This new crop of gutter fighters Trump has hired makes me dread the next weeks.

[nolabear]

They have no expertise in policy, in protocol, in representing the needs of any segment of this country (including the poor bastards he's conning), they are simply very, very good at bullying and lying and steamrolling bad information. I fear it's going to be pure bloodsport on their side, and though I have no qualms about Hillary's capabilities or intentions, I hope the Democratic Party is, this very minute, putting together a band of active, damn-near-impossible-to-attack surrogates that can make anything they throw look very, very sleazy.

I suspect we are going to get some massive cases of vertigo trying to stitch together anything that makes sense out of these two worlds.

That said, the debates will be AMAZING. If he's going to ground in this particular swamp he's going to get killed.

[Dawson Leery]

1. May the GOP go down like Hitler in the bunker.

[Wellstone ruled]

2. This is going to get nasty at best.

We Dems are going to hear lie after lie,and then there will be more lies.. Understand a personal friend of the Con Man Don is responsible for this new crop of the Stupid, Mercer?

[Hortensis]

15. Nasty can work for us. And the Mercers sound as nasty

as they come. With the world at their feet they associate with Bannon and the hard-core hatemongerer Breitbart has become? There has to be some real dysfunction there, and it may be promising that they are keeping decision-making over how their money is spent in their hands.

As for working for us, make lemonade? My notion is that shock value creates interest and, if shocking enough (as opposed to being just disgusting and repellent), should help GOTV.

Using this to present voters with clear and unmistakably profoundly different choices should also help those who don't read much decide what side they're on without having to look beyond campaign ads and whatever news comes between the daily murder and weather reports.

At least I hope, because you're obviously right. Extremely nasty from one side is a given.

[Wellstone ruled]

16. What might be their game plan,

is it to contaminate the airwaves with garbage and hate,making the undecided stay home from the voting booth. Or are we going to see a 1930 Hate Campaign to incite the Militant Groups to do their Bullying for them. Thinking the later,with people getting hurt. We are dealing with the worst of the worst when it comes to Hate Messaging.

[Hortensis]

17. Yes. I'm afraid of that too. A pox on both your houses

from people who've been deliberately too confused to tell one from the other. That's where I hope the craziness will be just too profound for them to misunderstand. Like suggesting he'd murder the children of terrorists, that use of nuclear weapons on Europe might be a good idea, and literally dozens of others.

I got a little happy bump a while ago from a Monmouth poll. Florida voters, asked who they'd want to deal with terrorism, chose the female Democrat over the male Republican 48-45%! It's only one poll, but of course without Trump the results would have been very, very different.

[Wellstone ruled]

18. Again,we are for the most part,

dealing with the 22-41% of our population. That in it's self is off the scale of possibles. Do remember how people reacted during the McCarthyism Era. Watch and heard very well Educated folks and Community Leaders go all Hate filled. And until McCarthy was finally called to task,then and only then did the Hate stop .

Watched Trump accelerate his hate message,and as of a few minutes ago,he hired the same P.R.firm that sold Brexit to the Brits. Murdoch-Ailes-Mercer-Johnson-and the dude from Britian's largest Hedge Fund. Been waiting for this one,and away we go. Remember Thacher,same verbiage,and we know how that worked out.

[Hortensis]

19. Oh, god, for the last. Here in the deep south

I'm sure it's significantly more than 22-41%, though hard to tell just how much because some stay quiet in these discussions. So many people lovely with friends and family within their "circle" are anything but toward those outside. I read about demonization creating hate and how those prone have been encouraged in extreme, pschopathic behaviors toward outsiders in this era. And psychopathic was the word carefully used by the social scientist to describe the traits. I believe most under the wrong leadership would be capable, ultimately, of far worse than McCarthyism, and, yes, right now they're not appalled by the current whiffs but encouraged.

My best guess is still that with all the Trump campaign can do they'll never pass by enough to matter that 40% that was once believed to be the least support a GOP candidate would get.

W's support finally dropped into the low teens toward the end. Even people who'd said they viewed positively everything he'd done found what they finally recognized as failure inexcusable. There's a lesson in that for this election.

[Wellstone ruled]

21. The closest bigots,

good grief,matriculated from the upper Midwest. Active in Dem politics,saw first hand those whom you mention. Our mediate family is very large,and,yes we had more of these types than one would want to mention.

And this explains Scott Walker,Jesse Ventura,and Tim Plewenty and can not forget Michele Bucknman.

[nolabear]

3. Ron Reagan Jr. may be the angriest I've ever seen anyone taking on Trump's surrogates.

Just on msnbc, TROMPING Boris.

He's mad and he's willing to go there. And he's got that "my father got shot while in office so don't tell me what Trump has sacrificed" cred.

[Kablooie]

4. But Ailes is a master at image turnaround.

I fear that Ailes could actually make a difference.
He managed Bush senior who had a nothing image at the beginning of the campaign.

Hopefully he won't have time to do much but I wouldn't be surprised if some voter minds are swayed back to Trump in the coming weeks.

[tinrobot]

20. Much easier to elevate someone from nothing than from high negatives.

Bush senior's "nothing" image wasn't particularly negative, it was just "meh". Ailes had a year to turn that around.

That pales in comparison to the extremely high negatives that the Orange Menace has stockpiled and the limited time left. Ailes certainly has his work cut out for him.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

5. Superb insights.

And, it will last until he drops out.

[randr]

6. Remember the lower they go

the higher we fly.

[DemonGoddess]

7. ^^^This!!!

[nolabear]

8. As long as we leave nothing to chance. Because they're malignant.

[TheBlackAdder]

9. Nah! It's just the secondary stage of syphilis, before they all start losing their minds, entirely.

.


This is where all the open sores start to manifest on all body cavities and unsightly skin rashes appear.

There will probably be a very short or non-existent latency stage, before jumping right into the late stages.


Granted, they already have numbness, blindness and dementia, so it will be difficult to see this stage appear.


.

[oberliner]

10. They are going to try to make it all about Hillary

"Clinton Cash" will be this cycle's "Swift Boat Vets" book.

[Native]

11. I felt better after listening to Mook on Rachel tonight. The campaign has responded to the Trump

allegations about Hillary's "failing" health, and Mook said they will continue to do that - basically looking at each piece of sleazy shit Trump's group tries to sling at Hill and then deciding if it merits a direct response. Rachel led the interview with a clip about Kerry's swiftboating and how his campaign made the mistake of assuming the attack wouldn't stick and didn't need to hit back. I got the distinct impression that Mook won't let their campaign come anywhere close to making that mistake.

[nolabear]

12. Me too. The difference between hearing the crazy Trump crowd and the grownups is amazing.

I just have to have some faith in enough of the rest of the country having the same response.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. Nobody was meaner and more monstrous than the NAZIS and we kicked their asses.

We had their leader cowering in a freaking bunker before him and his girlfriend killed themselves.

[SticksnStones]

14. There's always the mute button

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