorloo Aug 2016 #35
Oh come on...you know there have been yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #39
Now you're complaining that people >>aren't alerting<< on Hartmann and Malloy vids? emulatorloo Aug 2016 #63
I like all of them but yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #69
I like them all too and have been listening to some of them for years womanofthehills Aug 2016 #181
Are you fucking serious mercuryblues Aug 2016 #237
Where does it say "great majorities" in the op? NWCorona Aug 2016 #62
It doesn't yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #73
You don't have to ban them Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #213
Sure, that's fine with me! Why not? :-P Let's do it! NurseJackie Aug 2016 #41
Okay so now on you see their videos yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #51
Uh...because they have a lot of valid things to say? Ken Burch Aug 2016 #245
Uh...if one's goal is to weaken our nominee, and if one is giddy over the idea of a Trump presidency NurseJackie Aug 2016 #246
Easier to ignore the agitators Blue_Adept Aug 2016 #7
They are dead serious...so I am calling them out yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #56
You haven't mercuryblues Aug 2016 #241
Let's trade, y'all want to ban Hartmann, we want to ban Brock. Let's talk turkey. VulgarPoet Aug 2016 #8
.... LexVegas Aug 2016 #23
When Brock has a show... Adrahil Aug 2016 #233
I just looked them up. DURHAM D Aug 2016 #10
Ana Kasparian doesn't look like a white male to me. jalan48 Aug 2016 #27
I love Ana yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #61
Nor does Laura Flanders or Abby Martin womanofthehills Aug 2016 #186
a "progressive network" that insults the name uhnope Aug 2016 #228
Cenk is Turkish nt nadine_mn Aug 2016 #70
He certainly is yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #74
If I'm not mistaken, DU's owners are white males. SMC22307 Aug 2016 #238
"Some on DU" = tiny loud minority on DU emulatorloo Aug 2016 #14
maybe so...all you have to do is read this to jump yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #16
Do you believe Cenk is above criticism? emulatorloo Aug 2016 #29
Sure Cenk should be criticized yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #36
"Some on DU" = tiny loud MINORITY on DU emulatorloo Aug 2016 #40
doesn't it bother you that some who yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #67
I'm actually surprised you're surprised Arazi Aug 2016 #149
I know there are a lot of new DUers yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #150
The 10 names who've voted to ban are not newbies Arazi Aug 2016 #152
I am betting you are correct yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #158
We are in campaign mode at DU.. the primaries are over.. Peacetrain Aug 2016 #15
So whats it going to be yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #17
You can't try and shout down the Democrats right now.. Peacetrain Aug 2016 #25
I agree completely but yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #28
Exactly right...said it better than me. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #214
I'm going to take a wild guess that those posters are asking sufrommich Aug 2016 #19
I agree with that Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #217
Russian propaganda metroins Aug 2016 #20
SO why aren't you alerting on RT VIDEOS... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #55
Great did you do my poll? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #58
I don't have enough time metroins Aug 2016 #147
you don't have enough time to alert? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #148
Gotta find them metroins Aug 2016 #151
look below yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #156
Yes. Lord Magus Aug 2016 #231
I'm not familiar with any of them. Kaleva Aug 2016 #21
Really? You been on DU for 15,000 postings and you yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #32
I've never watched any of their videos. Kaleva Aug 2016 #43
you are missing out yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #50
You're not missing anything. NurseJackie Aug 2016 #157
Go over to Ring of Fire and watch their videos - new ones every day womanofthehills Aug 2016 #187
my view advocating anything against hillary and democratic party beachbum bob Aug 2016 #31
So whats your call? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #33
They are bullshit artists making pro Trump arguments. Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #34
can not do it that way... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #46
They are not members. Only members can be banned for making Agnosticsherbet Aug 2016 #144
Nothing "Underground" about this place any more. yodermon Aug 2016 #37
Untrue of a majority of DU posters. emulatorloo Aug 2016 #44
Was it ever "Underground"? Didn't members overwhelmingly oppose the Iraq War? SMC22307 Aug 2016 #240
If they're violating the TOS, they should be treated like anyone else. wyldwolf Aug 2016 #38
Meh, I'll just trash their threads or use the Keyword Trash feature. NYC Liberal Aug 2016 #42
They are DU members? treestar Aug 2016 #45
They are video hosts... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #48
I've heard of them due to DU treestar Aug 2016 #104
some find video yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #107
MAlloy urges his listeners to not vote for Hillary. So does TYT. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #47
so whats your call? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #49
For starters, anybody posting a thread promoting MAlloy's show should be banned. MohRokTah Aug 2016 #66
I was Talking about banning videos yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #71
Actually, now that Hillary has won the nomination TYT is voting for her nadine_mn Aug 2016 #75
Hartmann is encouraging sbs supporters to vote for Hillary. NT Ilsa Aug 2016 #129
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #52
did you vote in my poll?? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Aug 2016 #64
If any of them try use DU to push their bullshit, hell yeah. PeaceNikki Aug 2016 #53
People post their videos yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #79
Oh, then I don't understand the question. PeaceNikki Aug 2016 #91
Meh, I ignore talking heads. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2016 #54
+1 Jamaal510 Aug 2016 #136
Do they violate the rules? MFM008 Aug 2016 #57
no we would not stand a chance yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #119
I'm a Hillary supporter now, and I was one in 2008 as well. lapucelle Aug 2016 #59
I agree yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #120
STRAW MAN nt BobbyDrake Aug 2016 #65
and yet here you are yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #80
Why bother? DFW Aug 2016 #68
I totally agree and yet there are some yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #81
There must be some nuance to all this DFW Aug 2016 #121
Thanks! yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #122
Do-itashimashite! DFW Aug 2016 #125
Thom is NOT anti-Hillary lillypaddle Aug 2016 #72
I K R?? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #82
Let's ban the INTERNET nolabels Aug 2016 #76
interesting but yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #84
But, but, but i only watch reruns on netflix, how else would one be able fall asleep? nolabels Aug 2016 #93
pssst. I know a website yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #96
Remind anybody of 1984? Unbelievable. George Eliot Aug 2016 #77
absolutely! yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #86
"newspeak" & privileged inner party - from Wiki George Eliot Aug 2016 #162
Not so much banning them but banning anything supporting the other side. LiberalFighter Aug 2016 #78
But some here say these guys are with yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #89
Who said anything about banning? betsuni Aug 2016 #83
it follows right? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #92
No, in that post there was no mention at all of banning anything. betsuni Aug 2016 #95
THEY THINK Cenk is anti Hillary yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #97
This is a site for Democrats. Clinton is the Democratic nominee. betsuni Aug 2016 #112
