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cali

(114,904 posts)
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:43 AM Aug 2016

In every poll I've seen, Jill Stein is irrelevant.

Johnson is a different story but I don't see him getting a lot of liberal votes.

I have seen nothing that shows that Stein has the ability to garner a significant share of Sanders voters. And having a running mate trashing Bernie won't help her gain their support.

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In every poll I've seen, Jill Stein is irrelevant. (Original Post) cali Aug 2016 OP
let's keep her that way. nt geek tragedy Aug 2016 #1
Progressives are beginning to see her TRUE FASCIST LEANINGS! eom MohRokTah Aug 2016 #2
Jill Stein is irrelevant on every account. MineralMan Aug 2016 #3
Jill Stein is every bit as opportunistic as Trump.. As a physician, her kowtowing to anti-vac crowd hlthe2b Aug 2016 #4
FWIW, McClatchy: Clinton 45/Trump 31/Johnson 10/Stein 6 emulatorloo Aug 2016 #6
Agreed. A dead gorilla is out-polling her. VP Baraka choice? Very bad idea for garnering support emulatorloo Aug 2016 #5
I agree on both counts. I don't see Jill Stein or Gary Johnson winning any states. Of course GOTV still_one Aug 2016 #7
I've had a few Bernie die hard friends flirt with voting for her. Adrahil Aug 2016 #8
I think Johnson could very well (most probably) make it into the debates cali Aug 2016 #11
Yes, I generally agree with that. NT Adrahil Aug 2016 #12
I do think he would help Trump in the debates a great deal though. bettyellen Aug 2016 #16
Why? I tend to think the very opposite would be true. cali Aug 2016 #17
Because it will be two people making bullshit sound normal and okay bettyellen Aug 2016 #18
Thanks Cali Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #9
I think the libertarian message speaks to some disaffected young Bernie voters MadBadger Aug 2016 #10
relevant to republicans. they'll support her to try to gain even a couple percent of clinton votes. Sunlei Aug 2016 #13
On the third-party front, this is good news for us. backscatter712 Aug 2016 #14
I don't get the obsession with someone who isn't relevant in any state. cali Aug 2016 #15
It's because there are JPRs here pushing this be kind to Stein meme... bettyellen Aug 2016 #19

hlthe2b

(102,283 posts)
4. Jill Stein is every bit as opportunistic as Trump.. As a physician, her kowtowing to anti-vac crowd
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:56 AM
Aug 2016

is about as despicable as I can imagine.

I do have some concerns re: Gary Johnson pulling a few less discerning lib/progressives--those who might be bamboozled by his attacks on Trump and think he represents the "liberal" side of libertarianism.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
6. FWIW, McClatchy: Clinton 45/Trump 31/Johnson 10/Stein 6
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:05 AM
Aug 2016

"In a four way race, Clinton retains her lead. She gets 45 percent to Trump’s 31 percent. Libertarian Gary Johnson has 10 percent and the Green Party’s Jill Stein has 6 percent."

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article93763582.html#storylink=cpy

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
5. Agreed. A dead gorilla is out-polling her. VP Baraka choice? Very bad idea for garnering support
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 09:57 AM
Aug 2016

for disaffected Sanders voters, as Baraka despises Bernie and Bernie supporters. Yet more Poor judgement on Stein's part.

Irrelevant in this election.

still_one

(92,209 posts)
7. I agree on both counts. I don't see Jill Stein or Gary Johnson winning any states. Of course GOTV
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

is critical, and the Democratic party must be campaigning as though they are behind

The election is still a long way off, and a lot of things can happen


 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
8. I've had a few Bernie die hard friends flirt with voting for her.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:09 AM
Aug 2016

ALL of them rejected her after actually looking in to her and her running mate. She will not be a significant factor.

Johnson COULD be.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
11. I think Johnson could very well (most probably) make it into the debates
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:48 AM
Aug 2016

but don't you believe he'd take more votes from trump than Hillary?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. Because it will be two people making bullshit sound normal and okay
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

And who will reinforce each other's attacks on Hillary. I think in a one on one Trump will sound like an idiot, because he will have no one to ape.
I don't think Johnson will bother going against Trump but will go for Hillary - just to get more press.

MadBadger

(24,089 posts)
10. I think the libertarian message speaks to some disaffected young Bernie voters
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 10:15 AM
Aug 2016

I also think those kinds of people haven't looked too deeply at what Gary Johnson actually stands for. All of it.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
13. relevant to republicans. they'll support her to try to gain even a couple percent of clinton votes.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:17 AM
Aug 2016

by support I mean run media stories, random donations so she can 'keep on trucking', and make sure stories about her are posted on aggregate news sites and add comments.

If they can grow that 6% to even 8 or 9, that's less for Clinton.

These are the same radical RW who 'backed' bundy and are extremely anti-federal government. People seem to have forgotten the Federal Government is the peoples Gov. Without the FDA we have no protections at all. Without Federal DOI, our PUBLIC lands will be gone forever to state interests.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
14. On the third-party front, this is good news for us.
Fri Aug 5, 2016, 11:35 AM
Aug 2016

On the left, there are the Bernie-or-Busters, and on the right, there are the Never-Trumpers.

The Bernie-or-Busters could vote for Jill Stein, or for Gary Johnson, depending on the individual.

But the Never-Trumpers are far more likely to vote for Gary Johnson - I don't see many right-wing third-party-voters voting for Jill Stein.

So the poll numbers indicate that there are FAR more Never-Trumpers than Bernie-or-Busters. Hell, Bernie himself was never a Bernie-or-Buster.

Like I said, that's good news for us.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. It's because there are JPRs here pushing this be kind to Stein meme...
Mon Aug 8, 2016, 01:09 PM
Aug 2016

Which is ridiculous. Most of this is a reaction to them. But she is running sine shittt up ads too.

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