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brooklynite

(94,586 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:23 AM Aug 2016

The Trump dam may be about to burst...

‏@jheil John Heilemann
Four more red states to watch for potential shocker polls: AZ, MO, TX, UT.


Mark Halperin said today he was aware of other polls in the field that could be as dramatic as this week's...
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The Trump dam may be about to burst... (Original Post) brooklynite Aug 2016 OP
If Texas flips heads will explode. bullimiami Aug 2016 #1
Even if in the end he win some of these states, Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #6
Trump is in a bad way in OH .... I live in OH Botany Aug 2016 #11
I think it is getting closer duncang Aug 2016 #16
I've been saying for a while that Texas will eventually become a swing state democrattotheend Aug 2016 #33
Georgia and South Carolina might also be in play Botany Aug 2016 #2
South Carolina? underpants Aug 2016 #3
Still it is a long shot but one poll had South Carolina going from ..... Botany Aug 2016 #9
538 had Mississippi as light red yesterday underpants Aug 2016 #10
And, just from my observatons here... GoCubsGo Aug 2016 #19
What State are you in? padfun Aug 2016 #30
South Carolina. GoCubsGo Aug 2016 #34
Be still my heart C_U_L8R Aug 2016 #4
Wow...I wish and hope...now that would really be something. nt Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #5
Indiana blue, no way! B Calm Aug 2016 #8
IN went blue in 2008 Botany Aug 2016 #12
That's the kind of map we need so the democratic party workinclasszero Aug 2016 #18
Georgia is trending blue this time around Politicub Aug 2016 #23
Clinton up either by 3 or 4 in the latest Georgia Poll (Atlanta Journal-Constitution) Botany Aug 2016 #24
Georgia was close in 2008.... forkol Aug 2016 #32
GA: Clinton +4 Major Nikon Aug 2016 #26
Ring that bell! MineralMan Aug 2016 #7
If Hillary goes up in the polls (more than the MOE) in Texas auntpurl Aug 2016 #13
Very positive news. Hortensis Aug 2016 #14
OMG jcgoldie Aug 2016 #15
Come on Texas! ffr Aug 2016 #21
538 isn't showing a poll for Texas since 6/10-6/20.. that's before cannabis_flower Aug 2016 #31
the delish thing is mopinko Aug 2016 #17
Down ticket races zipplewrath Aug 2016 #20
I think soon the 538 line for Drumpf will be flatlining ffr Aug 2016 #22
Texas?? Naw. rivegauche Aug 2016 #25
Is there a downside to crashing too soon. ToxMarz Aug 2016 #27
A republican came to our door last night Inspired Aug 2016 #28
The Koch brothers are concentrating their money on down-ballot races this year, so gridlock... Hekate Aug 2016 #35
I live in Texas and work with a number of good ole boys.They don't say much about Trump lately. argyl Aug 2016 #29

Demsrule86

(68,582 posts)
6. Even if in the end he win some of these states,
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:45 AM
Aug 2016

it still cost him big dollars to fight in those states. Trump's Ohio operation is not up and running I hear.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
11. Trump is in a bad way in OH .... I live in OH
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:59 AM
Aug 2016

Not only is the Governor against him but a senior member of the OH GOP has M.S. and
has been very public about how much he does not like Trump after Trump made fun of
that NY Times' reporter's neuromuscular illness.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
16. I think it is getting closer
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

I have read articles saying there is only a 3.9% difference between democrat and republican. But there was 16% more votes repub in the last prez election. So getting mixed messages on line. But pretty sure this election will move Texas further left. And just demographics will be moving it further in the future. A lot does depend on what the next 4 years hold.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
33. I've been saying for a while that Texas will eventually become a swing state
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 03:16 PM
Aug 2016

Based on the fact that the Latino population is growing faster than the white population, and many of the old southern racists are dying off.

Botany

(70,510 posts)
2. Georgia and South Carolina might also be in play
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:38 AM
Aug 2016

And Indiana even with Pence Trump might lose that state.


1964 might be Trump's model for 2016

Botany

(70,510 posts)
9. Still it is a long shot but one poll had South Carolina going from .....
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:48 AM
Aug 2016

Last edited Fri Aug 5, 2016, 01:18 PM - Edit history (1)

.... solid red to leans red.