I do love that video but also I have not asked for any videos to be banned yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #114
The only person talking about banning in that thread is you. tammywammy Aug 2016 #224
now buy some... stonecutter357 Aug 2016 #85
Well, I personally can't stand TYT show DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #87
did you vote? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #99
yes I did DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #102
I agree yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #106
far too many of them DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #108
CT? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #109
conspiracy theory crap DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #111
aw yes thanks... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #113
Pretty slanted wording SirBrockington Aug 2016 #88
What is slanted... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #94
Wannabee hall monitors and wardens. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2016 #90
spot on yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #98
Yep. That's what DU has been reduced to... SMC22307 Aug 2016 #242
That was amusing: I just voted in this poll while serving on a jury for it. Ron Obvious Aug 2016 #100
how is this poll against ToS? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #101
I voted to keep Ron Obvious Aug 2016 #103
No, it's not our call. Orsino Aug 2016 #105
If people are upset with the videos yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #110
I have no idea who Mike Malloy is. KMOD Aug 2016 #115
amazing. yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #118
It explains a lot imo. nt Rex Aug 2016 #145
Exactly what does it explain Rex? KMOD Aug 2016 #155
I know two of the three. KMOD Aug 2016 #163
I am amazed too - they are all progressive voices who have been around for years womanofthehills Aug 2016 #190
There must be a lot here who are yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #191
How about a group or forum for them? Sugarcoated Aug 2016 #116
Whats wrong with the Video & Multimedia section yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #117
Hide what? Sugarcoated Aug 2016 #141
Glad you had a perfect option for me. nt. NCTraveler Aug 2016 #123
Already have the rules in place for this. Don't need new ones. Amimnoch Aug 2016 #124
common sense yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #128
You beat me to it. nt stevenleser Aug 2016 #134
Ban? Where the hell would I get my comedic relief from? MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #126
The videos can certainly be yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #131
THOM HARTMANN HAS CONSISTENTLY CALLED ON SBS SUPPORTERS TO SUPPORT HILLARY IN THE GE. Ilsa Aug 2016 #127
In fact, before the primaries were over he OldHippieChick Aug 2016 #143
Thank you for backing mre up and augmenting Ilsa Aug 2016 #146
Pundits get a little crazy sometimes Bradical79 Aug 2016 #130
and yet we have all seen the yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #132
Yeah Bradical79 Aug 2016 #133
some people need them. yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #135
anyone calling for a ban doesn't seem to understand the "discussion" part of a discussion board yurbud Aug 2016 #138
I had a post hidden for repeating a Facebook post by Reich and an NYT article Armstead Aug 2016 #140
agreed G_j Aug 2016 #142
Quelle surprise. nt riderinthestorm Aug 2016 #153
Just NO... happydaze Aug 2016 #154
He would agree... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #159
At least 2 of them that I listen to are saying Clinton happydaze Aug 2016 #160
I cannot STAND Cenk with his fake self bravenak Aug 2016 #161
He says Hillary's racism is worse than Trump's? Then ban him. He's promoting Trump. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #166
Exactly. bravenak Aug 2016 #167
Everyone has their own alert button yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #173
The problem is having to sit through watching the videos. It's easy with a written post pnwmom Aug 2016 #183
I have been told on DU that if a yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #185
Because without knowing what was in a Thom Hartmann video, I couldn't know whether pnwmom Aug 2016 #192
if you fully believe that a video blogger is as bad as yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #193
I never said that. n/t pnwmom Aug 2016 #194
so you think that sometimes their video bloggs are yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #195
I haven't watched any of their videos since the primaries, and even then I watched very few. pnwmom Aug 2016 #196
but now knowing this information about yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #197
I'm not going to alert on videos I haven't listened to unless I have some other reason pnwmom Aug 2016 #198
Thom annoyed me during the primary Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #234
Than I guess you will have to start yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #170
I will alert if he says crazy stuff like Hillary is worse than Trump bravenak Aug 2016 #172
why are you putting an "if" on it? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #174
Honestly? You have actually convinced me to alert all of them. Sound logic is sound. bravenak Aug 2016 #175
You alert often yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #176
And is that a problem? bravenak Aug 2016 #177
everyone is given an alert button yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #178
Good. The system is much better now. bravenak Aug 2016 #180
Alert on specific material that is anti-Hillary. pnwmom Aug 2016 #164
I agree Andy823 Aug 2016 #168
That's why everyone has their own yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #171
Where's the option for I don't give a fuck? BainsBane Aug 2016 #165
oh that's simple ... yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #169
Really? Because the only reason DU exists? BainsBane Aug 2016 #182
They are to some respected bloggers who people yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #184
No one who cares about progressive politics should be Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #216
You wouldn't alert on the video? yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #220
What video ? nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #225
I don't think this is stupid tawadi Aug 2016 #188
The TOS say differently. yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #189
To be fair to TYT anamnua Aug 2016 #199
I didn't know Ana yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #200
She didn't. I just invented it! anamnua Aug 2016 #219
maybe yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #221
Mike Malloy is an extremely anti Hillary liberalnarb Aug 2016 #201
Wait so because he is posted yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #202
What? liberalnarb Aug 2016 #203
okay so you will be yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #205
Uh, no. I'll alert only on vids that break the tos. liberalnarb Aug 2016 #206
good! yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #207
No one is saying that. liberalnarb Aug 2016 #209
Didn't Hartmann endorse Hillary? RandySF Aug 2016 #204
Yes. HarmonyRockets Aug 2016 #208
If they bash Democrats, or advocate not voting for them - sure. baldguy Aug 2016 #210
When does wearing pink underwear become a crime? Lottie5 Aug 2016 #211
didn't I read some where on DU that yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #222
None of those should be banned (nt) bigwillq Aug 2016 #215
It would seem yuiyoshida Aug 2016 #218
Interesting Poll chknltl Aug 2016 #223
Ugh. People are still falling for this strawman bullshit? Squinch Aug 2016 #226
Strawman bullshit remains quite popular for some reason. betsuni Aug 2016 #229
Anyone calling for any of them to be banned malaise Aug 2016 #227
It must be nice to surround yourself with voices who always agree with you... brooklynite Aug 2016 #244
This is a riot! I went and looked at the thread you referenced in post 24 where people Squinch Aug 2016 #230
This is not AT ALL surprising. betsuni Aug 2016 #232
OMG!! SERIOUSLY?? THAT'S A RIOT!! :-D NurseJackie Aug 2016 #236
Heh. "DU ITS YOUR CALL" Heh heh heh. betsuni Aug 2016 #239

