PANTS ON FIRE--> FOR LIAR TRUMP!: Hillary will NOT raise taxes on middle class as Trump claims!!!

[riversedge]

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Donald Trump wrongly says Hillary Clinton wants to raise taxes on the middle class

By Linda Qiu on Friday, August 5th, 2016 at 12:34 p.m.




Did this Donald J. Trump ad misrepresent what Hillary Clinton actually said about raising taxes?

Hillary Clinton just admitted to a big tax hike, at least according to Donald Trump.

The Trump campaign sent an email blast to supporters embedded with a video of a Clinton event in Omaha, Neb., entitled, "Hillary Clinton says she wants to ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’"

The subtitles of Clinton’s speech read: "Trump wants to cuts taxes for the super rich. Well, we’re not going there, my friends. I’m telling you right now, we’re going to write fairer rules for the middle class and we are going to raise taxes on the middle class."

"Wait what?" the videos continues, before playing the damning sentence in slow motion: "We are going to raise taxes on the middle class.".............





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Clinton’s tax plan, by the way, does not change the tax rates for the middle class and instead targets the wealthy through small reforms.

Our ruling

The Trump campaign said, "Hillary Clinton says she wants to, ‘raise taxes on the middle class.’ "

According to the transcript, numerous reporters, experts and a computer program, Clinton said the exact opposite.

We rate this statement Pants on Fire!

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

1. Has she gotten out in front of this? I was in the gym last night, and Faux News was on. CNN was on

another channel. No MSNBC.

The ad played four times while I was there. HRC needs to get out and combat this lie.

[underpants]

2. This is all they rage in RW world

Anything ANYTHING to shift the focus from Trump Right now.

I saw it on FB last night and had Fox's early C-league news babe tryout show on before my run this morning.

As my wife pointed out, by highlighting what everyone knows is not what she meant they are drilling her promise (and sound economic policy) NOT to raise taxes on the middle class into everyone's head.

[unitedwethrive]

6. You'd think that even repugs would be smart enough to know

that candidates never say they're going to raise taxes on the middle class. That statement alone should be a red flag, unless they just don't want to listen to logic.

[Hoyt]

3. Trumpsters will say anything. Just for kicks I looked at Facebook and here's the very first headlin

Man Found Dead After Serving DNC With Papers Over Rigged Elections

It comes from some conservative website that people I knew 50 years ago read and believe. You can argue, print fact check stuff or Snopes, and they will just come back and say Snopes is owned by George Soros, etc.

Similarly, just the other day one of the stories was that a database operative for the DNC was shot a killed before being called to testify on email issue. Of course, it turns out he was shot in an apparent robbery a week AFTER the FBI closed out their case on Clinton, and the guy had a very minor roll in any of that. But, the flat-earth, white wingers don't want to hear that.

I would defriend them, but damn it's hard not telling them they are just ignorant, racists that haven't progressed since the early 1960s.

[underpants]

7. LOL you seem to have the same FB experience as me

My post above was about a FB post from young cons.com - one of those wannabe sites that I see posted all the time. Allen West and ijreview etc.

Your mentioning the Snopes Soros thing cracked me up. I've had full discussions about Snopes and its veracity. Apparently in RW world this Soros conspiracy theory is dogma.

[Hoyt]

8. Yep, I get the crud from Allen West, Cain, Brietbart, patriot sites, and worse. I really should

walk away, but I can't.

If I decide to go to my 50th class reunion next year, at a minimum I will be yelled at and called all kinds on names, and I may have to slug it out. It's that bad.

[underpants]

10. Ooh just got this one - Snopes SNOPED!!

I'm sure you'll see it soon



"Conservativetribune - Federalist Paper Project - WSJ





My response:

...and now attempting a triple twist with a backflip...

WHAT is this and WHO is doing it?
Conservative tribune is one of the choir of clickbait fake news sites made for FB posts and revenue generation (see great explanation link below) who reference another such site - Federalist Paper Project - that was apparently cited by the Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal. I say "apparently" because you have to subscribe to the WSJ to see if it actually was. Let's assume it was in the WSJ news article (not the horrifically RW Op-Ed page).

The source that this thread of self-promoting references is an Iranian military official (again lets just assume that that is real). Are the Iranians considered the harbingers of truth by conservatives? In using this source did the authors ever consider that in a closed society and controlled media like Iran that they issue statements only for propaganda and internal consumption? Imagine using North Korean media as a source.

The facts on this don't matter. They are just sure that they have themselves a winner so these GOTCHA articles are created to be spread via FB posts. It's a desperate attempt to keep their nonsense alive. Trump's "secret video" ...er uh.... not secret ....actually not a real thing at all blows this story out of the water other than in RW world. Connecting these two events by time is a fallacy and it flies directly in the face of what we know - this was announced in January well before the hostages were released, it was a gesture of good faith in the nuclear negotiations, we owed them $400M and it was highly likely that they could have received a total settlement of $10BILLION but the Obama administration negotiated a $1.7B settlement THEY SAVED US MONEY.

http://dailyurbanista.com/2014/12/26/sharing-fake-news-facebook/

[Hoyt]

11. Got the same one. Yours doesn't come from a fundie named Ann H or Paul B does it? I swear, the all

sound alike -- ignorant.

You are patient in your response. I usually just end up saying they are "ignorant, white wing, flat-earthers who never check sources," or some such.

It is funny.

[underpants]

12. No, a guy I served in the Army with

He and two other guys I knew in the Army were the ones who had the Soros Snopes story memorized.

They think that Snopes just offers its opinions from on high. I had to point out the extensive links/references provided by Snopes on each piece.

Allen West has to be my favorite - he's a mental cardboard cutout.

[gohuskies]

4. No deceitful lies are off-limits to thsee zealots

This is about as low as these right-wing cretins will go to smear and steal elections. They have lowered the bar of decency so low that they stoop to naked lies that only the lowest iq voters could buy without thought. Truly sick..

[mrsv]

5. Andrea Mitchell

Addressed this today...She shows the ad and Hillary at the campaign... then explains how Hillary said aren't..Mitchell says this is the same stump speech Hillary has used throughout the campaign..She then asks a reporter..why did the Trump campaign do it..I stopped recording after that knowing the answer to the question...They are assholes and Trump's polls look like hell...I posted it to my to my fb page...one less thing about Trump I need to respond to...my husband responding with the clip too.

[mcar]

9. K&R