Trump has lost women (except for white christian females), African Americans,
and Hispanics ..... add Pence's anti Gay & Lesbian actions and even in S. Carolina
the math becomes a bit harder for Trump.

S. Carolina is about 28 to 30% African American and its Hispanic population
is growing too. Although S. Carolina's PTB have been working for years to
keep blacks from voting.

underpants

(182,826 posts)
10. 538 had Mississippi as light red yesterday
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:50 AM
Aug 2016

SC and MISSISSIPPI???

I go over at lunch and see if any of our second place trophies on Monument Avenue (Richmond VA) are crying.

GoCubsGo

(32,085 posts)
19. And, just from my observatons here...
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:06 AM
Aug 2016

I have been seeing far more Hillary bumper stickers and signs than I do those for Trump. I have also noticed at least as many LTEs and op-eds in the local papers stating that say we shouldn't vote for him, because he's dangerous, if not more than those that support him. I know it's just anecdotal, but I don't get the sense there is the same enthusiasm here for Trump that there has been for previous republican candidates. That's not to say that I think my state will turn "blue" in November. But then, we do have those black box voting machines, and our governor has been at odds with Trump... I wouldn't put it past her, especially since she likely has presidential aspirations of her own.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
18. That's the kind of map we need so the democratic party
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:53 AM
Aug 2016

can finally bury the legacy of Reagan and W and their anti-american party!

forkol

(113 posts)
32. Georgia was close in 2008....
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:08 PM
Aug 2016

And for this election, there's been a large increase in the Latino voter registration for this election:

http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local-govt-politics/latino-voter-registration-surges-amid-trumps-rise/nrjsR/

It will be interesting to see how it all plays out.

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
13. If Hillary goes up in the polls (more than the MOE) in Texas
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:02 AM
Aug 2016

that is the only scenario in which I would believe the Repubs will actually try to dump Trump. They cannot afford to lose Texas, and I don't mean in this presidential race alone. If Latinos and other Dems in Texas get registered and vote and feel enfranchised, that will really be the end of the GOP being able to win national elections.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Very positive news.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:11 AM
Aug 2016

I'll feel better when I know most of America understands Trump is truly dysfunctional and dangerous, though. A lot of people do not think it's unreasonable to worry about a terrorist attack in the U.S. designed to elect Trump and defeat Clinton.

If that were to happen, it'd be terribly important that most of a frightened and angry electorate turned to Clinton for safety.

And of course far more states than necessary going for Hillary ahead of time could be helpful in such a case, and a mandate would be wonderful. Even so, I'd be interested in trading some new-blue-president states for some new-blue senators and governorships.

cannabis_flower

(3,764 posts)
31. 538 isn't showing a poll for Texas since 6/10-6/20.. that's before
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 12:00 PM
Aug 2016

That's before the Republican Convention, Ted Cruz, the Democratic Convention and the Trump eruptions.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
20. Down ticket races
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:08 AM
Aug 2016

If only the down ticket races would look anything like this at all. I'm afraid the sound of ticket splitting will be deafening that evening.

rivegauche

(601 posts)
25. Texas?? Naw.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:53 AM
Aug 2016

Not going to happen. The other states, she may be gaining. Texas going blue is like a wet dream, frankly.

ToxMarz

(2,168 posts)
27. Is there a downside to crashing too soon.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:54 AM
Aug 2016

I know sometimes it is not a good thing to peak too soon. I want him to crash, but was expecting the total crash right before the election

Inspired

(3,957 posts)
28. A republican came to our door last night
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:55 AM
Aug 2016

since my husband is still a registered R. He told them that he was not supporting Trump and was voting for Hillary. The door knocker said she was hearing a lot of that and only wanted to know if he would continue to support the congressional candidates. My husband thought it was interesting that they didn't come back with anything concerning why he should support Trump. It was all about the down ticket.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
35. The Koch brothers are concentrating their money on down-ballot races this year, so gridlock...
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 05:26 PM
Aug 2016

...can continue under a Hillary presidency. Whatever else they are, they're not stupid. Evil, yes; stupid, no.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
29. I live in Texas and work with a number of good ole boys.They don't say much about Trump lately.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:57 AM
Aug 2016

A few of them are embarrassed.

Texas going blue in 2016 may not be out of the question.

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