bananas

(27,509 posts)
137. Thom Hartmann is a member of DU since 2006
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 02:56 PM
Aug 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=profile&uid=197528

About thomhartmann
Statistics and Information
Account status: Active
Member since: Mon Nov 6, 2006, 05:54 PM
Number of posts: 3,215
Number of posts, last 90 days: 204
Favorite forum: Video & Multimedia , 204 posts in the last 90 days (100% of total posts)
Favorite group: NA
Last post: Mon Aug 1, 2016, 08:21 AM

womanofthehills

(9,010 posts)
179. Go over to Ring of Fire Progressive News Network
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:41 PM
Aug 2016
http://trofire.com/

Many of them used to be on Air America radio. I have listened to them for yrs. Thom Hartman comes in on our local station here in NM.

Demsrule86

(69,669 posts)
212. I will say this.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:46 AM
Aug 2016

A few times, I have turned on my paid radio and heard Jill Stien's nasty self on the progressive channel on Sirius... she was on Thom Harmen once and a couple of times on Make it Plain. I turn it off immediately... or listen to CNN which has not been bad this year at least when I listened. I a going to cancel my subscription if they keep it up. I am very disappointed in Thom...and was a big fan before the primary.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
139. These are the guys who criticized Baby Bush admin while DLCers were busy rubberstamping
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:12 PM
Aug 2016

his crimes.

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
243. DU hasn't lost their way. This is a just a slightly worse than average election infection
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:48 PM
Aug 2016

of shills and trolls.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
12. I saw you slamming Cenk
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:45 AM
Aug 2016

Are you sure you think this is funny? All it takes is for people to start alerting on their videos and get enough votes, their videos will never be posted again.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
24. here
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
Aug 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512331623

And I have seen the others mentioned elsewhere. Mike Malloy's tirade over Hillary, Thom Hartmann's commentary. I want to truly know, whose videos should be eliminated for their
anti-Hillary stance.

emulatorloo

(45,258 posts)
35. Mountain out of a mole-hill, yoiyoshida
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

Responded down thread I don't agree with the criticism in that thread.

One thread does not = massive support here for banning Cenk.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
39. Oh come on...you know there have been
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Aug 2016

people yelling and screaming about all of the above listed, and so if they are so bad, why aren't they alerting to have the videos removed. One was, Mike Malloy talkin about Hillary. THom Hartmann beinG on RT.

emulatorloo

(45,258 posts)
63. Now you're complaining that people >>aren't alerting<< on Hartmann and Malloy vids?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:26 AM
Aug 2016

You began thread claiming DU'ers want to ban Malloy and Hartmann.

Now you are mad because people who have criticized Malloy and Hartmann aren't alerting and trying to get their videos removed.

Understand your passion, but you are making contradictory statements.

'Banning Thom videos bad'. 'Not alerting on Thom videos bad'

---

Now let me give you a concrete example re the RT thing. I like Thom. A lot. I don't like that he's chosen to be on RT. I think it hurts his credibility. I would prefer he distribute on YouTube, as I believe TYT does. I have said so in the threads his interns post here. Giving suggestions about finding other ways to produce the shows and still maintain high production values. Long winded way to say things are not black and white.




yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
69. I like all of them but
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:30 AM
Aug 2016

apparently we have some extremists on here who do want them banned. I don't and I don't think we should cater to them, but that's just me. I am trying to shine a spot light on those who think they should be banned. Let Du DECIDE, and so far its looking pretty good to me.

mercuryblues

(14,637 posts)
237. Are you fucking serious
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:23 AM
Aug 2016

The 1st and ONLY mention of banning TYT from DU came for YOUR own post. So now you make an entire OP claiming others were saying his videos should be banned.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512331623

Demsrule86

(69,669 posts)
213. You don't have to ban them
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:49 AM
Aug 2016

They have irritated me so I don't listen...problem solved. I don't believe in banning unless they are working to elect a third party spoiler in which case they don't belong here.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
41. Sure, that's fine with me! Why not? :-P Let's do it!
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:04 AM
Aug 2016

It's pretty clear that their agenda is to harm Hillary (even though they disguise it as "concern&quot and they appear to take great delight in their task... presumably their desire is still to "burn it down" so that the "revolution" can commence.

