2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIn every poll I've seen, Jill Stein is irrelevant.
Johnson is a different story but I don't see him getting a lot of liberal votes.
I have seen nothing that shows that Stein has the ability to garner a significant share of Sanders voters. And having a running mate trashing Bernie won't help her gain their support.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)hlthe2b
(102,283 posts)is about as despicable as I can imagine.
I do have some concerns re: Gary Johnson pulling a few less discerning lib/progressives--those who might be bamboozled by his attacks on Trump and think he represents the "liberal" side of libertarianism.
emulatorloo
(44,130 posts)"In a four way race, Clinton retains her lead. She gets 45 percent to Trumps 31 percent. Libertarian Gary Johnson has 10 percent and the Green Partys Jill Stein has 6 percent."
Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article93763582.html#storylink=cpy
emulatorloo
(44,130 posts)for disaffected Sanders voters, as Baraka despises Bernie and Bernie supporters. Yet more Poor judgement on Stein's part.
Irrelevant in this election.
still_one
(92,209 posts)is critical, and the Democratic party must be campaigning as though they are behind
The election is still a long way off, and a lot of things can happen
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)ALL of them rejected her after actually looking in to her and her running mate. She will not be a significant factor.
Johnson COULD be.
cali
(114,904 posts)but don't you believe he'd take more votes from trump than Hillary?
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)And who will reinforce each other's attacks on Hillary. I think in a one on one Trump will sound like an idiot, because he will have no one to ape.
I don't think Johnson will bother going against Trump but will go for Hillary - just to get more press.
Demsrule86
(68,582 posts)I can't stand the Greens.
MadBadger
(24,089 posts)I also think those kinds of people haven't looked too deeply at what Gary Johnson actually stands for. All of it.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)by support I mean run media stories, random donations so she can 'keep on trucking', and make sure stories about her are posted on aggregate news sites and add comments.
If they can grow that 6% to even 8 or 9, that's less for Clinton.
These are the same radical RW who 'backed' bundy and are extremely anti-federal government. People seem to have forgotten the Federal Government is the peoples Gov. Without the FDA we have no protections at all. Without Federal DOI, our PUBLIC lands will be gone forever to state interests.
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)On the left, there are the Bernie-or-Busters, and on the right, there are the Never-Trumpers.
The Bernie-or-Busters could vote for Jill Stein, or for Gary Johnson, depending on the individual.
But the Never-Trumpers are far more likely to vote for Gary Johnson - I don't see many right-wing third-party-voters voting for Jill Stein.
So the poll numbers indicate that there are FAR more Never-Trumpers than Bernie-or-Busters. Hell, Bernie himself was never a Bernie-or-Buster.
Like I said, that's good news for us.
cali
(114,904 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Which is ridiculous. Most of this is a reaction to them. But she is running sine shittt up ads too.