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MuttLikeMe

(279 posts)
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:06 PM Aug 2016

Trump isn't cooked yet: Clinton lead dips in latest polling

http://thedailybanter.com/2016/08/trump-isnt-cooked-yet/

So, according to Nate Silver, Trump is just under five points behind. Five points. That's horrifying. And yes, I understand that the state polls are more important. The national polls, however, provide a convenient overview into how well the candidates are being perceived by voters. Nate's analysis:

That’s not bad for Clinton, but it might seem to suggest that her lead over Trump has abated. A week or so ago, we were seeing leads for Clinton in the mid- to high single digits, with occasional forays into the double digits. Overall, she seemed to be ahead by 7 to 8 percentage points.


Bottom line: the race is tightening. We don't know how tight it'll become, of course, but the lesson here remains: Don't get happy.
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RandySF

(58,869 posts)
1. Ebb and flow.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:10 PM
Aug 2016

It's a natural part of an election. Study it close enough and you can predict its direction. I remember, in 2000, that Bush would gain ground as you got closer to the weekend, with Gore rebounding after the weekend. People as a group sway back and forth over a period of time.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
14. Randy, did you see my post to you in the thread where we are asked to make predictions for
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:58 AM
Aug 2016

Election Day?

I told you that 270towin allows you to split up the electoral votes from Nebraska and Maine.

Since you gave HRC Kansas I am thinking that you might also want to give her one electoral vote from Nebraska.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
2. These polls show Hillary INCREASING her lead
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:17 PM
Aug 2016

Follow the link. This subset of polls is a Trump leaning batch. Compared to last week these polls show Hillary INCREASING her lead. This post at 538 is GOOD news for Hillary. Go to 538 and read what they say.

writes3000

(4,734 posts)
3. I'm pretty damn happy. I'm an adult so I know the election isn't over.
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:18 PM
Aug 2016

I know how to interpret information and see the state of the race for what it is. If staying in a stay of concern makes you work harder, please tear your hair out. Tear it all out.

Me? I'm going to stay positive, donate and spread the word. And I'm happy as hell.

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
5. Trump has not improved this post is incorrext
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:21 PM
Aug 2016

See 538 ... ! She's holding steady In fact NBC poll today has her 9 ahead ! Survey monkey

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
6. She is ahead and it is worse for him in the state polls
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:21 PM
Aug 2016

Hopefully it will be a blowout...and we take the House and the Senate.

MFM008

(19,814 posts)
8. Who the hell was happy?
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 10:57 PM
Aug 2016

Last edited Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:33 PM - Edit history (1)

When at LEAST half Americans are morons.
Anyone?

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
11. A lot of the tightening today is due to the inclusion of the low-rated
Tue Aug 16, 2016, 11:11 PM
Aug 2016

Zogby polls. They seem to be outliers, but 538 includes all polls regardless, although they will be weighted less.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
13. The article the author references on 538 says no such thing
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 12:33 AM
Aug 2016

Here are the two paragraphs directly following his chosen excerpt:

So what’s changed? Is Clinton’s convention bounce finally wearing off? Actually, pretty much nothing has changed, according to these polls. Because while we were seeing our fair share of 8- and 10-point leads for Clinton, we generally weren’t seeing them from this group of pollsters, which are (with a couple of exceptions) a Trump-leaning bunch.

Instead, these polls have been steady, at least on average. The table below compares each poll’s most recent result to its previous edition,2 as well as to each poll’s long-term average (that is, to the average of every previous edition of the survey going back to November 2015). On average, the most recent edition of these surveys shows Clinton up by 4.8 percentage points. But the previous editions showed her up by an average of 4.5 percentage points, so there’s been essentially no change.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/election-update-clintons-lead-is-clear-and-steady/

The race has not tightened to 5 points.

Demsrule86

(68,578 posts)
15. Either a careless mistake or he wants a horese race for ratings. nt
Wed Aug 17, 2016, 07:18 AM
Aug 2016

You can't trust any media these days.

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