Mmmm.... so tasty.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
246. Uh...if one's goal is to weaken our nominee, and if one is giddy over the idea of a Trump presidency
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 07:10 AM
Aug 2016

... and being able to say "told-ya-so", and if the only "network" they can get to host their show is the Russia Today propaganda network ... well, "uh" ... what they have to say isn't valid, and they are evil. Anyone who does anything to improve Trump's chances of becoming president is evil.

Blue_Adept

(6,419 posts)
7. Easier to ignore the agitators
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:42 AM
Aug 2016

And by agitators I mean the DU members calling for this (haven't seen it personally).

They just want attention and are throwing shit at the screen. Divisive and looking to mess with general post-convention unity.

Mockery is all they deserve.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
56. They are dead serious...so I am calling them out
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:20 AM
Aug 2016

If you see something, alert on something. I think its stupid but some want it this way. Crack down on any Hillary Haters... or so called.

mercuryblues

(14,637 posts)
241. You haven't
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:44 AM
Aug 2016

seen it, because it most likely hasn't happened.

The only "link" she gave to prove DUers were calling for banning...Shows she was the only one who suggested banning to begin with. To which someone replied "huh?"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512331623

IOW. The entire premise of this OP is based on a lie.

womanofthehills

(9,010 posts)
186. Nor does Laura Flanders or Abby Martin
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:56 PM
Aug 2016

They are all part of the Ring of Fire Progressive Network

Abby Martin, Benjamin Dixon, David Pakman, Ed Schultz, Farron Cousins, Laura Flanders, Lee Camp, Mike Malloy, Mike Papantonio, Robert Kennedy Jr, Sam Sedar, Cenk & Ana (Young Turks), and Thom Hartman

 

uhnope

(6,419 posts)
228. a "progressive network" that insults the name
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:50 AM
Aug 2016

Ed Schultz has sold out to Putin's RT and is now making pro-Trump asides, Abby Martin is nothing but a highest-bidder propagandist & CTer who went from RT to Telesur, Hartmann has also flushed his cred down the toilet in similar manner

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
238. If I'm not mistaken, DU's owners are white males.
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:24 AM
Aug 2016

Perhaps those upset about Cenk, et al. should really take a stand -- create a white male-free site and see how well it does.

emulatorloo

(45,258 posts)
29. Do you believe Cenk is above criticism?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

I agree the criticism in that thread is way off base

OP is harsh but again I don't believe you can extrapolate from the thread that DU is over run by screaming hoards trying to get Cenk et al banned.

And even if they were, Admins wouldn't go along with it.

As to my post title, I like all these commentators but they aren't sacred cows. People can disagree with things they say.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
67. doesn't it bother you that some who
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

have informed us for these many years, now have people on DU who want their heads on the chopping block? What does that tell you?

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
150. I know there are a lot of new DUers
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

who may not know who Thom Hartmann, or Mike Malloy is, but one learns very quickly if one watches any of the videos in the V&M section.

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
152. The 10 names who've voted to ban are not newbies
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:52 PM
Aug 2016

I'm sure there are more who silently agree but aren't willing to put their name on that poll

Peacetrain

(23,443 posts)
15. We are in campaign mode at DU.. the primaries are over..
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:48 AM
Aug 2016

If someone or group is undercutting us (I am a Democrat) especially at this crucial moment.. then they are essentially pushing for Trump to be elected and that is not viable at this point in time...

Peacetrain

(23,443 posts)
25. You can't try and shout down the Democrats right now..
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:53 AM
Aug 2016

If that is the thing you want to do.. wrong place.. I am not advocating banning anyone unless they are hell bent on promoting the other side.. the next 99 days.. if you have good criticism .. I am all for it.. if you are out to undermine the candidate we have chosen.. totally different ball of wax.. Anyone should be able to join with us and add their voices.. but not if it is to kneecap the party at this critical juncture...

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. I'm going to take a wild guess that those posters are asking
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:49 AM
Aug 2016

trolls who are still posting anti Hillary crap to stop. I'm with them.

Demsrule86

(69,669 posts)
217. I agree with that
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:57 AM
Aug 2016

I don't care who the source is ...if it attacks our nominee it should not be here.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
20. Russian propaganda
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:50 AM
Aug 2016

Not watching or listening to anything on RT.

I think all of that should be banned, it's usually not true whatever the article is.

TYT are just awful but they shouldn't be banned.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
30. SO why aren't you alerting on RT VIDEOS...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

That's where Thom Hartmann is... maybe he should be banned as well?

Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #30)

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
58. Great did you do my poll?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:21 AM
Aug 2016

If you feel strongly about this, and are serious,do my poll. Put your voice out there.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
148. you don't have enough time to alert?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:45 PM
Aug 2016

How long does it take to click the alert button and make a choice? As fast as it takes to
type what you just did most likely.

metroins

(2,550 posts)
151. Gotta find them
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:49 PM
Aug 2016

I trashed the multimedia forum.

If you'd like to search them out and alert, feel free.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
32. Really? You been on DU for 15,000 postings and you
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:58 AM
Aug 2016

don't know who any of them are? You never click on the videos, ever?

Kaleva

(36,967 posts)
43. I've never watched any of their videos.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:05 AM
Aug 2016

They are pundits and that's about all I know of them. I rarely ever go into the V&M forum. Reading posts in the Hillary group, I know they are critical of Hillary but I couldn't tell you why.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
157. You're not missing anything.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 06:24 PM
Aug 2016

It's politically unsophisticated, and production-wise it's very amateurish.

womanofthehills

(9,010 posts)
187. Go over to Ring of Fire and watch their videos - new ones every day
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:01 PM
Aug 2016

Great info on the environment, big pharma and social justice along others.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
31. my view advocating anything against hillary and democratic party
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:57 AM
Aug 2016

at this moment goes against DU TOS......to me, shames our fight to keep trump out of the whitehouse and destroying our country

you can't advocate for a 3rd party when any votes for the third party is the same as voting FOR TRUMP.....get control of the egos

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
34. They are bullshit artists making pro Trump arguments.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

Banning them, no. Requiring all posts of their material carry a disclaimer announcing their pro Trump arguments and lies woud be fine.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
144. They are not members. Only members can be banned for making
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 04:33 PM
Aug 2016

Anti-Clinton or anti-Democratic party posts.

I am leary of banning sources, even if they are bullshit propaganda sources.

yodermon

(6,147 posts)
37. Nothing "Underground" about this place any more.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:03 AM
Aug 2016

I like it for LBN. The rest is shibboleths and accusations of concern-trolling for just expressing a thought.

SMC22307

(8,090 posts)
240. Was it ever "Underground"? Didn't members overwhelmingly oppose the Iraq War?
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 10:36 AM
Aug 2016

It appears that the site has become a shell of its former self. And it definitely seems stifling in recent months -- so much discussion revolves around rules and who is allowed to say what. Not very stimulating.

NYC Liberal

(20,216 posts)
42. Meh, I'll just trash their threads or use the Keyword Trash feature.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:05 AM
Aug 2016

If others want to read/listen to that crap then let them.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
104. I've heard of them due to DU
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:30 PM
Aug 2016

Rarely watch them, unless some DUer puts up something from them if the subject sounds interesting. Not big on pundits. I guess I don't see why I need to care what they think.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
47. MAlloy urges his listeners to not vote for Hillary. So does TYT.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:08 AM
Aug 2016

Hartmann is a moron, but at least he is semi-sane.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
66. For starters, anybody posting a thread promoting MAlloy's show should be banned.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:27 AM
Aug 2016

That would be my choice.

Ban them, except Hartmann. He has even personally been hidden for posting woo, though.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
71. I was Talking about banning videos
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:32 AM
Aug 2016

by Hartmann, Malloy etc, but now you want to ban, the people who posted those videos? ... um okay..

nadine_mn

(3,702 posts)
75. Actually, now that Hillary has won the nomination TYT is voting for her
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:39 AM
Aug 2016

There are a few guests that are on TYT that are still Busters, but the majority have advocated for voting for Hillary...as a vote against Trump.

Cenk wants Hillary to go after Trump hard, he wants her to win. Just because they don't support everything about her, doesn't mean they aren't voting for her. Many have policy differences, think she isn't progressive enough, but still know she is way better for this country.

Response to yuiyoshida (Original post)

Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #60)

 

Dr Hobbitstein

(6,568 posts)
54. Meh, I ignore talking heads.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:18 AM
Aug 2016

Especially talking heads on RT.

Regardless, they all suck. I don't want liberal commentators, just like I don't want conservative commentators. I just want the facts. No spin, no bs. Just the facts.

lapucelle

(19,227 posts)
59. I'm a Hillary supporter now, and I was one in 2008 as well.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:22 AM
Aug 2016

I remember how marginalized I felt after the convention in 2008. The thing that hurt me most was the gloating by some on the winning side.

I've listened to Thom Hartman for many years. He has given Bernie two solid hours every Friday (Brunch with Bernie) for years when nobody outside of Vermont (except for political junkies) had even heard of him.

I saw Cenk on either CNN or MSNBC this weekend chatting up the Democratic ticket.

Rather than ban these voices, why not take a look at what they're saying now and what they say going forward? If they decide to play the politics of petulance by further damaging Hillary, cut them loose. If they're on board with electing the Democratic candidate, then they're valuable voices, especially in bringing some of the holdouts into the fold.

DFW

(55,288 posts)
68. Why bother?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:28 AM
Aug 2016

We don't ban Fox Noise or National Hate Radio, either. You listen or you don't as you see fit.

I'm pro-choice in more ways than one.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
81. I totally agree and yet there are some
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:50 AM
Aug 2016

it seems there are some who want to control what's said here.

DFW

(55,288 posts)
121. There must be some nuance to all this
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:20 PM
Aug 2016

All this business with new rules and all took place during time I was not active on DU, and I haven't gone over them in detail, but I think there has to be a middle ground between a desire to completely control all dialogue and a laissez-faire attitude that permits any and all vicious ugliness, both spontaneous and organized. I don't know ANYONE who doesn't like Thom Hartmann, whether you are 100% with him politically or not. On the other hand, I can't imagine anyone here who uses Fox Noise as a serious source of information or inspiration, although I did indeed sense of that from the more dedicated of the "I-Hate-Hillary" crowd before I left.

I find myself with a modified version of Mao's "Let a hundred flowers bloom. Let a hundred schools of though contend." Never mind that Mao never intended for his phrase to be taken seriously in 1960s China. I take it seriously now, although when I say "let a hundred schools of thought contend," I did NOT interpret that to mean "let a hundred posters on DU tear each other to bloody shreds and feed the scraps to hungry great whites." Not all shared my point of view, but what else is new?

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
76. Let's ban the INTERNET
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:41 AM
Aug 2016

Without it we wouldn't have most these problems to worry about, just think how wonderful life could be again

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
93. But, but, but i only watch reruns on netflix, how else would one be able fall asleep?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:06 PM
Aug 2016

And since the internet is still legal, and one of those your list is coming up on air, i am going to do paperwork, save some money on postage, listen to guy and have even more fun and it's all on YOUR internet

P.S. and can you imagine people once had to lick stamps to attach them to their letters

George Eliot

(701 posts)
162. "newspeak" & privileged inner party - from Wiki
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:56 PM
Aug 2016
the superstate Oceania in a world of perpetual war, omnipresent government surveillance and public manipulation, dictated by a political system euphemistically named English Socialism (or Ingsoc in the government's invented language, Newspeak) under the control of a privileged elite of the Inner Party, that persecutes individualism and independent thinking as "thoughtcrime."[3]

The tyranny is epitomised by Big Brother, the Party leader who enjoys an intense cult of personality but who may not even exist. The Party "seeks power entirely for its own sake. It is not interested in the good of others; it is interested solely in power."[4] The protagonist of the novel, Winston Smith, is a member of the Outer Party, who works for the Ministry of Truth (or Minitrue in Newspeak), which is responsible for propaganda and historical revisionism. His job is to rewrite past newspaper articles, so that the historical record always supports the party line


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nineteen_Eighty-Four

Why would anybody want to elimiate the "outer party" who are still speaking individually and truthfully?

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
89. But some here say these guys are with
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:58 AM
Aug 2016

the other side. FT is Russian Tv and therefore with Trump. Thom Hartmann is on RT therefore they guess he must be with Trump. Cenk is a Berniebro..so he must be with Jill Stein or Trump, or so they are saying.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512331623

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
92. it follows right?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:02 PM
Aug 2016

If anyone of those talk show hosts plug for anyone but Hillary, then the logical thing to do is make sure those videos aren't on here, effecting weak minds... and influencing people. There for some believe those Video hosts should not post on DU.

well, check this thread:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512331623

It pisses me off it be even considered.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
97. THEY THINK Cenk is anti Hillary
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:16 PM
Aug 2016

THey THINK THOM Hartmann is on RT there by anti Hillary
THey THINK Mike Malloy is anti Hillary...

According to TOS those advocating for anything but Hillary should be removed from DU
and it stands to reason, than the next step is obvious, ban their videos. I have read on Du that some want this done. I spot 8 in my poll already. ASK them!

betsuni

(26,589 posts)
112. This is a site for Democrats. Clinton is the Democratic nominee.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:40 PM
Aug 2016

It's not strange that when Cenk and Malloy consider Democrats worse than Republicans it's not welcomed. I see videos of TYT and Malloy and Thom here all the time. Nobody is going to ban them unless their shows violate the TOS.

Here's a video for you. I know you like it but I hate it. That doesn't mean I want to ban it. Get it?


yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
114. I do love that video but also I have not asked for any videos to be banned
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:47 PM
Aug 2016

I have simply stated, that some people on DU would like to see those video bloggers removed from DU. I have seen multiple examples of it. I do not agree with it but am simply showing people
here that there are people who want that to happen. Look, at the 10 who want it above in my poll.

DemonGoddess

(4,649 posts)
87. Well, I personally can't stand TYT show
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:56 AM
Aug 2016

Thom Hartmann waffles all the time, and so on. But I won't ask for their shit to be banned. I choose not to listen/watch anything coming from RUSSIA Today. Piss on that.

DemonGoddess

(4,649 posts)
102. yes I did
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:27 PM
Aug 2016

I voted to pass. My personal opinion of these yahoos is my opinion. It has not a thing to do with whether or not they should be denied as source material.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
106. I agree
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:33 PM
Aug 2016

The whole point of this little exercise was just to see that in our midst we have extremest as well..and I don't care to have videos banned because people disagree with them. For years these video bloggers have kept us informed. Why change now?

DemonGoddess

(4,649 posts)
111. conspiracy theory crap
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:39 PM
Aug 2016

stuff that is easily disproved, yet too many people listen and take them at their word, instead of looking at it themselves.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
94. What is slanted...
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:07 PM
Aug 2016

Wait, you would use the term "slanted" to an Asian American?? Just kiddin. relax... and its true, some people on DU would like it just fine if those videos were not posted on dU. TYT for example.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512331623

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
100. That was amusing: I just voted in this poll while serving on a jury for it.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:22 PM
Aug 2016

I didn't even know that was possible.

 

Ron Obvious

(6,261 posts)
103. I voted to keep
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

If I'm even allowed to say that these days. I miss the old jury system where I could have said exactly what you just said and read the other comments.

It's still here, so I'm hoping it'll stay.

This place is getting more unhinged by the day.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
110. If people are upset with the videos
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:37 PM
Aug 2016

they can alert on them enough that people will decide not to post them any longer. That to me would be a shame. I would hate to see it happen.

 

KMOD

(7,906 posts)
115. I have no idea who Mike Malloy is.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

as far as Cenk or Hartmann, I don't watch or listen to their programs. To each their own.

womanofthehills

(9,010 posts)
190. I am amazed too - they are all progressive voices who have been around for years
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:13 PM
Aug 2016

Many of them were on Air America Radio and on local radio stations. Papantonio is one of the most famous environmental lawyers.

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
124. Already have the rules in place for this. Don't need new ones.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:30 PM
Aug 2016

If it's a piece that is anti Democrat, it's a no-no, needs to be hidden and the poster reviewed.

If it's a piece that isn't anti-Democrat it's a leave.

It shouldn't matter if they are anti-Hillary or not. Each piece or segment should stand on its own merit. Not every segment they do is about, or even mentions Hillary.

From the rules:

Don't bash Democratic public figures
Do not post disrespectful nicknames, insults, or highly inflammatory attacks against any Democratic public figures. Do not post anything that could be construed as bashing, trashing, undermining, or depressing turnout for any Democratic general election candidate, and do not compare any Democratic general election candidate unfavorably to their general election opponent(s).

Why we have this rule: Our forum members support and admire a wide variety of Democratic politicians and public figures. Constructive criticism is always welcome, but our members don't expect to see Democrats viciously denigrated on this website. This rule also applies to Independents who align themselves with Democrats (eg: Bernie Sanders)


If you're posting on this site, you (collectively not directed at the OP) agreed to it.

Ilsa

(61,842 posts)
127. THOM HARTMANN HAS CONSISTENTLY CALLED ON SBS SUPPORTERS TO SUPPORT HILLARY IN THE GE.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:38 PM
Aug 2016

He voted for SBS in the primary, but he has encouraged all bernie voters to support Clinton. He has told them that the SCOTUS for the next generation depends on them voting for Sec. Clinton. Anyone who says differsntly is being dishonest.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
143. In fact, before the primaries were over he
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:43 PM
Aug 2016

went on Stephanie Miller's show and she on his. They both pledged to support the other's candidate if theirs did not win (Steph a big Hillary supporter). Thom is hardly a moron. He is one of the most intelligent radio/tv hosts around. He's well-read and has written over 20 books himself. Those of you unfamiliar w/ him, I would strongly suggest you check him out.

Ilsa

(61,842 posts)
146. Thank you for backing mre up and augmenting
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 05:28 PM
Aug 2016

The substance of my reply. Thom (and Stephanie) knows what's at stake.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
130. Pundits get a little crazy sometimes
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:40 PM
Aug 2016

We can argue against what they say if we think they're wrong about something, and if a user shows a pattern of picking and choosing clips to construct an anti-Clinton narritive, or anti-Democrat narritive, then that user can be banned.

They're pundits, not journalists, so it seems the normal rules would apply as sources for certain things, like LBN.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
132. and yet we have all seen the
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:47 PM
Aug 2016

Alex Jones video posted. Most of the time those are taken down. But some were put up for amusement. These bloggers have always been on our side. Even Malloy despite some of is outrageous off the cuff videos.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
133. Yeah
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 01:54 PM
Aug 2016

They all put out pretty good content most of the time. Banning them and sources like them entirely would make this just a news site without much to discuss, lol.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
140. I had a post hidden for repeating a Facebook post by Reich and an NYT article
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:14 PM
Aug 2016

I'm on a very short leash at the moment. I shouldn't even be posting this -- but the drive to censor is getting way out of hand.

G_j

(40,394 posts)
142. agreed
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 03:34 PM
Aug 2016

The only reason I bother coming here at all anymore, is that I don't like the idea of being bullied off this site.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
161. I cannot STAND Cenk with his fake self
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 07:46 PM
Aug 2016
http://newsvideo.su/video/3526873

The shit he does where he says Hillary's 'racism' is more Devastating Than Donald Trump's is one good damn reason to ban his ass. We black folks DO NOT NEED HIS ASS TO SPEAK FOR US AND DECIDE SHIT FOR US. He also was with that Stockholm syndrome racist ass shit and I did NOT see his fans disavow any of his shit. HE LOVE TO SPEAK FOR BLACK FOLKS. He is in. No damn way black. Turkish is not african. My bff is Turkish too, NOT BLACK.

Thom is weak willed and paid by a Russian propaganda org.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
183. The problem is having to sit through watching the videos. It's easy with a written post
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:48 PM
Aug 2016

to quickly see if there's a problem. Not so with the videos.

Which is why I think certain people rely on them.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
185. I have been told on DU that if a
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:54 PM
Aug 2016

guy is a nutjob, like Alex Jones you can alert on every video. Why should you treat another blogger any different?

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
192. Because without knowing what was in a Thom Hartmann video, I couldn't know whether
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:26 PM
Aug 2016

it might survive an alert. Too many of those and I wouldn't be on any more juries.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
193. if you fully believe that a video blogger is as bad as
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:28 PM
Aug 2016

an Alex Jones Blogger, isn't it your duty to alert on it, each and every time?

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
195. so you think that sometimes their video bloggs are
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:33 PM
Aug 2016

okay? But if they say they won't support Hillary than what? Mike Malloy openly says He will not support Hillary, do you think he should not have his videos here?

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
196. I haven't watched any of their videos since the primaries, and even then I watched very few.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:39 PM
Aug 2016

I hate watching videos instead of reading, and frequently the sound on my laptop doesn't work anyway.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
197. but now knowing this information about
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:47 PM
Aug 2016

Mike Malloy, will you alert on his videos? Or maybe leave it for someone else to do it?

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
198. I'm not going to alert on videos I haven't listened to unless I have some other reason
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:49 PM
Aug 2016

for thinking that specific one should be alerted on.

But if Skinner ever put him on a banned list, I'd assume Malloy had earned his spot there, based on the videos I have watched.

Demsrule86

(69,669 posts)
234. Thom annoyed me during the primary
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 09:51 AM
Aug 2016

and he has had Jill Stein...the spawn of Satan on his show. During the primary, he followed the "Hillary did not have enough votes to clinch the nomination"...even after California. This was not true and I felt he was misleading Bernie supporters. At that point, I stopped listening to him. Everyone has an opinion but accurate information must be aired. That being said, I can turn the show off so I don't support blanket banning. Since the election, he has said Hillary Clinton is the only sane choice which is true. But many of those who call still say cruel,untrue things about her, and I don't see him correcting them often. So while I would not ban Thom, I don't listen much anymore. He is a smart guy, and I used to really enjoy his show. This has been a tough primary/election season, people I have long admired have disappointed me. I loved the Yount Turk and watched their shows every week when they were on the Gore channel and later on the net...but I would not now. It takes a certain amount of selfishness and privilege to be able to throw millions of vulnerable Americans under the bus by attacking Sec. Clinton: the only person who stands between us and Trump. Also, I don't like Stein and she has made more than one appearance on Thom's show. She was also on Make It Plain. Now any person or organization who writes and tapes videos that attack our nominee has no place here and should be called out every time. We support Democrats here. They can post elsewhere. This has nothing to do with freedom of speech and everything to do with our purpose here.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
170. Than I guess you will have to start
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:24 PM
Aug 2016

alerting on all young Turks and all Thom Hartmann videos, and work towards making it impossible for people to post them here.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
172. I will alert if he says crazy stuff like Hillary is worse than Trump
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:27 PM
Aug 2016

He might need a reality check

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
174. why are you putting an "if" on it?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:31 PM
Aug 2016

If he says it the first time are you Gonna Give him a pass the second time?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
177. And is that a problem?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:37 PM
Aug 2016

Perhaps is Cenk could stop demonizing Democrats and our candidates, then he wiuld not have his videos alerted. I understand where he is coming from, him being a former republican and all.

pnwmom

(109,197 posts)
164. Alert on specific material that is anti-Hillary.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:04 PM
Aug 2016

If a high percentage of any of these sources is anti-Hillary, then ban them like other anti-Democratic sites.

Andy823

(11,504 posts)
168. I agree
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:16 PM
Aug 2016

I keep seeing a lot of threads started with "concern" over something the poster finds that is negative towards Hillary. Their "concern" seems more like trying to game the system to put in negative things about Hillary, but try and keep from having their post removed. It also seems like a lot of the old "gang" that left, are coming back to cause more problems. They find some "concern" post and rec it up to keep in front and center, just like they did during the primaries.

We don't need to see the same crap again that we saw in the primaries.

BainsBane

(53,395 posts)
165. Where's the option for I don't give a fuck?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:05 PM
Aug 2016

About any of the corporate media entertainment pablum passing itself off as journalism?

I can imagine it must be terribly upsetting to see mere citizens criticize multi-million dollar entertainment brands.

BainsBane

(53,395 posts)
182. Really? Because the only reason DU exists?
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:46 PM
Aug 2016

Is to promote the profits of entertainers? That should really be in TOS.
Maybe just sign all the content over to Time Warner. Then we could put an end to citizens expressing views that cut into the almighty profit margin.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
184. They are to some respected bloggers who people
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:51 PM
Aug 2016

have been listening to for years. You have an alert button. Anytime you see their posts, click it and deal with it. Most of the time, the post is dealt with fairly.

Demsrule86

(69,669 posts)
216. No one who cares about progressive politics should be
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 07:56 AM
Aug 2016

attempting to help Trump by attacking Hillary Clinton. I don't care if they have a sacred blog or on ten TV programs and numerous radio stations. And I question their motivation. Electing Trump would hurt so many innocent people that only a truly selfish uncaring person would do it. I would ban no one...I simply would ignore them.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
189. The TOS say differently.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:09 PM
Aug 2016

If you see an anti Democratic posting its your duty to alert it, right? If someone posts a pro-Donald Trump posting its your duty to alert on it, so why is this different? We support Democrats
here not Republicans, or Greens, or Independents.

anamnua

(1,190 posts)
199. To be fair to TYT
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:02 AM
Aug 2016

they toned down the anti-Hillary stuff substantially during and after the convention -- even 'antagonistic' Ana. I think they are seeing Hillaire Belloc's inescapable logic:

Always hold on tight to nurse for fear of getting something worse

anamnua

(1,190 posts)
219. She didn't. I just invented it!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 08:00 AM
Aug 2016

I wonder will it stick?!
She is the high priestess of ideological purity.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
202. Wait so because he is posted
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:17 AM
Aug 2016

often here, by others you won't hit the alert button? If It was Alex Jones would you?

 

liberalnarb

(4,532 posts)
203. What?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:19 AM
Aug 2016

That question didn't seem to make any sense. I do alert on Malloy videos (if it's necessary) and I've never seen an Alex Jones video posted here.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
205. okay so you will be
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:24 AM
Aug 2016

alerting on all future Malloy videos when they are posted. Yes actually Alex Jones videos have been posted on DU and then removed. Some here have stated they will alert on all RT videos in the future, so that includes Thom Hartmann. That just leaves the Young Turks. Some are offended by them as well.

yuiyoshida

(42,083 posts)
207. good!
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:32 AM
Aug 2016

so you are not in the camp that says, if they said one thing bad about Hillary in a video, all their videos should be suspect?

 

baldguy

(36,649 posts)
210. If they bash Democrats, or advocate not voting for them - sure.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:38 AM
Aug 2016

And if they do anything else to violate the TOS.

They shouldn't have some sort of protected status just because they're "famous".

Lottie5

(12 posts)
211. When does wearing pink underwear become a crime?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 06:42 AM
Aug 2016

How can we help get Hillary elected if we spend all our time looking for commies / Russians under the rugs?

chknltl

(10,558 posts)
223. Interesting Poll
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:50 PM
Aug 2016

I can not imagine similar results nor would I have expected many of these responses from our fellow DUers even 2 years ago. Quite illuminating yuiyoshida. KnR

betsuni

(26,589 posts)
229. Strawman bullshit remains quite popular for some reason.
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 09:57 AM
Aug 2016

There needs to be a bullshit strawman emoji.

 

brooklynite

(96,641 posts)
244. It must be nice to surround yourself with voices who always agree with you...
Sun Aug 7, 2016, 11:37 PM
Aug 2016

...but I'll stick with variety.

Squinch

(51,410 posts)
230. This is a riot! I went and looked at the thread you referenced in post 24 where people
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:40 PM
Aug 2016

were supposedly calling for the banning of these people and guess what???

The only person that even MENTIONED anything about banning ANY of them was...... YOU!!!

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